you are on with congressman keith ellison.ler: i want you to explain the debt and the deficit difference because people do not understand. i think what we need to do is gerre the voting and the koching, because the brothers and the oil producers own the republican party. they are taking bribes to get what they want and it is making the rest of us suffer. my husband is retired military, 22 years. things need to change up there. the republicans are out for themselves. the democrats work so hard for the people and something has got to be done. guest: thank you. i want totell you, thank you and your husband for -- let me tell you i want to thank you and your husband for your service to our country. my son could not get his tuition assistance. he was not complaining. i was the one asking are you going to enroll in school. he said that tuition assistance is shut down because of the shutdown. and the commissary is shutdown. that is one little 19-year-old soldier. the debt is the accumulated indebtedness of the country. if you add up

go to experian.com. >>> we're back with representative keith ellison and bill kristol.s call a cease fire. >> age before beauty. >> stephanie carter was still in the white house, there website meltdown would not have ham. >> that's great. >> was that appropriate? >> i would like to see a -- >> i'll not sure everybody agrees with that. >> i would like to see a fair, respectful if tough hearing for kathleen sebelius tomorrow. >> i agree with that. >> let me thank you both for being here. go to facebook or twitter to weigh in on our fire back question. will obama care improve your health care coverage. right now 29% of you say yes. 71% say no. >> the debate continues online at cnn doc/crossfire as well as facebook and twitter. from the left. i'm stephanie cutter. >> from the right, i'll newt gingrich. join us tomorrow for another edition of "crossfire." erin burnett "outfront" starts right now. >>> "outfront." spying on manager's best friends. today spies finally went on offense. >> some of this reminds me a lot of the classic movie, casa blanca. my god, there's gambling g

they rallied on the national mall and some hours ago multiple lawmakers including congressman keith ellison charlie rangle raul grijalva luis gutierrez were rest to rally participated lopez was there earlier here's her report. but we are officially and weak. the government shutdown lawmakers just a little bit away from here on capitol hill are still arguing to get even a temporary spending bill passed and this is coming on a time when we're still very close to a default as a result of the debt limit were supposed to reach that in just a few days here but in terms of the national mall every museum here is one of those as a result of that partial government shutdown however that doesn't mean that the mall is completely out of commission behind me is an immigration rally where thousands of people are supposed to be gathering today to tell congress that in the middle of this budget battle and in the middle of this debt crisis there is still an overarching issue that needs to be discussed and that is immigration reform for the eleven million undocumented people that are currently living in this

joining me now is congressman keith ellison, democrat from minnesota.for being here, congressman. >> thank you. thank you, reverend. good to see you as always. >> good to see you. what do you make of this news? they made this offer to the president of extending the debt ceiling while they talked through budget stuff. but keeping the government closed. "new york times" is reporting now the president said no to that offer. >> i think the president's right to hang tough. i mean, we had had a shutdown -- the shutdown rally today in the pouring rain, but still we had about 500 people come on out. and people would come to the microphone talking about the inability to pay for groceries. a man who's a single dad says he may have to go to a homeless shelter with his son. and a young mom says she's struggling and they don't know where they're going to get their rent because they're a two-income family and the family depends on her income. she works for the census bureau. this cynical move where they listen to what wall street says and ignore the hard working peop

joining me is keith ellison of minnesota. congressman, good to have you with us tonight.ese truckers are coming into the beltway and in washington, d.c. now are these the ones that want to see the bridges fixed across america and some infrastructure spending? are these the truckers that like going over very nice roads with federal dollars? i mean, the very people that the republicans have done nothing for are going to washington to disrupt. i want your take on all of this. >> my take on it is that, you know, there's a lot of folks out there who don't know who their friends are, they don't know who is hurting them, they don't know who is helping them. they just get angry on some superficial stuff or something they heard on the radio and they go to sometimes extreme measures. but what they tried to do didn't work, so that's a good thing. but, you know, it's part of the struggle, ed. part of the struggle is, helping people to understand that you need to be on your own side. you need to help yourself out. now, they don't like -- these folks like, as you said, federal highway

