let's bring back keith boykin, jim mclaughlin and jennifer stefano.th, everybody hates obamacare. the public hates it, the unions hate t the students hate it. the irs hates it. that's what got them in trouble with the tea party in the first place. the tea party hates it. nobody likes this thing. >> when medicare was introduced first by jfk, only 28% of the public supported that. >> lbj. >> no, jfk, when he first introduced it. lbj was the one who made it into law. but jfk proposed it in 1962, and only 28% supported it. when lbj actually passed the law, only 46% of the public supported it. and now it's overwhelmingly popular. so just because something is unpopular doesn't necessarily mean that it shouldn't be enacted. secondly, in terms of the polls, jim will tell you this, and he's a polster. 90% of the american people support background checks on gun purchases, but that didn't stop republicans from blocking that legislation in the u.s. senate. i don't know if we should use as determination -- >> i don't think there has ever been a point -- four years