katie butler, who was jeffrey butler? >> every but there was my father and you are holding a picture of him and me in a loving position. he was of world war ii veteran who lost his arm in the war and an amazing that's. he built cases for our living room with only one arm which was amazing and he was a professor of history. >> where did he teach? >> berkeley university in connecticut and lived a long, full, happy life. >> over the past couple years of his life? >> when he was 79 he had devastating stroke. he didn't die until he was a 85 at a time when his death would be a mercy and publishing. he was given a peacemaker year after this devastating stroke and the result was his heart kept going and he descended into dementia and blindness and misery and said to my mother i am living too long. the last five years of his life were frankly terrible. >> when the pacemaker was put in at age 80 what was the family's thought? >> it was the combination of ignorance and denial. there was no real conversation with the doctor about whe

>> host: katy butler when you talk to them about this book what is their reaction? >> guest: there are whole range of options from you did the right thing to saying i don't understand. either i don't understand how medicine works but the other one is you don't understand how afraid we are that a family is going to see less for wrongful death and we don't know our patients. people coming to the emergency room, we have never seen them before. we don't know fits the katy butler family with the dnr and a clear living will or someone who is going to say my father is 95 but i have never discussed the end of his life with him and i want you it to keep him alive no matter what. so i think i came to understand as i wrote the book what a difficult position that they are in. there is actually a phrase in the hospital called the nephew from peoria and this is the relative who flies in who has been not involved at all with the family care and now says everything needs to be done to perv on -- prolong the life. even family members who are dying and have a living will be sick clea

. >> host: the katy butler what did your parents, what did the end of life care cost? >> guest: the very interesting question and neither had highly expensive deaths may be $80,000 with my father with a pacemaker or that kind of stuff. my mother very close to the end of her life refused to open heart surgery then she had a heart attack and the doctors said let's do open-heart surgery. she was 84 at that point. if we had done that surgery would have cost to declare about $86,000 though maybe it was 10 or 20,000 because she was a hospice in declined most extraordinary intervention is a we got a lot of social work, the healing, reassurance that we did not get high-tech expensive you title painful interventions. >> host: to people to use of of this possible? >> guest: yes. >> host: why? >> guest: one is that we just have to allow everyone there choice and their range as they approach their own death. the other reason is we have a terror and ignorance of death up intel 1900 people died randomly throughout the life span and they read books like the art of dying and considere

. >> host: this is a preview of katy butler's new books "knocking on heaven's door" the path to a better way of death. you are watching booktv on c-span2. former pentecostal preacher turned atheist jerry dewitt recalls his loss of faith in the subsequent termination of his relationship with his wife friend and parishioners into ridder louisiana. this is about an hour. >> it's a pleasure to be with you and i can't give a high enough or strong enough appreciation for the great turnout. thank you. you have been with me from the very beginning. you have shown me great kindness and i'll wouldn't have talked about it much longer for me to tear up so thank you. every day i am amazed, amazed at how many things that were lost and it seems like truly everyday people like yourselves are stepping up to replace all of those little lost trinkets throughout my life that i have collect did so thank you for that. so give yourselves a round of applause for that please. [applause] so i'm going to try to read rather quickly. you have your bibles with you. [laughter] i don't know if i have read in public wit

. >> this is a preview of katy butler's new book "knocking on heaven's door: the path to the better way of death" 11. you are watching tv on c-span2. >> next on booktv and discussion on african-american history and the twenty-first century. from the 2013 harlem will carry an annual book fair in new york city. [applause] >> good afternoon, everyone. my pleasure to welcome to our third panel of the day, the title is "50 years later: blacks and the 21st century". the panel is framed around what kind of progress blacks have made since the civil rights movement. and the enduring challenges african-americans face in the twenty-first century. a formulated two major questions for us. the first is what historical and contemporary factors continue to make racial equality a contested and elusive concept in the twenty-first century. and what kinds of knowledge base specific challenges of racial inequity in our contemporary moment. i am thrilled to be able to be in conversation with two and possibly three dynamic speakers and dynamic thinkers today. i would like to introduce them. joining us is sara

katy, thanks so much. >> reporter: i could be her butler. >> yes. again, you'll be making fast friends there. waiting for the ocean 16 to show up. we'll see their faces shortly. katy, we'll be back to you. >>> another developing story from new jersey. just six hours left on voting to fill new jersey's open senate seat. while polls show that the newark mayor cory booker could win that today, he's now facing questions about his personal finances. >>> and florida officials say the worst is over when it comes to that massive sink hole near disney as we hear more from the people inside the building when the ground literally opened up beneath them. look at that. >> things flying, glass flying, people jumping out of windows. >> as always, join our conversation on twitter. you can find us @newsnation. hey america, even though she doesn't need them, cheryl burke is cha-cha-ing in depend silhouette briefs for charity, to prove that with soft fabric and waistband, the best protection looks, fits, and feels just like underwear. get a free sample and try for yourself. using night-vision goggles to keep an

butler "coming up in a minute.  >> have you heard about this, sarah? >> no. >> lady gaga and perez used to be friends. now they are locked in a twitter fight. it started when katy folks listen to perez hilton. things turned up with gaga accused him that he was looking to move into her apartment building. i am surprised. perez hilton said he started receiving death threats from gaga fans. "little monsters" is what they are calling. the stocking communications are not true. >> can you not just say i don't like the song? >> if she felt like they were friends she was being, you know. >> no more pictures like this one, which might be okay. >> kind of strange. >> no politics at the white house. >> lee daniels, "the butler" hooked up the competition in opening weekend. new bio pic picked up top spot second "we are the millers" and third over 13 million. "the butler" doing well. have you seen it? >> not yet. did you? >> i did not. doing other stuff over the weekend. i think it is great. it is something i will go see. >> i will, not with all my closest friends. speaking of going to the movie theatre. local theatre is the target of social media backlash after movie goer