>> not in the kayten. it was in the f-16. >> in today's heads up display, we have villars, i lf, pack and made the f, of the avionics integrated with the display in a very robust way that increases safety and improved performance of the pilots and the crew especially when they're operating in fatigues situations . g think it is important to have this kind of avionics credibility in aircraft these days? >> i do. >> do you think it's important to have to rain awareness and warning systems in a multi function display for aircraft that fly in areas that sometimes require very low flight and dangerous scenarios? >> if it is practical and affordable, absolutely. >> and of course when it comes to threat indication, c1 thirties' often fly in difficult places. threat indicators important. the other thing, one of the concerns i have especially regarding the c-130 fleet that i dealt with in the navy is the various configurations of display, various configurations of avionic systems. it seems like every aircraft you g