our expert is keith raffle, the author of many books and the occasional critics of publishers and book sellers. his latest book is "a fine and dangerous season." john kennedy was at stanford in real life. we'll get to that in in a second, but in the meantime, i got that right, right? that amazon and hashat are in a price war, and in order to punish hashat, they are slowing the delivery of the books? >> yes, but i would characterize amazon.com a website so much as a book retailer. >> fair enough, that you buy on the web. >> so when barnes&noble says to mel, we will not carry your books because they are published by amazon publishing, i don't remember a big story on the front page of "the new york times." >> let me make sure you're not making some ajal jnaloganalogy, get this from barnes&noble because it is published by amazon. >> correct. >> this is just the first time it is coming to light with amazon. >> because now it's on the web. now it's via the internet, but typically to get your book featured at barnes&noble, publishers pay extra money to have it featured. so amazon is saying ri