. >> steve and gene shaheen and mark pryor and kay hagan. they're in trouble, pat.do you think? i think they'll move very expeditiously to kick this thing over for one year. they ought to. it's obvious it ought to be taken back to the shop. >> sounds like a cya, pat, where i come from. what if it happened in the nixon administration, pat? >> it did. >> well, we had problems of our own, as you recall. >> that was my point. all right. thank you both. up next tonight on "hannity" straight ahead -- >> you have seen an extreme faction of the republican party that has shown again and again and again that they are willing to hijack the entire party and the country. >> once again the president who pledged to restore civility is openly accusing republicans of hijacking the u.s. up next, reince priebus responds to the despicable rhetoric. quick programming note. tomorrow night "hannity" live feisty studio audience edition. you won't see it anywhere else on cable. fireworks like you have never experienced. liking your flat rate shipping. fedex one rate. really makes my life ea

she is reflecting the feelings of people like kay hagan, going for reelection in north carolina. these are people really and terror. -- really in terror. i think it is safe to say without too much of a reach the sense of dissatisfaction, the dysfunction of the federal government as witnessed by the rollout coupled with the oftdown contributed to loss referendum questions in states like colorado. the hemorrhaging of confidence in the public sector. theot to mention to come to led by the president of the united states. >> exactly. >> the last two presidents and the presidents even before them have abrogated more and more hours to the white house. so, you have all of this power and no apparatus to carry it out . it is absolutely obvious. is notg about obamacare a staph problem. it is a presidential problem. >> let me refer you to something from "politico" lit last week. from the moment the health care of the announced, years repugnant party vowed to kill it, taking it all the way to the -- the republican party vowed to kill it, taking it all the way to the supreme court. they mass r

the kay/hagan bill that will extend enrollment. people are rapidly realizing those aren't going to work. they're not going to offer any real release. if democrats did such a phenomenal job of creating a law to destroy the insurance markets, there are no quick fixes. and so they can talk about all this but you've got insurers saying they can't comply with rules like that in such a short period of time. and so you are not going to have any democrats going down and convincing people that this is the way that things are going to get better. it's just not going to happen. >> particularly, james, after you've seen these very public pratfalls. you've seen all of these democrats falling on their face trying to prove that the thing works when it doesn't work. in fact, you had sebelius down in florida for a photo op, supposedly to show how smooth things were operating. take a look at what happened. >> i think it's great that this is happening. >> wow. it's been a long time coming. >> yeah. >> -- temporarily down. >> uh-oh. >> it's okay, it w

finally, kay hagan in north carolina. you remember, kay hagan won this seat in 2008 by beating elizabeth dole, are a bit more accurate others but the dole lost the seat and kay hagan was a beneficiary. so she's going to have a race if republicans get the candidate they need. they have a primary but there's a clear front runner in the seed for the house. of these five seats, i suspect that before long three of them come at least three will end up tossups. whether republicans can expand that plainfield with a recruit elsewhere, something they're trying to do, they haven't succeeded yet. and you look at the other side of the ledger. and you see that democrats really only come of those 14 republican seats that are up, i think only two of them today are realistic targets. mitch mcconnell in kentucky, for obvious reasons. he's in the tossup column. he's got a tea party primary that i have to say he's more than holding his own in right now. i'm wondering if anybody told matt bevans what taking on mitch mcconnell was going to be

out for this administration, i would say metaphor in this town for obamacare is a senator named kay hagan, a moderate democrat from north carolina was leading in her reelect fight next year, up by 15 points, she is tied in north carolina people tell politickers reason where because of obamacare, so many democrats are running scares for 2014. lou: there are 16 senators, the caucus today meeting to let the white house know, there is either a fix, which they consider to be reliable by friday or there is going to be a -- looks like there will be a least a threatened -- they will be joining up with upton on his legislation make sure people are able to keep their insurance. >> all a farce. how are they able to keep their plans, i would love for a democratic law maker to explain to me, this is a fake, phony strategy like if youment your doctor you like your doctor you can keep your doctor, old plans did not exist any more, to say people can keep them, means they are against the law, lou, that law that democrats wrote, i am wondering how are they going to reconcile this, insurance companies are n

