general keith alexander does not buy apples argument.nd the biggest security conference of the world kicks off here in san francisco. we can -- we talked to the symantec ceo on cyber threats. victory for apple in a separate but related privacy battle moving to a court in brooklyn, with the judge ruling that the techtarget does not governmentp the unlocked and alleged terrorist iphone. fornt to get to our editor legal coverage to have the latest in new york. first of all, what exactly happened? >> it is the first judge to exhaustively look at this issue. they said the demands were excessive by the government, and has now said this can be to lunch. this will not have a direct on the california terrorism case that will be in the public domain and will influence thinking about it in the higher court where these issues are likely to go forward. is this case similar and different to the california case? >> we are trying to decide how much security is essential, and does an invention of visual privacy trump that national security -- and does in

keith alexander is with me and eric schmidt from google. we are talking about this and he says what he doesn't understand how powerful it is you can run algorithms against it and relationships and it goes on and on. he says that's all true but we don't do that. all we get to to say that any of do this they did any of the numbers call that one sex >> host: no one believes me when i said in the middle that google and amazon particularly together a long with some other companies like this now a lot more about you and what you buy and what sites you visit and so forth. >> guest: than co. than the public discussion got worse. i would say consistently even after someone may try to explain this have tried to explain this to them they would say consistently if they really get interested in who's calling that number they can simply get the content of the call and my explanation is that as a violation of the law in the united states and of the physics. you can't do that. it's not possible. >> host: let me turn you to another subject of waterboarding

keith alexander is with me, and eric smidt from google is there. he says you have to understand how powerful metadata is, and keith and i go, that's true, eric, but we don't do that. all we get to do is say, did now of those numbers call that one? >> host: nobody believed me when i said that google and amazon particularly together, along with the -- other companies like this that manage data know a lot more about you and what you buy and what sites you sift and so forth than the u.s. government does. >> guest: jim, then the public discussion got even worse. a lot of folks who should know better, who would say, consistently, even after someone may have tried to explain this to them. would say consistently, and then, and then, if they really get interested in who called that number they can click on the number and get the contents of the call, and my explanation is that's not only a violation of the laws of the united states, that's a violation of the laws of physics. you can't do that. it's not physically possible. >> host: let me turn you to another

but i'm on a panel out of aspen, keith alexander is with me, successor, schmitt google is there. saying he doesn't understand how powerful metadata is learn relationships on and on, and keith and i go that's true eric. but we don't do that. [laughter] we say is did that number do this? >> google and amazon particularly along with, you know, saving companies like to manage data, know a lot more about you and what you buy, and what sites you visit and so forth than the u.s. government does. >> and jim and then the public discussion got everyone worse. a lot of folks should know better who say consistently, even after someone may have tried to explain this to them, say king thely, and then, and then if they really get interested in who called that number this can schismly click on that number and get contents of the call and my explanation of that is that's not only a violation of the lawsuit in the united states that's a surveillance of the law of physics you can't do that. not physically possible. : let me turn you to another simple, easy going subject waterboarding. >> uh-huh. >>

think it's important to recognize that for the black left, so you're talking about a michelle alexander, a keiths is an opportunity for them to assert themselves as a political wing of our community and say we're not just going to go with the clintons, even though they will support the clintons in the general in is a very sophisticated community. it not just the black vote. >> so quickly this is what i want to bring up. it really breaks down along generational. young voters for the democratic presidential nominee, bernie win business quite a large margin in south carolina. when you look at the choice for democratic nominee, it is an entire li entirely different story in south carolina because hillary wins on pretty much all front. >> that's actually a larger issue that we allow two diverse states in the union to set tone on both primaries. i think that's a big mistake and problem. >> van jones? >> i agree. i think that secretary rail should learn that younger voters -- >> you have 20 seconds. >> younger voters black and white need to hear a more inspirational message from her period. >> van jone

, no injuries reported after the storm rolls through alexander county, cleveland county, and catawba county, let's go back out to meteorologist keith monday to find out where the storm is right now and the areas that need to be prepared as it's approaching. >> west charlotte from the vicinity through paw creek, the heavy rain is pushing in for now. mecklenburg county is under a severe thunderstorm warning. not a tornado warning but a severe thunderstorm warning until 1:15. that heavy line of rain extending from lake wiley through belmont mcadenville toward mount holly, we're looking at the line racing to the east. a big line of rain works through. pour. this is moving through uptown charlotte here. right around 12:26. so four minutes, four or five minutes from right now. you should see this come through around 12:28. and unc charlotte around 12:31. maybe heading to class, unc charlotte, may let this thing pass by. today. within the next 20 to 30 minutes this line will pass through the city. once this line passes by, that's likely going to be it. but these storms have a history of wind damage coming on through we've had reports thro