here to discuss is kay bailey hutchison, america's ambassador to nato and a former u.s. from texas. >>> ambassador kay bailey hutchison, thank you for joining us. >> thank you so much, christiane, it's great to be with you. >> well, you have seen a lot of u.s. politics, u.s. diplomacy. you spent your whole life in this role really. what do you make of president trump? is he coming again with cuts to aim at his allies? >> i think he's coming to be plain spoken as he always has been. but i think now that the alliance is understanding better suring that everyone is hich is contributing and burden sharing, but also strengthening our new nato command structure, making sure that we are doing counterterrorism, which is something that most of our countries have experienced unfortunately, and he wanted to be a priority. so, i think we are strengthening the alliance and i think that is the message that he will bring. >> so, i wonder, then, how you respond to the european commission president. this is donald tusks' message to donald trump today. first of all, dear america, appreciat

kay bailey hutchison who is the u.s. ambassador to nato seems to think so she says there will be a commitment to nato from the u.s. to article five specifically here so collective defense that was also the case at the last gathering here in brussels last year but when trump was here he was reluctant to give it showed up later in the documents in the official documents and it seems to be there right now but the problem is with the u.s. president you never know what he's then actually going to say what he's actually going to do once he arrives here even his own people and they don't don't really seem to know so we might be in for a surprise and that's of course something that's destabilizing other nato allies because they're questioning what will the united states of america really do if there is trouble will the united states stand by its partners or not could be a tumultuous two days there and from brussels bureau chief reporting from nato headquarters thank you very much. to the homestretch of soccer's world cup now fra

and andy is right, i think you should go back to the clip of ambassador kay bailey hutchison a couple of days ago saying putin can smell weakness. and the most important thing we can project right now is unity. and, you know, let's do the arguing about the dues and the payment in, that's relevant, but it shouldn't overshadow the importance of unity, because, you know, the baltic states are right on the front line. and the last thing we want to do is to invite aggression, because then how do we respond? but andrea, i want back this morning and found a letter that donald trump put on all the major newspapers in the country in 1987, and it could have been written yesterday, because it's a really strong objection to america paying defense -- he was talking about japan and saudi arabia, but it could have as easily been about germany, france and great britain. this is something that's been under his skin for 30 years and he's still stating it. the problem is i think he's missing the major point which is the unity of nato is what's kept the peace in europe now for 70 years, and threatening t

ambassador to nato, kay bailey hutchison. madam ambassador, let mee sk you about eting the nato meeting this week president trump will be there in brief.go what's the u.s for this meeting? >> the u.s. al is the strength and unity of this liance and so much of what we have done this year is to affirm ts alliance and strengthen it. we are looking at a very strong capability of what we call the four 30s and that is 30 battalions 30 air squadrons 30 ships in 30 days meaning that we could respond to any crisis in any of our 29 countries. with that kind of a force it is a deterrent to any adversary and that is something that we willod e a new command structure that gets there. it's a goal that is worthy and i think that we're going to show an alliance strength and most certainly unity. >> woodruff: president trump has repeatedly criticized the nato allies for not paying their fair share of the defense ope. just today he's tweeting more about it. p and at ont he tweeted that the u.s. is paying 90% of theng cost of supporato is that

ambassador to nato, former texas senator kay bailey hutchison. welcome to the program.f a threat is russia to the military alliance? >> well, thank you, margaret, very much. we're seeing russia with maligned activities on so many fronts right now, especially the hybrid area where they are through social media sowing discontent and even false information to try to divide our allies and take them away from the west and toward some dissidents and then hopefully they think influenced by them. they are also doing things like the terrible attack, the nerve agent attack in great britain. they're supporting a syrian dictator who is using chemical weapons on his own people to kill even children. and it's just on and on and on. they are also in violation of the very important inf treaty with the united states. they are not supposed to be building ballistic missiles at an intermediate range, but they are. and we know they are. so there are so many areas where they are workingains interests of freedom and democracies and peace in the world, and it is a big... it's a big part of our

