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why on earth is keir starmer here? >> well, keir starmer is here because he has to be. happened in 2017 when theresa may tried ducking the debates. the reality is that , i debates. the reality is that, i think a lot of parties might somewhat regret this new tradition that's been in place since 2010. but there's no ducking it. it's part and parcel of the election campaign now, and he'd look for it if he wasn't here. but of course, he's not as many debates as rishi sunak wanted him to be at rishi wanted a debate every single week because traditionally , the week because traditionally, the underdog has more to gain from these debates, and the person in front has much more to lose. so for keir, it's a traditional performance of carrying that ming vase across the slippery floor. and for rishi, he's really going to be biting and tackling starmer on every point of contention. he's got a problem, though, hasn't he, mr sunak, if he interrupts too much, he looks a bit preppy, a bit keen to get involved a bit. >> the school boy, the head boy, not the head teacher. how does he mana

keir starmer perhaps the nerves a bit, keir starmer perhaps the nerves a bit. there's— keir starmer perhaps. fearfui— bit, there's more at stake for him. fearful that — bit, there's more at stake for him. fearful that that big lead in the opinion— fearful that that big lead in the opinion polls might shrink. it hasn't — opinion polls might shrink. it hasn't in _ opinion polls might shrink. it hasn't in the first couple weeks of this campaign. for rishi sunak perspective you needs a game changer in this— perspective you needs a game changer in this campaign so far everything he's tried — in this campaign so far everything he's tried would appear as not work. he also— he's tried would appear as not work. he also needs to convince his own side, _ he also needs to convince his own side, marry— he also needs to convince his own side, many who are very nervous about— side, many who are very nervous about the — side, many who are very nervous about the prospect of losing seeds that he _ about the prospect of losing seeds that he still got fight in him. but there's— that he still got fight in him.

keir starmer is talking about is predicated - this time, everything keir starmer is talking about isis talking about is predicated on growth and _ is talking about is predicated on growth and growth _ is talking about is predicated on growth and growth needs - is talking about is predicated onl growth and growth needs regular is talking about is predicated on - growth and growth needs regular to reform. _ growth and growth needs regular to reform. planning— growth and growth needs regular to reform, planning reform, _ reform, planning reform, infrastructure _ reform, planning reform, infrastructure reform. - reform, planning reform, . infrastructure reform. none reform, planning reform, - infrastructure reform. none of reform, planning reform, _ infrastructure reform. none of these things— infrastructure reform. none of these things come — infrastructure reform. none of these things come quickly, _ infrastructure reform. none of these things come quickly, they— infrastructure reform. none of these things come quickly, they take - things come quickly, they take years and years _ thing

i think— keir starmer has much of that. i think the — keir starmer has much of that.now, there is still a little of ambiguity there _ there is still a little of ambiguity there in— there is still a little of ambiguity there in how they will raise funds, and i'm _ there in how they will raise funds, and i'm disappointed, personally, that they— and i'm disappointed, personally, that they have not been more aggressive with their tax policy, perhaps— aggressive with their tax policy, perhaps we would see a little more in the _ perhaps we would see a little more in the manifesto. we are talking about— in the manifesto. we are talking about income on tax, national insurance. _ about income on tax, national insurance, and several working people. — insurance, and several working people. so _ insurance, and several working people, so perhaps we'll see the rich targeted a bit more tomorrow. yes, _ rich targeted a bit more tomorrow. yes. and _ rich targeted a bit more tomorrow. yes, and jenny, rich targeted a bit more tomorrow. yes, andjenny, i guess rich targeted a bit more tom

keir- care, rishi sunak? yes. keir starmer? — care, rishi sunak? yes. keir starmer?starmer? no. if— care, rishi sunak? yes. keir starmer? no. if a _ care, rishi sunak? yes. keir starmer? no. if a loved - care, rishi sunak? yes. keir starmer? no. if a loved one| care, rishi sunak? yes. keir- starmer? no. if a loved one was on a waitin: starmer? if a loved one was on a waiting list, starmer?. if a loved one was on a waiting list, absolutely no? _ starmer? no. if a loved one was on a waiting list, absolutely no? no. - starmer? no. if a loved one was on a waiting list, absolutely no? no. i- waiting list, absolutely no? no. i don't use private _ waiting list, absolutely no? no. i don't use private health, - waiting list, absolutely no? no. i don't use private health, i - waiting list, absolutely no? no. i don't use private health, i use i waiting list, absolutely no? no. i| don't use private health, i use the nhs _ don't use private health, i use the nhs. ~ , . ~ don't use private health, i use the nhs. ~ , ., . ., nhs. we will be back to the election in a moment. _ nhs.

