the lowest bid, but it is a case of cheap bid, cheap qualitiment and when it was re-bid, because kawasaki one of the quality people who had experience in this sued, two years later hyundai wins again, using as a lobbiest then governor ed rendell's former law firm, the philly inquirer reported believe it or not, hyundai wrote them, the same people who made these wrong cars, these cracked cars next set to contract to build their first double decker rail cars. here comes rendell, urging septa to go with hyundai, again, believe it or not, do you believe that? >> so denver has these cars, too, did you hear about that, steve? >> reporter: yes, you know what, mike, los angeles had these cars, and they have 57 baz once, and won't try to fix them. they lost an engineer's light because one derailed, one good thing septa did hear, getting these off the tracks. >> settle down. >> la said no way. >> yes, i know, why would you even think of considering this company for double decker cars? >> yes, double deckers. >> double decker, double decker. all right, 65:00, more on, that we'll take you there live