ambassador to nato, kay bailey hutchison.isten to what president trump said about nato on thursday. >> i'm going to tell nato you've got to start paying your bills. the united states is not going to take care of everything. and we are paying for the whole thing. >> "the washington post" reported trump for his part frequently tells european leaders how much he dislikes the e.u. and how it is worse than china. ambassador, what do you make of those comments, and is it possible for the president to convey a sense of cooperation? because there has been significant progress that nato has made. >> ambassador hutchison: nato really is making progress and they are doing it really at president trump's insistence and i think that it's very clear, and he's been very direct about the europeans needing to do more for their own security. i've worked for probably three presidents, all of whom have said the same thing. now i think for the first time we are releasing the europeans actually start going in the right direction. every ally is now

and ian, former texas senator kay bailey hutchison is the current u.s. ambassador to nato. and we took note today that while in brussels, reporters were pressing her on the president's comments, asking her why would a meeting with president putin be easier man meeting with u.s. allies? >> reporter: yeah, a great question, david, but in actual fact, there was pretty much not much of an answer. she didn't say anything other than the president has a message to give, and he's going to deliver it. meanwhile, the head of the european counsel doubling down on his criticism of president trump, saying when he meets vladimir putin, he needs to know the difference between a strategic friend and a strategic problem. david? >> ian pannell. ian, our thanks to you. >>> and back here at home, the trump administration facing that deadline to reunite children under 5 who had been separated from their parents. well tonight, faces of some of the children today seeing their parents, many children under 5 still are waiting to be reunited. they're in the government's custody. and we ask tonight,

ambassador to nato kay bailey hutchison and she said he's frustrated because germany could do so much more because of course they're the economic heavyweight in the european union and they're one of the nations that's farthest away of meeting that two percent goal the americans want them to do more that's out of the question that's not new administration's before the trump administration saw it just the same way but you're right there seems to be a little something more we talk to diplomats behind closed doors you know is there any animosity does he not like i'm going to that is there what's wrong and nobody wanted to confirm that but what we can say for sure is that they have a very different approach to things going to back to this very procedural. trump is more emotional he's not a fan of multilateral institutions to say the least she is she is a symbol now for you know the multilateral framework of many institutions starting at the world trade organization and all the way up to nato so i think we have a difference of procedures we have a difference of character of personality. may

at least that is according to america's ambassador to nato kay bailey hutchison that says the presidentmoving the needle since the colder war. >> nato is making progress and they ra really doing it as president trump's insistence and i think it's very clear and he's been very direct about the europeans needing to do more for their own security. i've worked for probably with three presidents, all of whom have said the same thing. now, i think, for the first time we are really seeing the europeans actually start going in the right direction, every ally is now increasing defense spending, we've had the largest increase in defense spending since the cold war and in the year and a half that president trump has been in office it has doubled since 2014, so i think he is making an impact. >> well, 14 countries including the united states have increased nato defense spending since 2016. secretary of state mike pompeo is heading to abu dabi this after weekend stocks in vietnam, japan, north korea where he's been pushing on path to denuclearization. pompeo unfortunatelying the rogue nation to foll

kay bailey hutchison on "fox news sunday" said that the president has made an impact on nato. >> every ally is increasing defense spending. because the largest increase since the cold war. in the year and a half their president trump has been in office, it has doubled since 2014. wrapped up with a summit with russian president vladimir putin in house thinking on july 16th . trump administration taken aside that obamacare freezing billions of dollars to insurers. >> tracey, good morning. they may have to raise rates for 29 team if they don't get the risksharing payments they're expecting from the federal government. the drug administration to spend billions of dollars in payments following a february decision by a federal judge in new mexico. while the part of the program implementation is flawed hadn't been adequately justified by the federal regulators. cheryl: we've been talking about a public offering forever. finally it's here. >> wireless speaker company whose products gearing up for its ipo in early august under the nasdaq -- on the nasdaq. public filings with the sec showed it w