let's start with sir keir starmer . so if we with sir keir starmer.a little show of hands on that one bloke thought that. okay. all right. okay rishi sunak. right. and there's a couple of. oh, now this is interesting because there's a couple of chaps on the front row here who you presumably just didn't think. didn't think that anybody won. he did mention something to me whilst we were watching it earlier, that every time rishi sunak opens his mouth, you think he's lying? so we'll get the microphone over to him very, very shortly. now what i will say to you as well is that very shortly we're going to be going to what's called the spin room. okay. for some of that live reaction with our gb news political editor christopher hope . he's right in christopher hope. he's right in amongst it. and over the course of this hour, fingers crossed . of this hour, fingers crossed. what we're hoping to get is him with johnny mercer as well, who is a tory minister. wes streeting we think we might be getting and jonathan ashworth and a couple of others. so we're going

and keir starmer.naire in the socialist between you and keir starmer.— billionaire in the socialist between you and keir starmer. i don't know if i would call _ you and keir starmer. i don't know if i would call it _ you and keir starmer. i don't know if i would call it a _ you and keir starmer. i don't know if i would call it a courtship. - you and keir starmer. i don't know if i would call it a courtship. i - if i would call it a courtship. i did go to dinner with tony blair and keir starmer injanuary, but i after about two months ago i was completely vote lists and my thoughts on labour historically were very negative and what i've seen now, the more and more i have looked at labour is a transformation and a transformation that looks like mostly the exact direction i would want a political party to go in. keir starmer hits the spot with a lot of issues and looking after young people, his whole attitude to sorting out the labour party and making it, i don't know whether the expression is more right w

sir keir: wealth creation is a number one priority.is our core business, the only route for improving the prosperity of our country and living standards. chris: not everyone in your was convinced. it was an early departure for her, as sir keir responded. the labor leader said his own of bringing said he understood the reality of many families lives. sir keir: i know what it is like to bring your mates home because the carpets are so bare and the windows cracked. i was actually responsible for that, because i threw the football. [laughter] chris: and he emphasized his promise on tax. sir keir: we will not raise income tax, we will not raise natural -- national insurance, that is a manifesto commitment. [applause] chris: but what about other taxes, i thought? i will ask him about that later. sir keir: and another thing, because there may be some people here today who say, where is the supply? where is the rabbit out of the hat? to which i say, if you want politics -- chris: that a joke at nigel farage's expense paid this was keir starmer

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keir starmer said. _ tax me in this way, and keir starmer said. that _ tax me in this way, and keir starmer rise that is taking away tax _ said, that is not a tax rise that is taking away tax break. _ said, that is not a tax rise that is taking away tax break. one - said, that is not a tax rise that is - taking away tax break. one option he could _ taking away tax break. one option he could have _ taking away tax break. one option he could have is — taking away tax break. one option he could have is taking _ taking away tax break. one option he could have is taking away— taking away tax break. one option he could have is taking away other - taking away tax break. one option he could have is taking away other tax . could have is taking away other tax breaks _ could have is taking away other tax breaks that— could have is taking away other tax breaks. that could _ could have is taking away other tax breaks. that could raise _ could have is taking away other tax breaks. that could raise some - breaks. that could raise some revenue _ breaks. that could raise some revenue. that _ breaks. that co

what, keir starmer said in you. what, keir starmer said in response to the junior doctors question.t your reaction from it here? as a former labour party adviser, let's hear from who is currently the leader of the opposition anyway , but are you going to pay anyway, but are you going to pay them more because you've said that you won't meet their pay claims? >> well, the doctors say they want 35. and i've had to say we don't know. >> we want a path to pay restoration. >> so i get that. but again , i >> so i get that. but again, i want to be straight about terms. >> yeah. and we're looking to make that 35% thing is not pay progression conditions. >> and all of that can be negotiated on the 35, i don't think we can afford that as a country because of the damage that's been done to the economy. i don't want to pretend to you that we can. i'll sit down in a room and negotiate and find a way through this, just as has happenedin way through this, just as has happened in other countries, because it's intolerable that we go on. but i'm not going to start with the proposition that we simply a

