keith meister -- it's so amazing when i talk about these names. and how fast their assets have grown. and jeff smith, talking about a lot of his new ideas, not to mention was going on at darden. what they've done pretty well. i listen to you for low gasoline prices. >> sometimes you get the wind at your back. you know what i want to be with dupont? notched down friendly. it's not adhomefhominun, david, the acrimony is too great? >> i think it may be a little late for that. depossibility withdrew its offer of with you nominee, at least. they're a month out, this is important. it's only waged one proxy fight in its history, of course with heinz where it was successful so a lot riding on this for them. not to mention, of course an almost $2 billion position in the stock, though they have already done fairly well which goes to the argument that we've had and we've had talked about, of course it can prove more difficult times when a company is doing well to get shareholders to agree that it could be doing even better. >> i look for a mag nam muss situa