keith hernandez.: don't you think? you were the one guy everybody loved and nobody ever worried about. you always thought keith hernandez at some point, 6:00 in the morning somebody is going to be like where is keith? mookie wilson never had that issue. >> i think the team -- we had this group over here that was really outgoing. a lot of people called them the exum bunch. [laughter] the other group over here gary carters, ron darling and those guys in the middle like myself and rafael santana that kept it all together. >> jon: and that chemistry? >> yes. >> jon: everybody is talking about this donald sterling, this relationship between a racist owner, sports really is an unusually almost paternal situation with the owner. they can ship you out to another city. do the players feel that relationship? >> i think it's always that weird relationship between players, you know, and management knowing that management does have the last word. it sometimes doesn't matter how well you play. it's about the relati

>> well, the one guy to me was keith hernandez.nandez, he was very intelligent, by they way. he had a little wild streak in him also. >> little. just a little. >> but he was all business. >> and mick jagger likes women some. >> but he was all buzz. i think i was more reserved. i wasn't as much to go to guys and say you ought to do this, you ought to do this. i wasn't that type of guy. i was the one would answer when asked. keith would go to you. he was to us the captain of that club before he was even named captain of the club. because that's what he did. he brought the two sides together. everyone respected keith. he was very, very intelligent. >> mookie, since this book came out you made comments about your role in the history of the mets and the current state of the mets where you called yourself nothing more than a hood ornament for the new york mets. what did you mean by that? >> i think that what i wanted people to understand is when you take one, you know, part of a book and you have to take it in context with the whole book