it is true that keir- the job. it is true that keir starmer's _ the job.tarmer's approvals have i the job. it is true that keir- starmer's approvals have gone up during _ starmer's approvals have gone up during the — starmer's approvals have gone up during the campaign— starmer's approvals have gone up during the campaign but- starmer's approvals have gone up during the campaign but it's - starmer's approvals have gone up during the campaign but it's alsol during the campaign but it's also fair to— during the campaign but it's also fair to show— during the campaign but it's also fair to show that _ during the campaign but it's also fair to show that neither- during the campaign but it's also fair to show that neither of- during the campaign but it's also fair to show that neither of them j fair to show that neither of them are locked — fair to show that neither of them are locked by— fair to show that neither of them are locked by the _ fair to show that neither of them are locked by the public. - fair to show that neither of them are locked by the public.

keir starmer, _ coverage. the pulls moved briefly. keir starmer, he's _ coverage.lls moved briefly. keir starmer, he's been leader - coverage. the pulls moved briefly. keir starmer, he's been leader for| keir starmer, he's been leaderfor quite a long time now, one of the things that people say about him is they still don't know what to labour wants to do and what keir starmer stands for. one of the big things that the tories day about labour �*s they have not got a plan. you think the main thing he will want to get out to say, we have got a plan, here is what it is. to be fair to labour, they spent quite a lot of time laying it out. so there's a risk for rishi sunak that he walks into a punch there and says they've told you nothing and keir starmer goes well, let me tell you all the things that i want to do.— that i want to do. how do you craft an answer— that i want to do. how do you craft an answer for— that i want to do. how do you craft an answer for the _ that i want to do. how do you craft an answer for the leaders - that i want to do. how do you craft an ans

sir keir said, "hang on."working, why are record numbers still coming under your watch, prime minister? how on earth can you say it's working? labour want more return agreements, which rishi sunak took the mickey out of. iran, syria, afghanistan. so when keir starmer says he's going to return people, is he going to sit down, are you going to sit down with the iranian ayatollahs? are you going to try and do a deal with the taliban? it's completely nonsensical, what you are saying. next, the economy and rishi sunak returning to a favourite theme. i say that the labour party's policies will mean all your taxes are going to go up by thousands of pounds. it is in their dna. mark my words. your pension, your council tax, your home, your car — you name it, they will tax it. well, pensioners are not going to be better off with a prime minister who's making promises that he can't keep because they're not funded. that's exactly what liz truss got wrong. there's one thing that we cannot repeat at this election — please d

where keir starmer is a _ take that kind of nimble approach where keir starmer is a bit - take thatere keir starmer is a bit slower and i think with the conservative so far behind us, the feeling that conservatives have much to lose by going forward —— don't have much to lose by going forward in this debate. �* ., ., lose by going forward in this debate. ., ., ~ ., , debate. another man knows the sub'ects debate. another man knows the subjects in _ debate. another man knows the subjects in advance, _ debate. another man knows the subjects in advance, subjects, l debate. another man knows the l subjects in advance, subjects, the moment and the feel of the labour and conservatives no and would prefer to be speaking about something?— prefer to be speaking about something? prefer to be speaking about somethin: ? , ., ., , something? interviews of the leaders earlier this week _ something? interviews of the leaders earlier this week that _ something? interviews of the leaders earlier this week that rishi _ something? interviews of the leaders earlier this week that rishi sunak - earlier

pushed keir starmer on whether he refused to put up taxes, keir starmer— refused to put up taxes, keiren a hinting... crosstalk west streeting is _ that was even a hinting... crosstalk west streeting is rolling _ that was even a hinting... crosstalk west streeting is rolling his _ that was even a hinting... crosstalk west streeting is rolling his eyes. i west streeting is rolling his eyes. i've been talking to two audience members and they both say that they're not impressed with the offering that has been made. principally, certainly in terms of rishi sunak, there's since there been so many problems. also, uncertainty about where the country would be heading if keir starmer was prime minister. how do you deal with that since that there is an apathy and a loss of trust in politics? let me come back to james answer your question. _ me come back to james answer your question. clive _ me come back to james answer your question, clive. what— me come back to james answer your question, clive. what that _ me come back to james answer your question, clive. what that audio i question, clive. w

