who was the chief negotiator that's kellam he the trade negotiator formerly doan's hero yeah we had it would in the wake of what he had to say to some. he said the other day when swapping a three course meal for the promise of a packet of crisps but he told us various other things. not just grist for jelly well anderson i just tell you we only don't let's you know the armless one is good because he said you know trying to negotiate this is like trying to take an egg out of a normal it's the jelly one was amazing somebody asked. will the deals that we make after we leave but they make up for the trade that we lose with the european union and with a very spiritual. but with a very straight face he said well you know there's not a huge demand for jelly in the european union we produce more than jelly one of the but he said you know if you can find the top jelly exporting could see they might swap the markets with you for the for the fifty million that they have in the wood up but you know i mean he's pulling our leg fairly severely with a very silly break this year's inaugural like the u.