as you were talking about earlier kay hagan, she is going to face a tough battle coming up in 2014.>> because republicans are going to hammer her. wait a minute, i have to run for re-election and they love that kind of fight in the party. >> you can check her out on sunday. >> thank you for her time today. alley-oop turns into a scary alley-oops for the harlem globe trotters. and breaking his silence. what the owner of the team says about the bullying scandal and how dan marino figurers into it next. >> when all of this got attached to it i texted him as a friend and said it is not coming from me. i haven't said anything to anybody. >> i'm like you know okay. >>> welcome back everyone. here is what america is clicking on today. walmart is going to chick on its black friday weekend sales as early as dinner time thanksgiving night. >>> and globe trotter suffering a mashed gash and dislocated shoulder while he was in the middle of that spectacular dunk. >>> plus this power boat racer cheating death. he had set a record for this formula two class boat when it flipped through the air. >>

i would say that the metaphor in this town for obamacare is a senator named kay hagan.oderate democrat from north carolina. she was easily leading in her reelection fight for next year. up by 10 or 12 or 15 points and now tied in north carolina and people tell polltakers a reason why is obamacare. there are so many democrats who are now runningscared for 2014. lou: 16 senators, saying they quote unquote dressed him down. then the democratic caucus today let the white house know that either there is what they consider to be reliable by friday, or there is going to be -- it looks like there will be at least athreat and they will be joining up with fred upton on his legislation to make sure that people are able to keep their health insurance. >> it's all a farce. how are they able to keep their plans? is as liable gloves were a democratic lawmaker to explain it to me. this is a fake and phony strategy like if you like your doctor you can keep your doctor. the old plans do not exist anymore and to say that people can keep their plans means that the plans are against the law

and this ad targets kay hagan of north carolina. >> people don't like political ads. i don't like them either. but health care isn't about politics. it's about people. it's not about a website that doesn't work. it's not about poll numbers or approval ratings. it's about people. and millions of people have lost their health insurance. millions of people can't see their own doctors and millions are paying more and getting less. obama care doesn't work. it just doesn't work. tell senator hagan to stop thinking about politics and start thinking about people. >> ads just like that one are being rolled out against louisiana senator landrieu and others. i used the example of virginia slims because it weighs to women who wanted to be sexy and thin and groovy and all that. what are they saying? you don't need health care. don't sign up. >> in fairness, they are trying to dissuade everybody from participating in this program, and they see women as a vulnerable group to go after here. the idea -- they don't say it sabotage, but it's hard to describe it as anything but that. now

kai hagan a democrat in north carolina he was polar until two weeks ago.was blowing away in this polling every republican challenger. whether they were known or unknown and now she is under water against some of them and leads a handful of others. that must be great political pressure. the tox sisity bill is why bill clinton abandoned the president. he is looking to his wife's expected candidacy. he doesn't want her to be taken down as democrats appear to be headed toward a disaster in 2014. this thing is going to last well until 2014. he wants to divorce hillary from the debacle of obama care. >> not literally divorce hillary. the point is that center landreu and others are co sponsoring these bills. wouldn't it be better to say let's take a break until the end of the month. >> let me pile geraldo's law. day for a day. now we are at november 13th. we have 44 days in and 44 days we should delay the mandate's implementation. the insurance companies are screaming bloody murder. they don't want any delay and need those premiums coming into cover their expande

. >> mark you you kay hagan they van opportunity to be here. >> if they don't want these web sites likeior loves obama.gov or whatever it is are you going to use them in the campaign. >> we might use them and illustrate to constituents. mark prior said obama is amazing success tore. mary landrieu in louisiana who said if her constituents don't like obamacare they can unelect her. we are going to give them that shot. >> nice to see you. >> thank you, greta. >> thanks for being with us tonight. going to see you tomorrow night at 7 p.m. eastern. up next o'reilly factor. go to gretawire.com and tell us what you think about tonight's show gretawire.com. see you tomorrow night. >>> the o'reilly factor is on. tonight: >> yonk i'm stupid enough to go around saying like this is going to be shopping like amazon or travelocity a week before the web site opens if i thought it wasn't going to work. >> the folks may be turning against obama. is the administration unraveling? we will give you the facts tonight. >> videos of the knockout game are popping up all over the internet innocent victims punche