what would ou circular keir starmer said no. what would you assess _ circular keir starmer said no., ~ ., debate? quite aggressive. more a: aressive debate? quite aggressive. more aggressive than _ debate? quite aggressive. more aggressive than i've _ debate? quite aggressive. more aggressive than i've seen - debate? quite aggressive. morel aggressive than i've seen before. debate? quite aggressive. more - aggressive than i've seen before. of aggressive than i've seen before. of course _ aggressive than i've seen before. of course it— aggressive than i've seen before. of course it is, — aggressive than i've seen before. of course it is, it's one—on—one. i think— course it is, it's one—on—one. i think that's _ course it is, it's one—on—one. i think that's the difference. when you have — think that's the difference. when you have debates with more people it does dilute _ you have debates with more people it does dilute that intensity. here you've — does dilute that intensity. here you've got them up against each other, _ you've got them up against each other, the — you've got them up

keir starmer about - the open to let voters get to know the real keir starmer about somei the real keirr starmer about some of them would be put off and - the real keir starmer about some of them would be put off and maybe i the real keir starmer about some of. them would be put off and maybe it's putting _ them would be put off and maybe it's putting them — them would be put off and maybe it's putting them off— them would be put off and maybe it's putting them off but _ them would be put off and maybe it's putting them off but it's _ them would be put off and maybe it's putting them off but it's not- them would be put off and maybe it's putting them off but it's not making i putting them off but it's not making enough _ putting them off but it's not making enough to — putting them off but it's not making enou:h. ., , ._ putting them off but it's not making enou:h. ., , ., enough. to this day, with some of the voters — enough. to this day, with some of the voters out _ enough. to this day, with some of the voters out there, _ enough. to this day, with some of the voters out there, i _ e

who is the real keir starmer is? who is the real keir starmer?— keir starmer is? rishi sunak, again — you will also see rishi sunak, again, with his scatter—gun splurging out these desperate promises with no idea how he will pay for— promises with no idea how he will pay for them. £70 billion worth of promises — pay for them. £70 billion worth of promises. the only way he is going to fund _ promises. the only way he is going to fund that — promises. the only way he is going to fund that is putting up tax or mortgages going up againjust like happened with liz truss. jellinek i'm sure — happened with liz truss. jellinek i'm sure he — happened with liz truss. jellinek i'm sure he will have his own answers— i'm sure he will have his own answers to _ i'm sure he will have his own answers to that point when he takes to the _ answers to that point when he takes to the debate floor. i want to pick up to the debate floor. i want to pick up on _ to the debate floor. i want to pick u e ., ., to the debate floor. i want to pick up on that point to 'ust a little bit more. * up

keir starmer then stands up, jacket off, sleeves rolled up.ipted from their point of view because their number one thing is do not make a mistake. and let's hear keir starmer, the labour leader, delivering some of that script. we have a plan in this manifesto, a total change of direction, - laser—focused on our cause — stability, growth, _ investment and reform. a government back in- the service of your family, ready to change britain. so i make no apologies - for being careful with working people's money and no - apologies for ruling out tax rises on working people. so let me spell it out. we will not raise income tax. we will not raise . national insurance. we will not raise vat. that is a manifesto commitment. applause. so that's how it looked and sounded just in terms of some of the numbers, there's the costings chart. yes, very detailed. yeah, and so i'lljust read it out. i've got a screengrab of it here. so revenue from closing further, non—dom tax loopholes — so that's people who live in the uk but make earnings abroad and don't pay the

is that not a problem for keir starmer ? starmer? >> it's not a problem for keir starmer.wife maybe, probably. >> or his wife maybe, probably. >> we do not want a situation. we do not want a situation clearly, where men can pretend to be women in order to gain access to safe spaces where women are properly protected. that's the harm that this whole debate is really addressed at. and what we need to ensure is that women have safe spaces, whilst at the same time recognising there are a small number of people whose gender is not clear . even at birth, there not clear. even at birth, there are small number of people who psychologically, at a certain stage in their lives , change in stage in their lives, change in those circumstances. we need to have some sensitivity about this debate. it is not a debate where we should be sloganising. >> so. so look, i mean, i'm going to be much more simplistic. i sort of agree with what you're saying, but clearly what you're saying, but clearly what keir is doing is chasing what keir is doing is chasing what he thinks, where he thinks popular

