patrick johnson and keeanga-yamahtta taylor who both teach at northwestern, as well as to harvard kennedy'slil gibran muhammad . today we're joined by another one of the banned professor kimberlÉ crenshaw, coined the term intersectionality to study the overlapped termination people springs. executive director of the african-american policy forum, professor of law at ucla and columbia university. joining us from new york after receiving the winslow medal, the yale school of public health's highest honor. it recognizes outstanding achievements and public health leadership, scholarship, or contribution to society. congratulations, professor crenshaw come on that honor. some consider it an honor now to be banned, though they are infuriated by it, and i'm wondering what your thoughts are now? to be clear, the college board said they made this decision, for example, to exclude your work from the required course before desantis made this last statement a few weeks ago. >> yes, yes, well, thank you. it is good to be back. i think the focus of the debate so far has perhaps misdirected the conversati