joining us now to talk about both is kelly ann conaway joining us from new york., i am looking at my twitter, and it says that reporter by the name of jonathan karl is reporting that donald trump is offering the vp slot to mike pence. is that true? kelly: i cannot confirm that. if you want to know you have to show up at the hilton are put on a tv 11:00 a.m. tomorrow. >> you are familiar with people on donald trump's shortlist. just give us the case for mike pence. not to say he is the pick, but what does he bring to the ticket? kelly: a couple of things -- he showed the other night at the rally that one can attack the candidacy of hillary clinton, challenge her fitness to be president, but to do it surgically, and methodically, yet passionately. i think mike pence can take a comment by hillary clinton that she made in west virginia, promising to put the coal industry out of business and travel that comment westward through pennsylvania, ohio, indiana, illinois, michigan and iowa. you make them competitive. he has a $2 billion surplus. a lot of infrastructure devel