take a look at one campaign ad about kay hagen on that point. >> kay hagen votes with barack obama 96%t will it take to change her mind? how many families will have to lose good health coverage? how many workers will have to lose their jobs? how many people will have to pay for kay hagan's loyalty to obama? >> you had a base in new jersey that was excited about the incumbent president. how do democrats deal with this in other states where it's a different environment? >> look, i think the white house is very sophisticated about how and when they are going to deploy the president, and there's a lot of ways for the president to be helpful. he can make phone calls behind the scenes, help with fundraising, lend his name to targeted efforts to constituencies that particularly support him, but the fact of the matter is, it is going to be a tough environment for democrats. i agree with mr. axelrod we're going to have to invest. that's what the dsec and the entire democratic infrastructure is focused on in 2014. >> john, i want to put up on that point some of these states where we're seeing ch

bipartisan majorities in the house and the senate calling for the pipeline to be built, and senators like kay hagen, mary landrew, from alaska, calling on the president to get this done, grant the permit, and they are feeling political pressure to support the pipe line, because the people support the project the the way we look at it is the energy consumers, the drivers of america, the people that want to see the jobs they have been supportive. they granted the democrats majority. it's not surprising that the house, the senate store this on a bipartisan basis. >> susan casey. some of the senators michael named not only come from oil states and are democrats, but they face re-election in 2014. tough time for them? >> you know, what we see when we look at what the american people have been saying that they want is overwhelmingly they want clean energy. that's something you see in every poll across the board. the more people learn about what keystone xl carries, the more they learn about what tar sonands is, what it means for the environment. we argue the opposite. the american people have been learni

>> i don't see democrats like mark begich in alaska or kay hagen starting now because of these positive stories to start running on obamacare. it won't happen and the gop is going to stay fixated on this issue in 2014. immigration is not happening. tax reform is not happening, given up on entitlement reform this year so what else. >> and obamacare isn't exactly separate from the economy and the president's approval rating, is you know, at its lowest point of the presidency so if the economy continues to stagnate and the president continues to be in the 40s, once we hit september, october, november, to your point, none of the red state democrats are going to be -- >> almost like obamacare is a theological issue at this point. they either think that it's good or bad or hurt their family even if it has nothing to do with their family, and so for the change of that perception is a big ask. >> and they are not really good explaining what the law does, explaining the benefits and the upsides and downsides. they were really detailed and technical and once again the obama administration had a d

they're spending millions of dollars not only on house races but also in senate races going after kay hagenor her support on obamacare in north carolina so that issue is not going to go away for democrats. they'll have to hold on to the local issues or to some of these issues they can separate themselves from obama and from the republicans on. we'll just have to see if the voters are buying. jon: seems like a long time between february and november but it's going to come quickly, especially if you're a candidate. thanks very much. jenna: fox weather alert now. millions across the broad section of the country getting a one, two punch from mother nature. watches and warnings in effect from oklahoma all the way into the northeast and this new storm could dump an additional foot of snow in many areas already hit. arkansas could get hit with half an inch of ice. pennsylvania is trying to recover from snow covered roads and check out these pictures from connecticut as well. the snow there turning side streets into a winter wonderland for some and a commuting nightmare for others. you know, you ne

in north carolina, democratic incumbent kay hagen trailing her republican challenger by seven poin.s you can tell, this is a ry serious moment for the democrats. in montana, the open seat, republican there isheady 14 points. how worried are the deocrats? mr. obama's counselor david axelrod so worried that democrats are spending their money on hillary clinton's presidential hopes that he is tweeting. here is what he had to say. with the senate seriously at risk as you see here and koch brothers spending pre ding usually, shouldn't dep funders be focused on '14 and not '16 races? that's interesting, that's a question i often ask of the republicans. time for some of your comments. we're giving a copy of my new book to everyone whose tweet or post is used. right on target with your view on government and president obama'sunilateral actions. since our president believes he can do anything he wishes time to change his title from commander in chief to nars cyst in chief. george on facebook says i suggest instead of giving nuses to workers, irs should reimburse hundreds of thousands of doll