it's obvious keir starmer what is interesting their— keir starmer what is interesting their electionather and you might think i'm a 180,000 people a month that are more satisfied _ 180,000 people a month that are more satisfied with the service they are getting _ satisfied with the service they are getting from the nhs, that is pretty good, _ getting from the nhs, that is pretty good, but _ getting from the nhs, that is pretty good, but if you look at it from the other— good, but if you look at it from the other end — good, but if you look at it from the other end of— good, but if you look at it from the other end of the pipe, the nhs sees about— other end of the pipe, the nhs sees about a _ other end of the pipe, the nhs sees about a million people every day, monday— about a million people every day, monday to — about a million people every day, monday to friday. so from that perspective, 40,000 a week feels like a _ perspective, 40,000 a week feels like a bit _ perspective, 40,000 a week feels like a bit of a drop in the ocean. it like a bit of a drop in the ocean. it shows— like a

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keir starmer said, university tuition fees? keir starmersaid, i have university tuition fees?e a choice, a political choice, that is what leaders do. i made a choice to spend that money on bringing down nhs waiting lists. for rishi sunak, pressure on the conservative record in government. are you not embarrassed, he was asked, that you are the last of five prime ministers during this period of conservative rule? but then he was asked towards the end by a young women in the audience, why is it your thinking possibly a pulling out of the european court of human rights? rishi sunak said, i disagree with you. to which the women said, i was asking a question, you're misrepresenting me. what did the audience say? shame. what misrepresenting me. what did the audience say? shame. what about rishi sunak's _ audience say? shame. what about rishi sunak's response, _ audience say? shame. what about rishi sunak's response, he - audience say? shame. what about. rishi sunak's response, he addressed those allegations about betting. what did he say about that? this those allegations about bett

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actually having a laugh at sir keir starmer's expense when sir keir starmer's expense when sir keir starmer'sir keir starmer talked about returns agreements, rishi sunak said what are you going to do? how are you going to return people to afghanistan? are you going to do a deal with the taliban? and people laughed. so today i got to speak to sir keir starmer and i asked him how they expect to stop these crossings without a deterrent, let's see what he had to say when i suggested to him that the prime minister says labour will surrender our borders. >> i'm not going to take lectures from rishi sunak about our borders. record numbers of people are coming here in small boats. he's lost control of our borders , literally lost control. borders, literally lost control. not only of the numbers that are coming, but also who's coming. and so this is not just a border issue, it's a national security issue, it's a national security issue . the deterrent is smashing issue. the deterrent is smashing the gangs that are running this vile trade so that nobody, but nobody gets into a boat to cross the channel

clearly for keir starmer it is a weak spot for i keir starmer it is a weak spot for him _ keir starmerot for him he— keir starmer it is a weak spot for him he is— keir starmer it is a weak spot for him. he is trying to attract, of course — him. he is trying to attract, of course he _ him. he is trying to attract, of course he himself is one of the main components— course he himself is one of the main components in parliament for a second — components in parliament for a second referendum. he doesn't hide the fact_ second referendum. he doesn't hide the fact that he is a remain but every— the fact that he is a remain but every time _ the fact that he is a remain but every time he is asked about it he is categorical that he does not want towin— is categorical that he does not want tojoih the — is categorical that he does not want tojoin the eu and does not want to bring _ tojoin the eu and does not want to bring back— tojoin the eu and does not want to bring back freedom of movement. however. — bring back freedom of movement. however, overthe bring back freedom of movement. however, over

keir starmer himself, sir keir said today that you're allowed to change your mind.was saying i don't want to diss prince king charles. i think a constitutional monarchy is the best model , constitutional monarchy is the best model, as mike was alluding to in today's troubled world, because we don't choose them. >> and that's why it's genius, isn't it? >> because it's just continuing whether we like it or not. but if you look around europe at the moment and you look further around the globe, we could be as in divisive times. and i'm fast turning into an anarchist as june the 4th, july the 4th approaches. we could need that rock. that's that's absolutely i do you agree? >> well, listen, folks, i wish we could talk for longer. it's been such a busy show. my friday friends delivering, as always. emma woolf mike parry, liz kershaw i'm back tomorrow at 9:00 for mark dolan tonight. we've got a busy weekend lined up. my big opinion. my take at ten mark meats and much more. but patrick's next. see you in two. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather

