interesting, so, closely held secret up here on capitol hill, perhaps only secret you cod keepo capitolill, becauses that there is a concern if that number getting out it may convince some to vote no, that is the one firm number we have not heard so far. and closely held secret here at this point. lou: closely held, rare. and stampede probably that is not in prospect until time for recess at the end of next week. mike thank you for your great reporting from capitol hill. >> thank you. lou: president trump looking to fulfill his promise, and close a deal on health care. president trump tonight has dispatched his chief of staff, reince priebus, chief strategist, chief bannon and omb director nick mulvaney to the hill. fox news correspondent john roberts with our report. reporter: republican leader say that fate of new health care bill is in the president's hands, if there is going to be a successful deal, it is up to him to put it together. long haul trucks may have been a metaphor for trump, finding the votes to pass the health care reform has proved to be a long, difficult road. >> i kn

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