. >> keith ellison are called out the role of journalists. let's take a listen. >> the reporters who got to see this data it and run to the wrong conclusion. it is wrong that newspaper reporters have all these documents am a 50,000 or whatever they have and they are selling them and giving them out . this does not make sense. we ought to, with a way of stopping them. >> he is suggesting that journalists are selling these documents and that the publication is harmful to the united states. what is your response? >> i heard no confirmations of selling information and snowden's office has repudiated that information. it is preposterous to think that transparency has heard anyone. if anything has heard anyone it is the nsa's activities. this is cowardly in a democracy and if these programs are as important as they claim and they are compliant with the constitution which they are not they should survive the light of day. it is long overdue for congress to have a transparent debate about whether or not we want to live in a country with pervasive sur

coming up on day 10 of the shutdown, congressman keith ellison will join us. we will talk with the arizona republican david schweiker, a member of the small business committee and later, the conversation on the effect the shutdown could have a national security with john billinger. ♪ ♪ good morning, it's thursday october 10, 20 13. although the federal shutdown has now reached a 10, there are still plenty of news tongue out of washington this morning. treasury secretary jacob lew is set to appear before a senate panel today. he will warn congress about the looming debt ceiling deadline. at the white house today, president obama will meet with the house gop leaders about the budget impasse one day after introducing his pick for the next chair of the federal reserve on wednesday. also wednesday at the pentagon, military leaders announce a new plan to ke

representatives keith ellison of minnesota and a congressman of new york was among those. they posted the photos on twit twitter. >>> remember the road rage attack. >>> a high school is canceling their tribute to trayvon martin. it's what they had planned. it's 6:07 is the time. okay, i need a better pizza. one made with only real cheese. and dough that rises naturally. with no chemical leaveners. a pizza with premium meats. and sauce made from only real tomatoes. a pizza my family will love. (announcer) freschetta naturally rising crust pizza. freschetta. made better to taste better. >>> welcome back. it's 6:10. new this morning, the white house is aboutmo to slash hundrl of millions ofas dollars in in military and economic assistance toy gist. answer announc-- to egypt. >>> john kerry will continue to fill in for president obama. today he will meet with the barnai and a small southeast neighbor. >>> an undercover detective tolt police he didn't arrive at the scene after the driver of the th suv was beaten, but he was seen in the video punching the backba window of the su

then keith ellison then charlie wrangle there. and then congresswoman luis gu tier rest.ll of them got handcuffed and led away today under arrest at this protest. politics have survived the government shutdown. there was fury and anger and multiple arrests over what the congress is not doing as they struggle to try to get things back open. but there was also widespread fury across the country over some things that the government usually does that they have stopped doing right now because of the government shutdown. the interview tonight is somebody who's here live in studio and it is on a subject of such national outrage and upset today that it very nearly unified the entire country. for once, something horrible, but it brought the whole country together. that story is coming up, stay with us. >>> the war in afghanistan turned 12 years old yesterday. we're now at the start of year 13 of that war. we have never before as a nation had a government shutdown during a time of war. we are on new ground here. we do not know exactly -- group who are fighting the war, how it's goi

the eight congressman including john lewis and keith ellison were arrested after they blocked streetstol building on what they called an act of civil diso disobedien disobedience, 200 others arrested. several republican lawmakers also attended the rally and made by bipartisan call for reform. joseph crowley was one of the people arrested at the rally. sir, before we talk about the rally, i want your reaction to the breaking news, the house unanimously voting to pass the -- to make sure the death benefits are given to family members whose loved ones are killed in the line of duty. we saw the five individuals brought back to dover today. 26 killed since the shutdown here. >> yes and it's very sad. i think tamron, that that's what it's come to. the republican shutdown of government has come to this. certainly we should pass this bill and passed it today and the senate will do so very, very soon. it will be signed into law. the reality is, we're now legs lating by headline because of this republican shutdown. we all deserve government and all deserve government working for us. i can tell

republican senator lindsey graham, democratic congressman keith ellison and republican congressman raul labrador. leader among house conservatives. senator graham, let me begin with you, you were working on a deal with democrats and republicans in the senate, it seemed to collapse yesterday, shot down by the democratic leader harry reid. right now, is there any deal that could get through both houses of congress and signed by the president? >> i don't see one. if you break the spending cap you're not going to get any republicans in the senate. what i'm worried a deal comes out of the senate, that compromises speaker boehner's leadership. when this is over, do we really want to compromise john boehner leader of the house? i don't think so. understanding that defunding obama care and delaying for a year is not a realistic possibility now. >> that's a pretty high bar. let me bring that to congressman labrador, the democrats have been absolutely clear that's not going to happen, you don't have a majority for that. >> you know, it seems strange and we're four days away from breaching the deb