kay bailey hutchison talking about the president's view of the foreign policies. take a listen and get your reaction. >> he's been very direct about the europeans needed to do more for their own security. every ally is not increasing defense spending ended the year in a house that president trump has been in office, it has doubled since 24 at team. so i think he is making an impact. >> thought. >> went in to take the president seriously when he talks about foreign policy. we didn't take him seriously with the paris a quarter when he said i'm going to talk to north korea and engage in talks to really better america policy. leland: i'm glad you brought up the issue of north korea. the president's rhetoric a couple days ago was so tough about nato. so tough about canada after the g7, yet we hear now they are working on its nuclear program and the missile program. they just said some very, very tough things during secretary pompeo's visit calling it regrettable, yet we haven't heard anything from the president in the past couple days about that. why do you think it is

good to much of the president's base but it's what his top advisers hoped he wouldn't do and kay bailey hutchisonambassador to nato along if jon huntsman, our ambassador moscow both hoped he would -- this summit would produce a statement of unity and strength and that we how would come in understanding and being sympathetic as he pushed some of his points on private but he would not openly attack nato leaders such as angela merkel who after all has been the strongest leader in europe for several years now and help cod keep europe together. on the other hand, this is exactly what vladimir putin would hope he would do. putin's largest aim is to dismantle nato and dismantle european unity. >> but he knows that, david. why play into putin's hands days before you go there? >> that's one of the great mysteries that surrounds this administration from the start. the germany too dependent upon russian gas and oil? yes. everybody agrees on that. everybody agrees that he's right that they ought to increase defense spending but in those countries but those have been relatively secondary issues in past nato s

as kay bailey hutchison said, changes are being made.said putin's track record shows he can't be trusted. take a look at what ambassador hutchison said considering russia and how close they're getting to turkey. >> oh, yes. i do think russia have trying to flip turkey, many of our allies. they want to destabilize the strongest defense alliance in the history of the world. that is nato. >> dana: what is your position and heritage's position on turkey as an ally at this point? >> you know, i think that a lot of people don't give our president the credit that he deserves. they're so confused by all of the noise surrounding "the russia investigation." this president is focused like a laser beam on u.s. national interests and our security. we know that quite frankly what we've seen unfold with russia, they just cannot be trusted on this issue. i think as our president heads off and, you know, is involved in these meetings, that he's acutely aware of that and that u.s. national interests and our alliance with turkey will be front and center. w

ambassador to the un, kay bailey hutchison talking about progress, i'm not really that this is goingople expect. rob: just like the trade deal. it bugs them when other countries take advantage of the united states, irritates him to no end. like if everybody is joining country club and the united states is paying for 95% of the membership and everybody has to throw in a couple of bucks, it's a great deal for them, terrible deal for us. as you said, we are getting more countries on board. the countries expected to meet the nato spending requirement this year, of course, the united states which always had, you have greece as well, going to get up there, the uk, estonia, poland, romania, lat via and lithuania. some good news. >> i think they will spend more time talking about balloons in london -- there's a substantive agenda at the nato summit. i actually think, you know, this might be pretty good. don't forget the president is going to nato right after he does announcement about the supreme court justice and the administrations want the focus to be on this and not on the nato trip. car

in terms of nato, kay bailey hutchison said on "fox news sunday," we're seeing the biggest increase in countries willing to pay their fair share with defense spending since the cold war. the president was criticized for making those points as trying to give leverage to russia. instead, they're enboldening the nato alliance. >> marie, what risk do we run of being bold like this? the president says this is not a change in the truth. this is the fact that he's raising it now. >> there's ways to raise concerns with our allies without alienating them. bob corker said "sometimes it feels like we punch our friends in the nose and hold our hands out to those that are working against us." my point would be, if you don't like the pipeline, raise it -- >> you don't think he has? this is not a president mincing his words. >> if you have a problem, raise it privately. when he says germany is controlled by russia? the language he uses -- which matters, melissa. it matters. >> language or actions? >> the fact that donald trump says things all the time -- >> what happens when you draw red lines when y

