photography, and we will see a couple of things here, several things, tell me, your wife introduced you to kearments, yes? >> yes. >> rose: and what did it do for you? what did it turn you into? >> i think for one thing, the first thing she would tell you it taught me some patience. if you want to get a cheetah on a kill you have to wait. and. >> rose: they are not waiting for you. >> that's right there is no remote control. so it did, it taught me some patience but i just saw -- i started seeing things, you know, on the farm originally that i just wanted to capture and then when i started traveling and originally we did a lot in conservation so it was a lot of fun, you know, elephants and cheetahs and lions and all of those things that kids like to see and we all love, but, you know, then i learned that photography is a really powerful tool to change people's minds, to make them -- you can't -- if you have a strong enough photograph, people can't turn away from it, you can't deny that it is happening and so to me, i think i write in the book if i remember right it is look a, like a truth gun it rea