to be seen in photo opportunities with the president, whether it is mary landrieu in louisiana or kay hagen carolina or mark pryor in arkansas. it could undermine their ability to get reelected. it is one of the problems you have when your job approval numbers are not as robust in the mid-50s, low 60s, shall we say than they are in the mid-40s. >> he can't have another term as president. so everybody is looking at least for the democratic nominee. it seems to be hillary clinton. i want to pop up another poll, wolf, so we can look at where her numbers stand. we have been talking a lot about this in the last few weeks. she is legions ahead of any other potential candidate. for democrats choice for nominee for 2016, she is hauling in 70% next to a more liberal candidate that might get 10% and a more conservative democrat that might say 15%. i keep saying it seems like it is hers to lose. we have said that before, a year or so out. we have been very, very wrong. >> the last time she ran back in 2007, 2008, it looked like she was well on her way. at this point in that election cycle, the junior

remember back to elizabeth dole when she lost her race back in 2008 to kay hagen, a general election,, one of the big things that started elizabeth dole's slide downward politically was the fact that she listed her home address as her mother's home in north carolina. she was very unfrequently back in the state. and they wind -- the democrats wound up very successfully using that sort of open up a window into elizabeth dole doesn't really care about north carolina. that doesn't mean pat roberts will have that same thing happen to him, but it is dangerous. >> thanks very much, chris cillizza, mark halperin, great to see both of you guys. >>> down south, the south is bracing for another ice storm. overnight georgia's governor, though, is vowing today not to repeat last time's debacle. two inches of snow, we remember, shut down atlanta and the suburbs last month, trapping cars on highways overnight, stranding thousands of kids in schools. this morning governor nathan diehl declared a state of emergency for 45 counties and released a plan to mobilize emergency services. authorities are ask

this is one against north carolina democratic senator kay hagen.e this resonating? >> i think it will stick around with us. i think it sticks for the 2014 election potentially. we're not going to see the big effect. we are not seeing, you know, everyone you know in your neighborhood leaving the workforce. we are talking about a relatively small percentage of people work deciding they would rather not have a job and have access to health insurance. it is more of a political story than economic story of people exiting the workforce. >> a few could have imagined when the law was signed amid much jubilation at the white house in 2010 that nearly four years later obama would be fighting to convince the nation it was not mistake. is the popularity of the law only going to keep dropping? could there be a positive change? >> that's an interesting question. you know, the best polling we have seen has shown the country pretty split and trending negative since open enrollment began in the health care law in october so i think what democrats are hoping is more

kay hagen of north carolina, 96% voting record with the president.they going to be able i guess run away from those records if that's what they want to do. >> listen, when obama goes to a state and they can try to run away and not be in the state and be in washington, d.c. you can't run away from your voting record. it is what it is. republican candidates can utilize that with the fund-raising and commercials to get out message that you supported a failure in policies and that is why the country is where it is today. so they can run, jon, but they can't hide because the facts are there black and white. jon: james carville ended his article by suggesting that democratic candidates go negative early and often. so we can prepare for a whole lot of that perhaps in the upcoming election season. angela mcglowan, thanks. >> thanks, jon. jenna: we'll switch topics here, jon. jon: all right. jenna: a landmark for "g.i. joe." a landmark for the good guy, right? >> yeah. jenna: he turns 50 years old today. the iconic action figure entertaining children since 19

does not need to be simply a question of obamacare, the key democrats, kay hagen of north carolina or mary landrieu of louisiana, mark pryor of arkansas, mark begich of alaska, reliable votes for obama like big things of the stimulus. we're the fifth anniversary of the stimulus. we were supposed to have 5% and economy was going and proking if we spent the trillion dollars. this needs to be put in a broader framework which is, on obamacare, on stimulus, on spending, on the deficit, this incumbent member of congress, this incumbent member of the senate is too reliable vote for president obama. do you want somebody who will vote down the line with president or somebody who will be a reliable check on the president during the last two years in office. jon: i want to get your take on something that "the new york times" published this morning. here's a line from their article titled "on health act, democrats run and fix it mode." it reads as, democrats approach the 2014 midterm elections they're grappling with a talk ward reality. the health care law passed almost entirely by democrats rema