this afternoon, national intelligence director, james clapper along with nsa director general keith ellison xander will testify about the nsa surveillance program following recent revelations that the agency spied on foreign leaders and that will be live on c-span three afternoon at 1:00 30. -- at 1:30 p.m.. the mother of trayvon martin is one of the ones testifying on stand your ground defense laws calling for states to qualify their standards which vary and are applied inconsistently. this is live coverage on c-span. >> young trayvon martin sought to defend himself because i strongly suspect that mr. zimmerman could not apprehend any lawful reason for a young black male to walk through his middle-class neighborhood. to mr. zimmerman, the blackness served as a crude roxy for criminality. this unfortunate outcome sends a twofold message. first, it tells floridians they can incorrectly profile lung -- young brack -- young black children, kill them, and be protected by standard ground laws. it sends a more ominous message to young black children for it consider myself fortunate to live in a j

thank you keith ellison for cochairing this important meeting for us. thank you very much and thank you for continuing the meeting no matter what the weather. no matter what the weather. i am honored to be here with them come to with my colleagues in the house of representatives and our witness lawyer who was here mr. rangel and we will have our leadership come out here to join with you to say thank you. thank you for what you do for our country for making sure seniors have their social security checks, that families can put food on the table for their children and veterans can get their benefits. the list goes on and on. you make governance possible in america. we are grateful to you for that. and so we are here to join with you to say open up the government. give us a vote mr. speaker. give us a vote. give us a vote. [chanting] [chanting] >> because there are so many speakers and so much rain i will just say the following. you are wonderful to turn out today in all of this weather. as a mom i don't want you standing out here too long. i don't want you

minnesota democratic congressman keith ellison.t 2:00 on fox news sunday, chris wallace will be talking about -- will be talking with west virginia democratic senator joe mentioned. ofjoe manchin and bob corker tennessee. at three we bring you "state of the union," with guests including kentucky republican senator rand paul. and newt gingrich, former speaker of the house. at four clock, bob schieffer, the host of "faced the nation closed quote will be talking with republican senator kelly ayotte. "faith at the nation -- "face the nation" will be talking with republican senator kelly ayotte. we are online at c-span radio.org. to our free apps for your iphone, android, or blackberry. >> we want to know how the government shutdown is affecting you. messageyour short video about the shutdown and uploaded from your mobile device. see what others are touting about. we are at the hoover house here on the campus of stanford university. this was the primary residence of the hoovers. she was the one who designed it. she had such a strong gra

finally, congressman keith ellison, my democrat colleague and i offered the crop insurance transparency amendment which will require the government to disclose the names of key persons or entities receiving federal crop insurance subsidies. specifically disclosure would be required for members of congress and their immediate families, cabinet secretaries and their immediate families, and entities in which any of the preceding parties are majority stockholders. this information is already recorded, but members of the public have to petition the government under the freedom of information act to acquire the data. it shouldn't take a four-year request for the american people -- foia request for the american people to figure out whether their leaders are receiving government farm subsidies. this bipartisan amendment makes -- makes this information available to the public without a foia request. mr. speaker, we want transparency, and my amendment takes us much closer to that. i appreciate chairman lucas' billing -- willingness to work with me on these amendments and look forward to seeing th

and i want to thank congressman tim bishop and congressman patrick murphy and congressman keith ellison for producing this result. i'll put that there. so are we said yes -- so we said yes to -- we're giving you the votes on something we don't like. we've said we won't do motions to instruct. please take yes for an answer. if you insist on being the party of no, then don't hide behind something and say who won't negotiate. we cooperated. we gave you what you wanted. and now here we are today. republicans are offering yet another motion to keep government shut down. some people call it in the press the supercommittee, others call it the ted cruz committee. whatever you call it, i'd like to know who writes this stuff, this is so ridiculous a proposal, so ridiculous a proposal. how about we go to the budget table and see how we can reduce the deficit, produce growth for our country? but all we're going to do is cut our investments in education and investments in making the future better. we're going to make seniors suffer more while we do not touch revenue. and we will not allow any discus

