the board of judges selected kelley hodge to fill the rest of the term of former d.a.h williams, who, as you know, resigned after his corruption conviction. hodge will be the first african-american woman to serve as the city's d.a. when she is sworn in. here's my question -- and hodge is supremely qualified. i don't think there's any doubt about that. but kathleen martin, who recused herself from being in the mix here, has basically been running this office for several months. why not, nelson, just keep her on the job until january, which is not too far away? >> well, it's because of the state requirement that the board of judges has the obligation whenever there's a vacancy to appoint someone. >> so why wouldn't they appoint martin? >> she decided to level herself out. >> let's pretend that she knew she wasn't gonna win. >> well, i think that it was a glass ceiling to be broken, and so we have an african-american woman. we have now, what i call the judicial council, which is known as the clifford scott green judicial council, which is made up of at least 30 african-am