but we're not seeing the real movers, the nasdaq and the other markets. >> keith boykin, i'm going to give you the last word. it just looks to me -- keith, i've been very kind to your man since re-election because i hoped they could make a deal that would not raise marginal tax rates. but after today's press conference, i don't hear entitlements, i don't hear spending restraint and i hear higher marginal tax rates to punish rich people and those who are successful. that's a loser, keith. >> i don't think he's trying to punish anybody, larry. think think there will be a plan that's comprehensive, but his top priority he said today is jobs and growth. that's something i think you would believe in. >> i do believe in that. >> except i didn't hear "growth" in today at all. >> tell me what economic theory -- >> something happened eight days ago. we had an election. >> i know that. >> 120 million people voted. >> tell me this, keith. >> move on. >> one at a time. >> theory says you're going to grow an economy with a $1.6 trillion tax increase. >> you said that about bill clinton in 1993. no

it doesn't make any sense. >> thank you, keith boykin. it's always a pleasure to have you on. thakt you both. >>> they have decided a christian college in virginia can continue with a challenge to president obama's health care law. it once of several decisions the court will make this week including whether to take up several high-profile gay marriages. pete williams joins us. let's start off with the health care. >> they're saying they put up the wrong kind of roadblock to say that it violates religious freedom so they should have another chance to pursue it in the lower courts. it doesn't mean the supreme court is passing one way or the other on the merits. they just think liberty should have another chance so basically start all over and see where that case goes. >> of course, as we mention, zeevl sigss regarding whether to take f the high-profile gay marriage cases. >> right. i think it's a fore gone conclusion the court will agree to hear it. which defines for federal purposes marriage is only between a man and a woman. that means in the nine states that recognize same-se

. >> keith boykin joins us at the table, was set in part by mcconnell saying he wanted to deny obama a second term. that is no longer part of the calculous. so it is mcconnell's thinking change tonight. does that allow some common ground? >> obviously he has that -- he can't do that anymore. i think rick has got partly a point in that, yes, the conservatives should stick with their guns on whatever they want to stick with, but it's not going to be a long-term solution because the american people have said clearly tonight they want the president's policies in place. >> just because the people have said that doesn't mean that's going to get you to the promise land. because as larry has said, there's a division in this country, and the division is that we need a more proactive base. >> the provision was settled tonight with this election, rick. and what the american people said is they want barack obama to continue to be president of the united states. and, yes, they want -- >> so they want less job growth. >> no, that's not what they want. >> they want less capitalism. less entrepreneu

keith boykin, nationally syndicated talk show host and msnbc contributor michael skirmonissh and steve dees is back with us. steve and keith, no fighting today. i'm not in the mood. everyone is tense. we want to know what's going to happen. the lady has put down her heel. i'm not playing with you. let's me start with michael here. michael, let's talk strategy for team romney going into pennsylvania. that is your home state. i believe no one knows it better. what do you make of this last-minute move? >> i understand it only if they think that they're not going to win ohio, and therefore, you got to do something like throw a hail mary in pennsylvania. i'll be really surprised if they can win this state, which no gop presidential candidate has done since '88. my gut tells me it's somewhere between a three and a five-point obama victory in pennsylvania. >> mark, let me bring you in. you're in ohio. you heard michael say very clearly romney is in pennsylvania because they are not not sure about ohio or they are sure that they've lost it. >> an ohio poll done by university of cincinnati came

host keith boykin.rove ushgs going to win some and lose some, you have good years and bad years. is he trying to minimize the sting? >> this was a stunningly bad year. they lost the presidency and lost seats the in the senate and they loth in the house. more people voted for democratic candidates in the house than for republican candidates. the idea that this is not a sign of against their mandate makes no sense. they've got to compromise. they can't just continue doing the same thing if they want to be competitive in the future. >> what's so interesting, lindsey graham was on, and he was talking about immigration. i got to play his comment, and i want your thoughts on the other side of it. let's play it, please. >> it's one thing to shoot yourself in the foot. just don't reload the gun. i intend not to reload this gun whether it comes to hispanic. i intend to tear down this wall and pass an immigration reform bill that's an american solution to an american problem, but we have nobody to blame but ourse

here now is cnbc contributor and democratic vat gist keith boykin, a former clinton white house aide and best selling author and talk show host larry elder, out with a new took, "dear father, dear son." larry already the show talking about the book. there may be a deal on taxes, i have no idea, but i don't hear any reductions in spending. wasn't $1.2 trillion sequester, larry. that seems to be gone, the across-the-board cuts. i want to ask you do you think it's possible that this whole exercise could wind up enlarging government, increasing the entitlement state and not doing what many of us want it to do? >> let me think about that. i've thought about that. unfortunately, larry, you are right. one of the republican favorite exercise according to my friend tom sowell is running for the himpingts after the election republicans believe taxes should be raised on the wealthy but they should not be for two reasons. you should ask people what the wealthy pay in taxes. most people have no idea that 1% pays 40% of the taxes. do no warm, hippocratic oath. the cbo says if you raise taxes on th

