some people basically kegley the cost of these as total amount of labor, capital and all that, bank, you calculate, index subtracted from output, total productivity. but it was not real at the time so they couldn't possibly do it. there are other inputs that were being used up in this, namely its impact on air quality and eventually of course on the very careful balance, ecological balance of the planet. as we go back and start calculating the possible costs of global warming, we just take that out as a cost that had to be paid for that wasn't, maybe the total productivity calculation don't look nearly as rosie as that it did in his bar. so that would be true for almost anything. so antibiotics, grea, great inv, people live longer, fantastic. what wasn't realized at least adequate at the time was antibiotics were built in mechanism because it can to become ineffective and we have to run faster and faster to stay in place. so again these calculations look a bit dicey to me, and lots of growth in the next 50 years will be to some extent to pay the costs this generation didn't pay, in p

candy: mary lincoln's dressmaker, elizabeth kegley, she once observed that if a woman wanted to get into great disfavor with mary lincoln she should pay president lincoln a compliment. and julia did that on one occasion. at city point late in the war. and mary was very unhappy about that. and it set the tone for their whole experience together in the last days of the war. susan: she had a long memory. before i leave my planet metaphor, you used a metaphor for these generals. i wanted to share that. the two generals who had the difficult careers were meteors and the two, sherman and grant that were successful, were stars. what did this metaphor mean to you? candy: what i tried to say was that fremont and mcclellan burst on the scene in the civil war as meteors. they climbed high in the public sight. they created huge light and chaos and then they disappeared from sight. in a short time. where sherman and grant were more like stars. in twilight, you don't see them too much but as things get darker and darker, they get brighter and brighter. and they essentially led the path home. susan: we