kayte walsh is a good example. i don't think she's somebody necessarily disloyal.first of all, she wasn't necessarily a trump person, more of an establishment person. >> steve bannon with him in the fight -- >> big surprise you get in steve bannon and this happens? should we be surprised? if you look at the things that kayte walsh says, i did find those the most concerning things. she talks about it's like trying to figure out what a child wants, dealing with the president. she asked jared kushner, tell me what his top three priorities are. he said i can't. portrays basically, what we have observed from the outside she really lends credence to the idea that the president is in over his head. >> kayte walsh has come up tonight. she has completely and flatly denied saying this. >> right, in ax owe, which we talked about the last hour. >> i've been communicating with someone close to her. they believe bannon is saying these things and attributing them to katye for the author. back to bryan's point earlier -- >> we reached out to her. she said what she said to axio --