sir keir into labour's trap.ir keir starmer says jeremy corbyn would have made a better prime minister than boris johnson. he was facing a grilling from members of the public alongside rishi sunak sarah dyke vie and john swinney at last night's bbc question time leader special in york. the labour leader says he's now changed the party and claims it's clear to see the chaos that happens under a conservative government >> the choice at the last election before the electorate was not a good choice. you had bofis was not a good choice. you had boris johnson , who won and then boris johnson, who won and then three years later was thrown out of parliament for breaking the rules that jeremy corbyn, who is now expelled from the labour party. that's why i have been so determined to change the labour party and to make sure that that change labour party puts forward a credible manifesto for growth so that at this election there will be a real choice between carrying on with the failure of the last 14 years, or turning the la

keir starmer himself, sir keir said today that you're allowed to change your mind.was saying i don't want to diss prince king charles. i think a constitutional monarchy is the best model , constitutional monarchy is the best model, as mike was alluding to in today's troubled world, because we don't choose them. >> and that's why it's genius, isn't it? >> because it's just continuing whether we like it or not. but if you look around europe at the moment and you look further around the globe, we could be as in divisive times. and i'm fast turning into an anarchist as june the 4th, july the 4th approaches. we could need that rock. that's that's absolutely i do you agree? >> well, listen, folks, i wish we could talk for longer. it's been such a busy show. my friday friends delivering, as always. emma woolf mike parry, liz kershaw i'm back tomorrow at 9:00 for mark dolan tonight. we've got a busy weekend lined up. my big opinion. my take at ten mark meats and much more. but patrick's next. see you in two. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather

we were talking about keir starmer. keir starmer not being able.vate health to rescue, to help save somebody in his family , somebody he loves. his family, somebody he loves. who's on a. >> i found that the most . >> i found that the most. >> i found that the most. >> i found that the most chilling moment was the only way you could save them. well, the mask slipped a bit for me. it's a bit like the tax on private schools. it's about putting ideology before people. i'm a big fan of ideology, but at the expense of people that you love. and then being alive. i just found that really chilling, barbara said baby's got no sense of humour or irony. barbara said baby's got no sense of humour or irony . belly laugh. of humour or irony. belly laugh. you'll never see him do that, claire says starmer was trying to keep it real with the regular people lol . of course he'd use people lol. of course he'd use private health care. who wouldn't? i'm poor , but i'd take wouldn't? i'm poor, but i'd take out a loan if i needed to get private treatment. well, that's wha

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sir keir starmer history. sir keir starmer unveiled his party's key policies earlier , identifying policies earlier, identifying wealth creation as the number one priority and ruling out a return to austerity. now, after he was briefly interrupted by a protester, sir keir rejected rishi sunak's allegations of higher taxes, insisting there would be no new rises under a labour government. other than those in their manifesto . those in their manifesto. >> i don't believe it's fair to raise taxes on working people when they're already paying this much , particularly in a cost of much, particularly in a cost of living crisis . so let me spell living crisis. so let me spell it out. we will not raise income tax. we will not raise national insurance. we will not raise vat . that is a manifesto commitment i >> however, chancellor jeremy hunt disagrees, describing it as a tax trap. manifesto and chief secretary to the treasury laura trott disagrees with labour's numbers, insisting keir starmer's promises will mean highe

bought keir starmer, is it reassurance?bour don't win anywhere near as many elections as the conservatives. absolutely, and when i say safety first, what i mean is he wants to ensure that people who are as it stands intending to vote labour and pats telling pollsters that, don't have second thoughts over the next week and it is of course worth bearing in mind that election day is notjust bearing in mind that election day is not just election bearing in mind that election day is notjust election day any more and a lot of people in the country might have already voted by post so there is that extra dimension to it that people might be pulling out that postal form tomorrow morning straight after watching this debate and every moment matters now for these two leaders. to and every moment matters now for these two leaders.— these two leaders. to mention the olls and these two leaders. to mention the polls and let _ these two leaders. to mention the polls and let me _ these two leaders. to mention the polls and let me ask _ these

