>> i'm afraid we may be looking at kay corleone here.was going have any influence it would have been at the outset. things have gone much too far for that and i fear that this gentle lady is caught in a horrible situation that she never envisioned. >> well, thanks very much, babied theodor and ambassador ginsburg on this fast-moving situation. i'm sure we'll be back to both of you in the period ahead. >> sure. >>> let's bring in our mega panel for mega insight. that's msnbc political analyst karen finney, republican strategist and msnbc contributor susan del percio and editor at large for thomson reuters. welcome, ladies. here and in washington. let me start with you, susan. i like the kay corleone analogy wlp what-of-what could you make of what you heard? chaos, promises situation on the ground in libya. what do you expect? >> have to expect decades of chaos. you're look at all of these governments, whether syria falls in a month or six months, yemen falls eventually these are all going to be new government it's that have no leadership