i'm a social ron haskins and kay brown on this panel. i'm a social anthropologist and i work on family in poverty and the institutions that serve them. today, i don't want this to be a contest, ron, i'm going to try to highlight six themes about families and illustrate them with examples representative of the data i've worked with. theme number one, before welfare eligible and both welfare eligible and welfare using populations are varied. researchers in washington state found five sub groups ranging from quick levers who left tanf within a year and did not return to stayers who continued on tanf with barely a break. and these groups have fairly different needs. second, both welfare support and the income from low wage labor leave families struggling. families cannot sustain themselves on welfare alone or on low wage work alone. and those relying on these low incomes can experience what i call a cascade effect. when a relatively small problem triggers life-changing events. one texas woman i interviewed had moved off welfare into work and

and kay brown, director of income security at the united states government accountability office. thank you all very much for taking the time to testify to senator hatch having very important and we look forward to your testimony. we encourage you to be candid, forthcoming and direct in your five, six statements statements but your prepared remarks will automatically be included in the record. why don't you begin. >> thank you, mr. chairman. members of the committee, thank you very much for inviting me. it's a great privilege to testify before this committee. i want to talk about four issues in five minutes. that makes me an issue a minute man. >> you got it. we're going to time you, too. >> what? >> i'm just teasing you. i said we're going to time you and hold you to that, too. >> okay. >> go ahead. you can say whatever you want to say. >> i get this 30 seconds back. poverty trends i'll talk about, spending on programs and major causing of poverty. issue one, the trends in poverty. i included a figure in my testimony that to me has two big surprises. one is we made virtually no p

and a particular thanks to congresswoman brown from florida. [ cheers and applause ] senator kay hz hagan from north carolina. national president of the marine association, chief officer and dr. james everhart united states marine corps. the past national president of the montford point marine association, our united states retiree. [ cheers and applause ] and joe carpenter, lieutenant colonel retired united states marine corps. [ cheers and applause ] i would like to personally thank the officers and staff of the

lane from the depressed the of michigan, kay brown director with that united states government gao. 84s very important. we a period you to be candid and forthcoming with your five minutes of statements your prepared remarks are already included. please begin. >> chairmen balk is ranking member hatch it is a privilege to testify before or the committee. of course, i have one issue her minute. >> i will talk about the major causes of poverty i included a figure in testimony that has two big surprises. we have made no progress and poverty since 1975 although we spend more money. and the poverty rate among the elderly is the highest the or for children in our society. we need to buckle down and concentrate on children. between the states and federal government we have means tested programs for crow it has increased every year. the adr we're not spending enough money, we could spend it for the some programs might be unsuccessful but spending $13,000 per person. critics mention health care but that is what congress decided so unless you change that but the nation made a great commitment to h

laura lein and kay brown. that all of you for taking the time. was going to act on something important relative to your testimony. i encourage you to be forthcoming and direct in five periods yours remarks will automatically be included in the record -- i encourage you to be forthcoming and direct in five or six minutes. your remarks will automatically be included in the record. dr. haskins. we are going to time you, too. >> i will talk about spending in the program and what we should do about poverty. i included a figure in my testimony. it has done too big surprises in it. one is that we have made no progress in poverty since 1975 despite the fact that we are spending a ton of money. the rate of poverty for seniors is lower than for children in our society. those are facts that we need to focus on and we need to especially concentrate on children. eshoo to -- issue two, we spend money on means tested programs. the idea that we are not spending enough money is probably incorrect. some of the programs might not be successful but we are spending $

and a particular thanks to congresswoman brown from florida. [ cheers and applause ] senator kay hz hagan president of the marine association, chief officer and dr. james everhart united states marine corps. the past national president of the montford point marine association, our united states retiree. [ cheers and applause ] and joe carpenter, lieutenant colonel retired united states marine corps. [ cheers and applause ] i would like to personally thank the officers and staff of the marine corps special projects director colonel smith and her operations planning team. you guys did a heck of a job. heck of a job putting it all together. last but not least, on february 25th of last year at the camp joseph h. pendleton base theater -- i happened to be there, a gentleman said that this injustice, this nonrecognition of what montford point marines did, many of them who served through world war ii and on into korea and vietnam, a bunch of them are here, he said he was going to fix it. and he did. a man of his word. he made it happen. 35th common marine corps joe jam james. [ cheers and applau

brown's faly. t, though, we go to mike hellgren, who has the latest from court. >> good evening, kai. he had his head down, wore a t- shirt and khaki pants. he asked to be released. the judge did order the officer released on his own personal recognizance. no sorts of conditions there. the judge said he believed the officer was not a danger. a number of fellow officers also came to testify on hithat, the police chief and state's attorney held a press conference about the charges, right here. >> reporter: after increasing pressure from the family of 17- year-old chris brown, officer labord will face charges in connection with death. they include manslaughter and involuntary manslaughter, both are felonies. and they d in jail for 10 years. >> the job of police officer, as we all know, is one of the most difficult there is. every day, we ask officers to make split-second decisions, life-and-death decisions, clude the deon as to whether or not to use use >> reporter: here's what police say happened. exactly two weeks ago, own br was walking with other young people in his neighborhood in r

kai jackson. >> and i'm mary bubala. here's what people are talking about. have breaking news in the death of christopher brown, who struggled in the off-duty officer. a warrant is issued for the officer's arrest. wjz is live with complete coverage. alex demetrick has emotional reaction from the victim's family. but we begin with mike hellgren in towson with details. >> reporter: kai, that officer is behind me in a courtroom, for a bail review. i can't say this is necessarily a bombshell. but it is rare for an officer to have this kind of charges against him. officer james labord will face manslaughter and involuntary manslaughter charges, in connection with 17-year-old christopher brown's death. here's what police say happened in this. it was two weeks ago, when brown and some other young people were walking through their neighborhood in randallstown. the officer heard someone throw a rock at his door. he tried to chase them down. he confronted brown. there was some sort of an altercation. and brown ended up dying. now, the police chief said this is a deeply sad day for his department. he spoke to us just a f