, keir starmerwas winning.at keir starmer one, anyway, but he only needed to not collapse and he is so far ahead that that counts as a victory. i would agree with that assessment. the snap— would agree with that assessment. the snap poll gave a distinctive need _ the snap poll gave a distinctive need for— the snap poll gave a distinctive need for keir starmer. the discomfort that the prime minister felt about trying to defend the government's record was apparent. i think at— government's record was apparent. i think at times he got a little bit shirty— think at times he got a little bit shirty about it, and the apology did not handle — shirty about it, and the apology did not handle that particularly deftly and even — not handle that particularly deftly and even though you're broadcasting to the _ and even though you're broadcasting to the nation, what is happening with the — to the nation, what is happening with the audience, the audience reaction — with the audience, the audience reaction can be an important

keir starmer _ a3 of them to be holidays. really? keir starmer hates _ a3 of them to be holidays. so goodbye everybody. goodbye, laurel. no one thinks of the journalists, _ goodbye, laurel. no one thinks of the journalists, do _ goodbye, laurel. no one thinks of the journalists, do they? - goodbye, laurel. no one thinks of the journalists, do they? am - goodbye, laurel. no one thinks of the journalists, do they? am sure | the journalists, do they? am sure the journalists, do they? am sure the have the journalists, do they? am sure they have holidays. _ the journalists, do they? am sure they have holidays. thank- the journalists, do they? am sure they have holidays. thank you - the journalists, do they? am sure | they have holidays. thank you you very much. they have holidays. thank you you very much-— they have holidays. thank you you ve much. ., �* _, .,, very much. you're welcome. pleasure. newscast from — very much. you're welcome. pleasure. newscast from the _ very much. you're welcome. pleasure. newscast from the bbc. _ hello. we've seen some unusually windy weather for the t

when you last talked to keir starmer, i speak to keir starmer. >> all the time.him today. >> and how is he? is, he is he up for it? is he full of energy and how long has he been been preparing for this? he's he's in good spirits. >> he's determined. and you know why he's determined? because he knows great britain can be so much better than this. we don't need to have so many people on an nhs waiting list. we don't have to have to have young people priced out of the dream of home ownership. we don't have to have this chaos at our borders. keir starmer has got a plan to fix these problems and make britain great again. >> he'll be challenged by his support in the past. first for jeremy corbyn, that might hurt him. jeremy corbyn is not a candidate in this election. >> liz truss is still a candidate, though, does she? sunak's done nothing about her and she crashed the economy. but look, this is a completely changed labour party and keir starmer's own strength in changing the labour party and he will change the country as well. >> he says change and change is your big

sir keir starmer.s where i was going with the question, and i was completely blindsided, frankly, by his answer. now, i was sitting across from him at the back of the back of that battle bus, the red leather battle bus, the red leather battle bus, the red leather battle bus, and his eyes were welling up and he just said, no, no, no, let me finish here. and he he said he said in terms that when he grew up, his dad was mocked by people for saying he worked in a factory. his dad stopped saying it in polite company. he stopped going out. he withdrew into himself because he felt that people didn't respect him. in the part of surrey he lived in, and that is keir starmer's lived experience of people laughing about his dad. and i think he probably thought that at school . i think thought that at school. i think he probably fought it in the early part of his life. and so when he hears it now on the political stage, even though he's in his early 60s, it cut him to the core. and he said so. and i think you and i

so, keir, aren't you?ould you do with the bibby stockholm and the asylum seekers on board if you're prime minister? >> well, the thing we need to do in relation to asylum seekers is to make sure that we stop people climbing into boats on the northern coast. >> what would you do with the barge that's moored off portland , currently housing a couple of hundred asylum seekers? what would you do with that? >> that is evidence of the failure of the government. they are using barges. they're using hotels. it's costing the taxpayer. absolutely. >> would you get rid of it? we cannot go online. would you get rid of the barge at the moment? >> what's happening is the as i say, i don't actually immediately know off the top of my head who that reporter was, but they've done a stellar job. but they've done a stellarjob. >> they're quite enjoyed the level of sass of would you get rid of the barge that? would you get rid of the barge? but the barge, you know, bar, the bar. but yeah, what about the barge? john >> it's tri

she's a showing keir up . showing keir up. >> not at all.l, she makes it clear whilst the threat exists, we are fully committed to our trident programme. but in the future the aim would be international, multilateral designer that with her saying nothing has changed, who wouldn't want to aim for multilateral disarmament in a in in a utopian world? of course we all would. but she's saying for now it's very clear that labour have a complete commitment to defence, that a nuclear deterrence that is quite clearly a change, because in 2016, along with roughly 40% of labour mps, she voted against renewing trident. be fair, she would face disciplinary action had she not. >> there wasn't a whip. she got to choose because it was not. it was jeremy corbyn realised he couldn't whip his mps to vote against trident, so he left it as a free vote. she chose to vote against renewing trident. have you must have changed or we're not being told the truth? the truth is that your intro wasn't really the truth because you're trying to be fair. >> to be fair, a fai

