as we mentioned, one of the drags there larry glazer from mayflower advisers is with us today, keith bliss and rick santelli checks in from the cme in chicago keith, what is do you make of this we had that bounceback yesterday and now we're kind of hovering here is retail a plus or a minus for stocks overall do you think? >> it's definitely a mine us it's no secret if you look at retail, the bricks and mortar retailers being down but yet the transport companies are starting to rally back a little bit airlines got oversold and if you lock at some of the parcel service companies like ups and fedex, they are doing okay, and i think the two are somewhat linked together. when you talk about retail and how it will be a drag on the market, and it will be for some time, again, the bricks and mortar retailers, but then you take a look at the online retailers as courtney was talking about, they are doing well and that's a direct reflection inside the transport companies who take the look. the market, broadly speaking, bill, we got very oversold short term last thursday when he had the washout on the