. >>> right now, though, when congressman keith ellison first took his oath of office in 2007, it wasnly because ellison was the first muslim elected to the u.s. congress, he was sworn in holding a copy of the koran that was owned by thomas jefferson. a new book "thomas jefferson's koran" examines the effect on our nation's founders. the author joins us now. denise, how was it that thomas jefferson came to own a copy of the koran? >> well, he bought the koran in 1765, 11 years before he wrote the declaration of independence. at the time he was a law student. and so his interest in the koran like many other christians was from a perspective of the book as a source for law. but he was clearly also interested in the religion. >> you write that when the constitution was drafted, there was more latitude given to religious differences than those of race, than those of gender as well. why was that? >> well, debates about the constitution also include debates about the issue of the ablution of a religious test. and the question was raised whether a muslim or a catholic or a jew might be presi

. -- keith ellison spoke earlier on the house floor. americans worked very hard to get out of our personal debt. every week, we decide who is going to get paid this week and who has to wait. we live within our means. and we want our government to govern within its means. we do not get the liberty of just borrowing more, or printing more. should raisek they the debt ceiling. obamacare is the unaffordable obamacare. trash it. we need to just quit borrowing. the republicans need to stand their ground. as far as they putting -- we do not need more government jobs. we need more private sector jobs. kick the can down the road. >> let me go to the more immediate deadline. thursday or friday, we reach our credit limit. should lawmakers raise the debt limit, or should we default? >> you know what? you just don't print more. you have to stop sometime. either stop now, or you have to stop later. sometimes, you have to quit borrowing in order to get out of debt. >> thanks for the call. democrats line, your take on all of this. are you with us? we w

looks like keith ellison from this morning, guest on "washington journal." see if we can listen in to what he has to say. >> yes, it's rainy. we wish it was a little nicer outside, but our commitment to getting this government back opened for the people -- who sacrificed for the american people, our public employees, our commitment is such that we'll stand out in the rain, in the sun, in the snow, whatever it takes. we are going to be here. we are not going to back down. we are not going to be scared. we are going to fight, is that right. i want to you know that i'm here, proud to be here with my co-chair, mr. grijalva, and we got members of congress here with you in the rain. letting them know that we are not going to back down. i know one thing, do we have nybody from afge in the house? [cheers and applause] >> do we have anybody from afscme in the house. do we have anybody from cwa in the house? come on now, we got anybody from change to win in the house? we got anybody from the treasury employees union in the house? [cheers and applause] >> who else we g

. >> so there you have republican virginia fox and keith ellison as well.that there is a bipartisan desire to get something done because the anger is mounting. as we have been saying, alex, the pressure is mounting on republicans based on our latest nbc news/wall street journal poll showing the majority of americans putting the blame on republicans. a little bit of good news on this columbus day weekend that the statue of liberty is going to open back up. so is the grand canyon based on a deal between the state and federal government. they have worked out a way to have both those places open up so that folks can go back and start visiting them. so that's one small bright spot while this government shutdown and impasse continues. >> that would be nice on this holiday weekend with the kids having monday off from school. >>> let's bring in dana millbank, good to have you here. what is the biggest obstacle for the republicans and democrats? >> two things, one is whether the republicans can deal with their right flank and finally pacify these guys or ignore them

and i want to thank congressman tim bishop and congressman patrick murphy and congressman keith ellison for producing this result. i'll put that there.

among those arrested were john lewis, keith ellison.re calling for an immigration reform bill that includes a path to citizenship. >> the "new york daily news," an under cover detective will be charged with the road rage pep soed caught on camera in new york city. nbc new york confirms that an under cover officer crunches the suv and shatters a rear window. the ten-year veteran is charged with writing and criminal mischief. the cops are doing that? >> maybe that explains why they department come forward and why the others didn't. sacramento bee. furloughed government workers are back at work at the cdc after 300 cases of salmonella were reported. the outbreak may have originated at the foster farms chicken plant in california. >> the bell fast cetelegraph. they can vote to have an unconditional income for $2800 a mopping for every adult living in the country. they called it a financial safety net and said it will be partially financed through the country's social instruments. >> wow. the l.a. times charges $1.18 milli million. she was f