reelection and the success or failure will be crucial as to whether senator mark se dprvetionech kay hagan and gene sheheen will get reelected. they have been supporting the law. president obama went behind closed doors to talk to them today. >> president obama is supporting his health care law and told volunteers that he's unhappy with the troubled rollout. >> right now there's great insurance to be had out there. choice and competition, where people can save money, for a better product, except, too many folks haven't been able to get through the website. >> heidi zhou-castro from our bureau, heidi, why texas, why now? >> the president said it himself. texas may be one of the most resistant states to the affordable care act, but also one of the states with the greatest potential for this law to succeed, if they tap into the wide pool of uninsured. and when it comes to the rate of uninsured in texas that's also the highest one in four people in texas not having health insurance at this moment. as for the timing of today, for the president's visit, well it follows on the heels of some good

. >> mark you you kay hagan they van opportunity to be here. >> if they don't want these web sites likeoves obama.gov or whatever it is are you going to use them in the campaign. >> we might use them and illustrate to constituents. mark prior said obama is amazing success tore. mary landrieu in louisiana who said if her constituents don't like obamacare they can unelect her. we are going to give them that shot. >> nice to see you. >> thank you, greta. >> thanks for being with us tonight. going to see you tomorrow night at 7 p.m. eastern. up next o'reilly factor. go to gretawire.com and tell us what you think about tonight's show gretawire.com. see you tomorrow night. >>> welcome to "red eye." tonight, this -- >> coming up on "red eye." does air guitar cause shingles? how new evidence has some shredders have some people thinking twice before their next solo. and is the white house negotiating a a secret alliance with the decepticon? >> we are consulting with our allies and our partners and we will see if an agreement can be reached. >> and finally synchronized walk you you walk -- walker

why did mark pryor, kay hagan, mark begich, why did these people support it? it's a very simple message and very powerful message. look, i think bill clinton who is certainly a senior strategist in the party, i think he recognizes the danger here. i think it's why he gave president obama maybe unwanted and unsolicited advice saying they should figure out a way to allow people who do like their plan, whether it's a substandard plan or whatever to keep it. bill clinton has an eye on a lot of those 2014 senate democrats where that one ad, andrea, could be devastating for them politically. >> jay carney is right now getting hammered by reporters asking when they will release numbers of enroll mment. they already pretty much let folks know numbers would be really bad, really weak, because that's what kathleen sebelius was saying. they have tried to low ball it as much as they can or inoculate against the numbers. what else can they do? >> not much else they can do. maybe release trend data. maybe they will show in the final week of october they finally saw as the w

so if you're mary landrieu you mentioned or kay hagan in north carolina or mark pryor in arkansas and already facing a tough i rarace, this is a devastating turn of events in the last weeks. they know that. that's why they are turning from the white house. here is the challenge for senate democrats fedex year. how do they bring out the liberal base of their party, the kind of people president obama turned out twice to win the presidency while at the same time creating some separation between themselves and the president to appeal for the middle. that's going to be really the challenge for those democrats on the ballot next year in swing areas. >> joining me here as well is mark murray, our deputy political director. really, the sense on the hill of betrayal from this white house, that they weren't competent, weren't straight, they didn't give the right talking points, walked the plank, this is a real sense of betrayal. >> andrea, there is. democrats feel like they stuck out their neck every way, drafting this in 2009, 2010, whether it was during all the hiccups involved during preside

look, you have the democrat in north carolina, senator kay hagan whose nine-point lead evaporated inst few weeks. there is an obama care effect. democrats are running scared. hillary clinton should be nervous. she's the god mother of socialized medicine. >> the polls show 50% of the american people believe he told them an intentional lie. >> i will disagree. >> if obama care is the central issue not just next year but in 2016. >> it's not going to be. here's why. smart democrats in tough re-election battles will force the president and the party to put in a fix quickly. i think obama care was the law that could be improved. look, i think you have to follow president clinton's advice which president obama picked up on. they will get a bill out into the senate and into the house that's going to be allowing people whose plans are cancelled. they have to fix it. >> there is a question about whether that collapses obama care. they need the people to abandon the plan. >> the only fix is a full repeal which -- >> i disagree with that. >> if they need those people to go into the exchange and