. >> you have make pam peyo, kay bailey hutchison, and james mattis off-screen.ere a sense that the nato allies will turn to the people around trump for comfort, to see what he actually means, to see if this is just bluster or if this is something that trump is going to carry through on. >> i think they've come away with leaders like trudeau, like macron, and theresa may, coming away, knowing that what president trump says, he will follow through on. he has to be taken at face value. any threats he makes have to be taken at face value. but the discussions that go on before summits like this, between secretaries of state and foreign ministers, perhaps gives the nato allies a better sense of what the united states in total is committing to. he pointed out over the last couple of years, the united states increased its spending toward nato. by many tens of billions of dollars. they will look at those points and what stoltenburg has been saying, when he came to london recently. he said, looks this differences in nato. we disagree over iran, climate change, over trade.

they know perfectly well -- remember, kay bailey hutchison has been a long-time u.s. senator, elected by the people of texas. she understands the politics. therefore, she is trying to put the best spin on this. they're saying on one hand, yeah, this discord, this disunity, take what happened in canada -- people are terrified now about what's going to happen, the final communique here in nato. they have no expectations they told the "wall street journal" but they may be even lower than what they expected. all of that ahead of trump going to see putin in helsinki. stay strong and don't let putin drive a wedge between us, but at the same time they are saying president trump has a strategy which is to look and act tough. they are trying to thread a very difficult diplomatic needle. but i must say, it is the first time that i have ever heard a u.s. president speak so abnormally against a key european ally. to say that the germans were "captive" to russia, request "totally controlled" by russia so so against the norm, it is so unusual, that it is very hard to figure out. it

ambassador to nato kay bailey hutchison and secretary of state mike pompeo, they had no choice but to sit there and listen. the chief of staff wore his discomfort more visibly than the other two. the president also brought up his other big criticism where nato is concerned, defense spending. he proposed nato members just double their spending goals from 2% to 4% of their gdp. he added this from his phone, quote, what good is nato if germany is paying russia billions of dollars for gas and energy? why are there only 5 out of 29 countries that met their commitment? the u.s. is paying for europe's protection then loses billions on trade. must pay 2% of gdp immediately, not 2025. this comes before his summit with vladimir putin. leon panetta says he has a very fundamental concern. >> the president of the united states has to protect our country from our adversaries. i worry that this president for whatever reason is not operating with the awareness of how much an adversary russia is to the stability of the united states. >> and as they say, that gets your attention. former secretary of st

my guest will be kay bailey hutchison u.n. ambassador to nato. then i have lindsey graham on the senate judiciary committee. he will be there when the supreme court nomination is underway. and then alease hogie the president of naral. we will talk to her also about the supreme court. then i will go home to see peter and jesper. >> kimberly: tell them hello. we will be watching you on sunday. that's fantastic and tonight at 7:00 p.m. on "the story." outstanding, hello, tyrus. >> tyrus: hi. i'm excited one more thing keep that dog party going. bentley is a 12-year-old maltese while his owner lexy was away at college parents took bentley on a road trip from florida to texas. as they traveled across state line photos of bentley in front of state signs he became a twitter phenom garnished over 8,000 retweets and a thousand likes. leaving the dream. >> dana: bentley the family and the dog are coming on the story tonight. >> jesse: four plugs. >> tyrus: you are plugging away. >> kimberly: dana and i wrote back and forth about this. >> dana: tyrus is on

ambassador to nato kay bailey hutchison discussing the summit with vladimir putin this coming monday.> coming from this summit which is allied, is strong and is going to increase our deterrent capabilities, that is going to i think put president trump in a very strong position with president putin and i think he will be tough with president putin. >> do you think that president trump will be tough on putin? >> well, i do think that having a strong communique and taking the other measures that nato's called for today will help in dealing with president putin. but who knows what's going to really happen one on one in there? what will be said if president trump says, look, president putin. stop denying it. i know you interfered in the election. president putin says to him, look. you asked me to. you asked for help in the e-mails in front of the american public. and i mean, what kind of dialogue is that? and what does it mean for the future of the alliance? so i think our allied leaders may not come out and say this. they don't want to undercut the alliance. they're going to try to put th