we have ruth marcus, columnist for "the washington post," keith boykin, cnbc contributor and hogan bidly who served as communications director for rick santorum's presidential campaign. great to have you here and ruth, petraeus now testifying or will be testifying on capitol hill. does this bring it all back to the original story and the attention and focus where it needs to be about what happened in benghazi, the loss of four american diplomats and away from this salacious sexual scandal. >> i think you answered your own question. i say this with a bit of regret and also a bit of humor, as between dealing with serious substantive questions whether it's benghazi or the fiscal cliff and salacious sexual scandal, i know which we think is going to get the attention and especially this story which is developing into some combination of real housewives of centcom meets "homeland," it's just too sordidly delicious not to have us spending, us in the immediate yashgs spending some time figuring out what in the heck was going on here. i do have to say i really think there are a lot of important q

let's bring in the "newsnation" political pandemic, malika henderson, a stevie wonder panda fan, keith boykinso stevie wonder fan, and not because we're all three people of color. everyone loves stevie wonder. let me put that out. i don't want people to say oh, they just love stevie wonder because of that. we all love stevie wonder. i digress. speaking of race in this race, obama's demographic gamble. it says in part, obama is likely to get blown out among white voters on election day, narrowly lose independents nationwide, and may yet still win. based on historic margins among people that often lean democratic, but don't necessarily vote at high stakes, latinos, african-americans, young people and unmarried women. keith, basic point of this article is that the template, if obama wins, will be one that democrats perhaps will follow for years to come. but you heard there in chris's report in ohio, they believe a white working class voters. but it's an interesting article. what do you make of this template change or demographic change for democrats? >> bill clinton had a word for, this and it's

governor bill richardson, ed schultz and then the gre owe's perry bacon, democratic strategist keith boykintewart. that was the lid of my pen. no big deal. "now" with alex wagner is coming up next. hi, alex. >> hey, thomas. we are waiting on the president and his remarks in the meantime it's a hashtall my 2 k kind of a day as the white house pushes its plans to extend middle-class tax cuts the gop calling out president obama for campaigning while republicans campaign. we will look at the campaign 3.0 with "victory lab" technician and author sasha isenberg. some democrats say it's okay to take a dive. we'll ask senator patty murray why she agrees with that when she joins us and republicans want answers from ambassador susan rice. what are they really asking? we will discuss that when "now" starts in a mere 180 seconds. t - more washington gridlock. no, it's worse -- look, our taxes are about to go up. not the taxes on our dividends though, right? that's a big part of our retirement. oh, no, it's dividends, too. the rate on our dividends would more than double. but we depend on our dividends

"the hill's" amy stoddard and democratic strategist and cnbc contributor keith boykin. mark, let me start with you and look at the map where the candidates are traveling. our colleague, chuck todd, said something this morning regarding polls because we've seen them all over the place. they do have a similar storyline in that governor romney has not been able to pass the president in these battleground states, but he has closed in some. nevertheless, chuck indicates that take a look at the map and where they're traveling. this is going to be -- we already know the states where the race will be won or battle till the bloody end here? >> what seems to be happening for president obama is that he has a firewall in the midwest or at least his campaign hopes that. actually, the election results come on tuesday might very well hinge on whether that firewall truly exists or not. according to our polls that you just showed in iowa, president obama has a lead. in wisconsin, it's a smaller lead. some other public polls suggest that as well. however, the romney campaign has made it

keith boykin nationally syndicated talk show host and msnbc contributor michael skirmonissh and stevees is back with us. today. i'm not in the mood. everyone is we want to kno. the lady has her heel.h you. with michael here. team romney going into pennsylvania. no one knows it what do you make of this last-minute move? >> i understand it only ifp5 going to io pe i'll be really no gop presidential candidate my gut tells methreeh fiveania. >> mark let me bringin. h michael sery clearly romy islv because they aró#e not not sure about ohio or they are sure that they've >> an ohio poll don by university ofati came out yesterday. it's the lasthaddent percenta romney, and that's prettyn ' the republicansó; and democrats have excellent get v side to makege on election day with mr little bit of that vote is 's i'm asked about the auto bailout ador the lastk8 hot button issue. gm and it may in the end be the the working white voters in that state are sfil upset with be the cstate. said t fact is the ad is th fiaamhey were going to china for jeep. that's what the ad says and that's accurate.