but you have some democrats, like mark pryor, kay hagan, others who are banging the list, needs to workks like, unfortunately, it won't be fully functional by the deadline. >> hillary, it winds up being a black eye, doesn't it? >> politics is, i think, the furtherest thing from the president's mind about this right now. you'll hear more and more stories like i heard this week sitting around our thanksgiving table, where my cousin, who had been unable to get insurance for the last 15 years because of a pre-existing condition, all of a sudden walked into an insurance agency and could not be refused. those stories are going to multiply and multiply and multiply. that's what this is about. you know, i think you're hearing the republicans trying to sustain a political story, and why they want to make a political story out of preventing people from getting health insurance coverage is just beyond me. >> hillary, let's move on to the economy. let me ask you this. there was a cnn/orc poll, and what the numbers show is that fewer than a quarter of those surveyed actually feel the economy is reco

. >> no, post -- >> look at kay hagan in north carolina. it looked like she was going to be in good shape for re-election, especially after the shutdown. she was leading significantly in the polls. now it's very close. and she's one of the key seats that we have to win to keep control of the senate. so it is very much in play. i don't know why the president would make this fix if he wasn't concerned about the senate being in play and the piece of it i don't understand is why not give red state democrats an opportunity to go on the record to take a vote, trying to fix the obama care problem that's causing them issues. >> i think krystal's point is apt in the sense that if you want to do something here that's about action, you have to leave some space for your side to take action. you know from running for congress, and i have some sense after working for two senators. it's harder to go around the country and say to people, no, no, we have this feeling and here's the press release that explained it. you want to have a vote. you want the vote

a democratic source tells cnn that north carolina senator kay hagan said all the democratic women inurse includes warren, has signed a secret letter to hillary clinton encouraging her to run. now, while that might leave progressives looking for another option, warren has not yet declared her support for clinton and she has yet to publicly discuss her own intentions for 2016. wolf? >> interesting stuff. erin, thank you. let's dig a little deeper right now. joining us, our chief political analyst, gloria >>> what about that last point, that supposedly all the democratic women, senators, signed a secret letter that endorsed in effect hillary clinton for the democratic presidential nomination? >> i think they overstate it. they encourage the right-hand, that's about as uncontroversial a proposition in the democratic party today as motherhood and apple pie. so i don't read a whole lot into it. i i think the opposite scenario, had elizabeth warren been the only woman not to sign it, she would have effectively signaled that she was going to run -- >> but that's a heart thing to back out of,

democratic north carolina senator kay hagan wants an investigation into this. we got a copy of a draft letter where she write taxpayers are owed a full and transparent accounting of how the vendor who built the site failed to launch it successfully. and senator hagan points out that 55 contractors were hired to build healthcare.gov. she wants to know who did what, whether those contractor were paid even if their work was not satisfactory and how much all these fix, the tech surge, is going to cost us all. bill: peter doocy leading our coverage from the white house. martha: as the enrollment numbers continue to trickle out, cancellations of policy still a huge problem. the number of people who have lost their healthcare coverage and got one of those letters in the mail that said you are done at x date has represent up to the 5 million mark. rob portman said this could have been avoided. bill: a question for you at home if you are watching. what would you suggest to make obamacare better? send us tweeted@martha maccallum and bill hemmer. blast away. send those to

obama care faces new pressure this morning from within the president's own party, democratic senator kay hagan of north carolina is calling for an investigation into the troubled launch of the health care website. and this morning, we're getting the first estimates on the number of americans who actually signed up for coverage. they are much lower than what the administration had hoped for. major garrett is at the white house. major, good morning. >> good morning norah and charlie. the administration will not comment on these figures. neither the white house nor the department of health and human services principally because they're set to release figures later this week. "the wall street journal" estimated 40,000 to 50,000 consumers have signed up on the federal website. meaning healthcare.gov. that very troubled website where consumers have had so much trouble even signing up for coverage. cbs has collected data from the state exchanges. those are separate health insurance exchanges and found that 50,000 consumers have signed up there. the administration has long said that the first enrollme

kay hagan is getting wobbly on the issue.democrats in 2014, unless they are extremely loose states, they are trying to distance themselves from obamacare as quickly as possible. a lot of employers are going to see that in the middle of this crisis, we are going to be able to drop expensive insurance coverage and blame it on obamacare. >> are republicans overhyping obamacare as the issue of 2014? >> i think they're making a mistake if that becomes the focus of the race and they do not address other problems in the party. i came with some introductory remarks and i think it is too early to draw anything meaningful from it. i think the strength of the business community. you saw during the shutdown, commerce groups said, we are done with the tea party. we may consider fielding our own candidates. i think the strength of the business community has been wildly exaggerated. i think they're going to lose. i do not think they're going to be be shaping force in the gop. it will be a great test today and the alabama primary. the chambe