ambassador to nato, kay bailey hutchison. >> i think the discord is music to putin's ears, but i do thinkhat coming from this summit, which is allied, is strong, and is going to increase our deterrent capabilities, that is going to put president trump in a very strong position with president putin. and i think he will be tough with president putin. >> so, hutchison there believes that president trump will be tough with putin. john, what does that look like? because in the past, he's shown no inclination to be tough on putin. >> reporter: yeah, we're going to see -- we'll see if he challenges putin on the u.s. intelligence assessment that russia meddled in the 2016 election. that's been something that he's been -- trump has been very reluctant to declare that he believes in. you know, we'll also see what they plan to do on syria. you know, a lot of officials i've talked to have expressed concern that putin is going to try to exploit areas that he can see that trump holds in his own sort of views. for instance, whether or not the united states should just get out of syria immediately. that'

nato ambassador kay bailey hutchison appearing on "fox news sunday" arguing that the president is already reshaping the alliance. >> nato really is making progress and they are doing it really at president trump's insistence, and i think that it's very clear, and he's been very direct about the europeans needing to do more for their own security. mike: for more on what to expect, we go to gillian turner in washington. reporter: president trump heads to brussels in just a couple of days, a meeting intended to bolster the transatlantic alliance and underscore the common defense interest of the 29 member countries. president trump will spend time with the leaders of america's closest european allies like france, britain and germany as well as canada and turkey. going into the meetings, the administration focusing messaging to the american people on cost sharing. >> and we go away on monday. we appoint, go away, i'll see lots of people and tell nato, you got to start paying your bills. >> every ally is now increasing defense spending. we've had the largest increase in defense spending since t

. >> scott, how do you explain the fact that kay bailey hutchison is criticizing president trump in a way? criticizing the discord. he is a main people causing the discord? >> secretary and general mattis have to deal with nato as we work through our logistical mutual defense pact. president trump is on the negotiating side because it is true the allies with the few exceptions not meeting the obligations and the secretary-general of nato today gave a speech and thanked donald trump for pushing the rest of the allies to spend more and i think what trump is doing is trying to get more money into the nato alliance while mattis and hutchison trying to keep it as cooperative as possible. >> do you think it's that simple? >> no. it's bigger world view that donald trump has and doesn't like democratic institutions so he attacks the democratic institutions in this country, whether it's the intelligence community or it's the press. and he doesn't like -- he talked about pulling out of the wto and something the united states helped to establish to help the united states. and i think that he doe

ambassador to nato, kay bailey hutchison, a former u.s. senator from texas, wasn't all this discord music to president putin's ears, who is looking for any which way to drive a wedge and to disrupt the western alliance, and she agreed that that was so. listen to what she told me yesterday. >> i think the discord is music to putin's ears, but i do think that coming from this summit, which is allied, is strong, and is going to increase our deterrent capabilities, that is going to put president trump in a very strong position with president putin, and i think he will be tough with president putin. >> so, that is what the american officials are trying to say about president trump's strategy. they call it a strategy showing strength. but mostly strength against the allies as it's being viewed right now. they hope, though, that strength translates into a meeting with president putin. but the thing they are really hoping for is that this nato summit does not descend into the debacle that the g7 summit turned into in canada, where president trump

john kelly, the body language of the president's chief of stay, kay bailey hutchison, our ambassador, mike pompeo, the secretary of state, nobody's eyes are looking across the table at nato. instead they are looking in other directions right now. eli, back to you on the ground in brussels. is there anybody in the president's inner circle -- doesn't look like it -- that can say, cut it out, or stop? >> it sure doesn't look like it. and the white house did no briefings today. they didn't make anybody else available. you just saw the exchange by trump and the leaders he had polar sides with earlier. there were no more extensive briefings or read outs on those conversations. not much coming out of the white house if it's not coming from president trump. you saw john kelly's body language. didn't look very good. you saw secretary pompeo after the day of meetings was over tweeting about the importance of nato. but those things -- those sort of tweets from staffers, from aides, from cabinet members ring awfully hollow to people out here, to europeans and nato member states when they've seen