keir starmer made _ trying to achieve today. keir starmer made a _ trying to achieve today. keir starmer made a point - trying to achieve today. lie: " starmer made a point of trying to achieve today. iie: " starmer made a point of criticising the tory manifesto for what he said was promising lots of things they could not be delivered. he also said he was not here to run a circus and took a swipe at the reform party leader nigel farage. there were not really any new big policies announced today. this was really today about setting out his stall. you can see he has got a picture of himself on it, multiple pictures of himself on it, multiple pictures of himself in the booklet itself, and the main thing he was stressing was really reiterating the changes he wants to introduced as the labour leader. introducing more nhs appointments, for example. recruiting new teachers. before he started we heard case studies of people who were making the case for why they want to do vote labour. we heard from a man who was suffering from cancer, who talked about having to wait longer than he w

why did the other keir starmer, this keir starmer say to the labour party to get elected that there willaid. i will introduce a prevention military intervention act. that doesn�*t sound like the keir starmer who is willing to take military action? it�*s worth reading precisely what i said, i said we wouldn�*t be taking military action if there wasn�*t a sound legal basis for it. that�*s absolutely right, that�*s why all governments now publish their legal advice and it wouldn�*t be fair to put to put our armed forces in a position where they are risking their lives when we have not been assured and assured ourselves it was legal. the second thing i said is that we would have to have an absolutely clear aim and outcome. so that is actually to codify what david cameron actually did, which was to say these are the basics and we need the approval of parliament if it sustained for those basics. it�*s on the record that you oppose the iraq war. that�*s pretty well to codify the current situation. understood, understood. you didn�*t say, but it�*s only fair to say that you marched against the i

keir about devolution. this is also a labour story . keir starmer about devolution.as he not? >> it's also a story about the calibre of politicians. not only have we had a very short serving prime minister of the united kingdom, a very short serving first minister of scotland in humza yousaf, but also potentially a no confidence vote in a very similar way in wales as well. well, well, he cling on. >> will he cling on? gloria de piero thinks so. thank you so much for your time. a pleasure. a former labour mp, gloria de piero, of course. >> well, let's return once again to those d—day commemorative events now taking place today and something which we're very much looking forward to, of course, is the uk armed forces parachute drop in normandy. that's set to take place in just around 20 minutes time. >> so let's cross back to normandy and our reporter, sophie reaper, sophie, we're expecting this parachute drop in, circa 20 minutes. what can we expect ? well, we're currently we expect? well, we're currently still in arromanches, and i have to apologise about the noise. >

keir starmer has arrived. the first _ is happening? keir starmer has arrived.he was greeted by the director—general, who is also here with the director ofjournalism, jonathan munro, who of journalism, jonathan munro, who we ofjournalism, jonathan munro, who we heard from earlier. they are now standing, making chitchat, as they have to, waiting for the other person that is going to be taking part tonight, which causes rishi sunak. keir starmer has gone into the debate. basically they walk up the debate. basically they walk up the stairs you can see year into the university and then they go across a short courtyard, where they walk through, and that goes into the area that we have made into the debate studio. you may have seen some pictures, it is an intimate affair in there. i went in there earlier. around 150 members of the audience who are in there. and then there are two podiums quite close together, it has to be said, and then we will also have mishal husain. the gates have opened, which may be a sign. i am keeping my only row that i can see leading to the u

as sir keir starmer says ? i'll as sir keir starmer says?essex in this pub. i'll ask him those exact questions. why why do you think the pm can't do this? why is he being what's holding him back, the problem he's got the prime minister is he doesn't know where this story ends because george osborne, the former chancellor, says that 40 people, four zero people knew about the date of the election before it was announced . but, we before it was announced. but, we know that the gambling commission has gone to all of the main bookies and said, send us details of anyone who put money in may, before the election was called on the date of the election. and we'll see. we'll check out if they are unked we'll check out if they are linked to rishi sunak. we'll check out if they are linked to rishi sunak . and i linked to rishi sunak. and i think the pm won't know the extent of this problem until that inquiry is finished. and that's why he can't really move and take any firm action until he knows how big the problem is. and he doesn't know it yet. and th