right now coming under this kind of political pressure from their own party, from senators like kay hagan who want investigations into waist of taxpayer dollars, how much it takes to fix it and asking for a two-month delay. if they continue to not delay they have to take a fact desperate to enroll people directly working with insurance companies because the website doesn't work that we're still missing young and healthy people. we're looking the fact that the president lied. there is tremendous anxiety now among the insured about whether or not obamacare is going to affect their employer-provided plans like it did in all the cancellations of the self-insured policies. and then finally looking at this medicaid bit. if this is, if this is a surprise to the administration they will probably need to consider where the math all adds up, how expensive this could make private insurance for everybody and whether or not they actually do need to reassess the idea of a delay. jon: they're saying at white house they're not all that surprised they have got fewer than 50,000 people signed up on the ind

obama care faces new pressure this morning from within the president's own party, democratic senator kay haganf north carolina is calling for an investigation into the troubled launch of the health care website. and this morning, we're getting the first estimates on the number of americans who actually signed up for coverage. they are much lower than what the administration had hoped for. major garrett is at the white house. major, good morning. >> good morning norah and charlie. the administration will not comment on these figures. neither the white house nor the department of health and human services principally because they're set to release figures later this week. "the wall street journal" estimated 40,000 to 50,000 consumers have signed up on the federal website. meaning healthcare.gov. that very troubled website where consumers have had so much trouble even signing up for coverage. cbs has collected data from the state exchanges. those are separate health insurance exchanges and found that 50,000 consumers have signed up there. the administration has long said that the first enrollment

another democrat, senator kay hagan, one year fix is not enough and congress needs to do more., quickly i'm trying to understand this process. so if is really onus going back on insurance companies do they have the ability to say, no, to the one-year extension, or are they being forced to accept at least another year? >> absolutely. for you to get canceled plan you have to go through two layers. first the state insurance commissioner which you live has to sign off on to allow standards to be lowered. your insurance company says, okay, we will reissue the plan. this is just the administration we're taking our hands off this one for next year but doesn't mean states will sign off and doesn't mean insurance companies will either. tracy: huh. that is a big piece of the pus celeste out. ashley and i were talking about the president, three times, yes we fumbled the ball. everyone is waiting for apology on this. it almost seems like it is too late. >> well the president gave an interview last week and, you know, the thing was, about his apology last week, some people found it insuffic

mary landrieu, democrat from louisiana who is up for re-election in 2014, kay hagan, same boat. senator prior of arkansas, same boat. they have legislation that they are pushing to say, look, if you like the health care that you have, the insurance policy that you can keep it. never mind what house republicans are doing, which is they are already have a vote scheduled for the end of the week with legislation along these lines. so, everybody is sort of jumping on what bill clinton said for obvious reasons because the administration itself has to turn to him as almost an oracle. somebody who is a messenger, a secretary of explaining things is how somebody has put it. and, so, for him to say it, it almost gives, gives cover for even more democrats, never mind republicans to say this is something we need to do and we need to do fast. >> including, in fact, some liberal democrats and close allies of president obama. just earlier on cnn dick durbin talked about perhaps changing the law a little bit. let's listen to what he had to say. >> i think we need to look at the political realit

according to a democratic source who said kay hagan talked about the still to be released letter at aratic contenders shows clinton with a huge lead, 65% of democrats polled chose her with vice president wide an distant secon second. the republican field is less crowded. but it's the new jersey governor just one day out from his likely re-election getting all the buzz, especially since his campaign seems to be as much about 2016 as the garden state. it sound like you are planning for a message beyond new jersey. is that a fair assessment? >> i'm not paying for it. i'm saying it's inevitable. >> i can walk and chew gum and do this job and deal with my future. that's exactly what i will do. >> reporter: but a new book on the 2012 election out this week claims mitt romney crossed christie off his running mates for failing to disclose a number of issues, including his health, though romney, himself, dismissed those concerns. >> with regards to his health, he provided his health records to us. it is solid, very good. there is not an issue there. chris could easily become our nominee and sa