past and this is a question of american leader shship and it w trump's own nato ambassador, kay bil bailey hutchison, that says discord in nato is music to putin's ears. >> this is the meeting of nato leaders, the nato secretary general jens stoltenberg will speak momentarily. this was the family photo. it's not just a glib name for it. they called it the family photo, the world leaders posing together supposedly in a friendly way. j this follows several hours of what has been a very controversial

past and this is a question of american leader shship and it w trump's own nato ambassador, kay bil bailey hutchison, that says discord in nato is music to putin's ears. >> this is the meeting of nato leaders, the nato secretary general jens stoltenberg will speak momentarily. this was the family photo. it's not just a glib name for it. they called it the family photo, the world leaders posing together supposedly in a friendly way. j this follows several hours of what has been a very controversial beginning. let's listen to jens stoltenberg right now. >> we are here today so future generations can enjoy that same peace and security. we owe our success to change as the world has changed and above all to the men and women of our armed forces. some have made the ultimate sacrifice. so to the thousands of our soldiers, sailors and air crew serving on operations around the world let me say, we owe you and your families a huge debt of gratitude. your embody what nato is. your skill, your professionalism, your determination. you are what makes peace and security possible. you allow us to look to the future

. >> dana: we will preview the summit in brussels and helsinki with kay bailey hutchison, u.s.

ambassador to nato kay bailey hutchison told reporters last week this has been a primary concern fore administration nor should it be for european allies that the u.s. is committed to mutual defense and we are not wavering on that whatsoever. all president trump wants his every country to be contributing their fair share. >> gabby, this is kristina partsinevelos. i want to know the pressure they are putting forth, does that have anything to do with russia in tensions with russia and the upcoming meeting. have you heard anything? >> there are a lot of working parts going into the bilateral summit with vladimir putin. obviously, the u.s. wants to ensure they are committed to nato, that they, that they're a good footing with european allies because they are expected to receive blowback would president trump meets with vladimir putin. although the u.s. officials in moscow have already said president trump intends to hold it accountable, but he will press him on election meddling in other devotees through europe that he intends to talk about the u.s. relationship and how to improve it, bu

host: over the president's right shoulder, kay bailey hutchison. the former senator from texas who is now the 22nd u.s. permanent representative to know. hank is calling from said -- from patrick. good morning. i wanted to chime in here talking about nato. pay. countries agree to to have not been doing it for years. they have been freeloading. of united states has a bunch graves in europe with americans that have sacrificed lives. to about the marshall plan rebuild europe? has europe ever offered to rebuild anything that happened in the united states and we had hurricanes or fires? say webody contribute in will help you rebuild? forget about the berliner air lift. the hundreds of lives of airmen lost, getting food to west berlin. some of these countries have been freeloading too long. it is time for them to pay up. thank you. allen is in indiana. were a nation, that has pursued life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. the best person c-span could have on some time is david at our who has looked country's founding statements to my collected it al

kay bailey hutchison and secretary of state head down through most of the session. explain how people who have devoted their entire life, like john kelly too, the p the prote this country and the alliances that have sustained since world war ii. how much of a shock this is for donald trump to be spending his time with nato allies trashing them. >> so, joe, just imagine general kelly, he has served as the military aide in succession, bob gates and leon panetta, he has gone with them to many, many nato meetings like this and watched the way the u.s. officials take care of this most important defense alliance that our country has. he arrives breakfast or no breakfast with donald trump. and donald trump just takes out and starts shooting away. using language that is inflammato inflammatory, using the most sharp and language. but to do it in that way and it's just obvious he got off that plane ready to pick a fight. why did he do that? why does he think that on his way to a summit meeting with vladimir putin trashing the nato alliance is his best bet? the only thing i ca