carl levin is retiring in michigan and kay hagan who is seeking reelection in north carolina.he way i start offending it up seatsre are 34 democratic that are not up this time. 31 republican. then thereabouts seven gimme putts for democrats. are eight states that we're pretty sure we know. it could change the world for the sure we know where it will go. , shouts inlorado hawaii, marquis in massachusetts, shaheen in new hampshire, collins in maine. there's ira, michigan, al .ranken we pretty sure the servants say democrat, but it could change. under the hide their three democratic seats that we think of probably going over to the republican side. open season montana, south dakota, west virginia. you sort of assume all that just for the sake of argument, the senate comes under succeeds. two of them, georgia and kentucky on the republican side, , ofka, baggage, arkansas the six, because republicans are the have two, republicans have to win five out of six to take a majority in the senate. five of six. that is pretty hard. let's assume for a second that republicans hang on to geor

the senate side is introducing legislation to allow insurers to keep selling plans, carl levin and kay hagan, all lean democratic. max baucus of montana, jay rockefeller of west virginia, leaning republican, tim johnson of south dakota. going to the republicans racest, mitch mcconnell's is a tossup. saxby chambliss is leaning republican. jo, you're up next, island park, new york. independent line. in life, i observed that don't look at what people say but look at what they do. the republicans haven't signed up for this because they know it is a disaster. nobody really wanted this. , obama astonishing is has not signed up for obamacare. harry reid is not signed up for obama care. este pelosi has not signed up for obamacare. --y should be called the this should be called the on affordable care act. democrats don't want it, but they want to foisted on us. when they sign up, maybe americans will call. but they don't want it, so i don't want it. it is guy on twitter says here is randy, millington, michigan, democrat line. caller: i would like to thank you and all those folks that we don't see who

also north carolina democrat kay hagan.ely to face a tougher challenger. >>> we're going to get a quick check on the markets, take a look at what's going on. dow would open up about 44 points higher, s&p up four points and nasdaq up over 12 points. >>> obama care to the ongoing budget battle, the chaos on capitol hill continues. joining us to talk about these stories and more is haley barbour. he's also founding partner of bgr group. and governor, it's great to have you here today. >> thank you, becky, glad to be back. >> what do you think, you shake your head, scratch your head? >> well, for governors who get paid to do things, you know, it really is concerning that washington's just constipated. there's nothing else you can say about it. the president doesn't lead, the republicans, i thought, really did themselves a lot of damage. the democrats are not interested in working together. i mean, there's nothing to recommend it right now, except for republicans, the real shame of it was for three weeks, we kept obama -- care o

by a bunch of the quote/unquote red state democrats who have to seek re-election, mary landrieu, kay hagan. these are the folks that are driving this nervousness, savannah, because they're -- you know, the president's popularity rating hit an all-time low nationally in our poll. well, if it's 42% nationally, imagine what it is in arkansas, imagine what it is in louisiana, where democrats have to win re-election in order to hold control of the senate. so, that's what this is all about. they're extremely nervous and they think that health care could cost them control of the senate if this rollout doesn't improve very quickly. >> chuck todd in our washington bureau, thank you very much. >>> there is another revelation that has a lot of people in washington talking this morning. a new book claims top aides to the president, president obama, gave serious consideration to replacing vice president joe biden on the 2012 ticket. nbc's andrea mitchell has details on that. andrea, tell us what you know. >> reporter: good morning, matt. three years ago, their book changed the game with revelations ran

you have vulnerable ones like kay hagan in north carolina whose numbers have collapsed in recent weeksand over again. they should have known it was untrue all along the law is based getting people out of their individual insurance and on to the exchange. >> look at these pictures, democrats up for re-election and who are scared right now. >> you know, there is no question that they are scared. but, look, i think that the bottom line here is that people are going to be secure now. they are going to be saying thank god my insurance company -- it's not in the law. the insurance companies have always been dropping people. there was something called rescission that's a word that we don't hear too often now but that's what was going on before obamacare. just because it's happening now that the law is in effect doesn't mean it's because of obamacare. that's correlation not causation. i think democrats are a little bit scared. but they need to stick together here because this is how we got to this point. americans needed health insurance and democrats gave it to them. republicans blocked it it