did general kelly cobbs -- counsel him did general kelly counsel him about the way he uses words? >> general kelly was present for the call and taught it was respectful and the president did the best job he could under the circumstances. mexican negotiators have .ejected the u.s. proposals is nafta debt? >> -- is nafta debt? -- dead? president but the said it was a bad deal and we are going to push forward. >> president trump said that former fbi director protected hillary clinton. he asked where the justice department was on this. what does the president want the justice department to do? the white house have doesn't and won't offer a legal opinion on comey's conduct. deferred anyse has legal questions about director coming to the department of justice. them tohat does he want do? anything on that front will be handled by the department of justice. why did it take nearly two weeks for him to say something about this? oroffer public condolences explain to the american public what happened? >> as i said before, there is a protocol for that. we did make public remarks from the admin

on the other side, the white house chief of staff, john kelly, and white house ty cobb are urging theooperate to get through it as fast as possible. my panel is back. so first to you on this. if the president, again this is just the steve bannon of how to handle the whole situation, if the president takes his advice, would that then be obstruction of justice? >> you mean if he takes his advice to fire mueller? >> no, i'm not going there. but i'm saying not handing over documents, cutting fund go to certain things, things that are pertinent to this investigation that mueller is asking of the white house, if he's fighting him tooth and nail, is that a problem for the president? >> it is a problem for the president. i mean, look, all of the president's actions go to his motive or state of mind in this original obstruction case going back to why he fired comey. okay. that is what the main obstruction case is about. and the question is did he do it with corrupt intent? this is incredibly difficult crime to prove because you have to get into somebody's heart. and if he takes every measure h

. >> so kelly, it's interesting to me that ty cobb feels compelled to make sure the interpretation of donald trump's tweets today do not cross over that line that, that he is not directly commenting on the issuance of the indictments, right? because that's very grave were he to have done that. >> pressured to give us an on the record statement, because how many times have you asked me, is there an official statement, and there hasn't been one. i have urged him to say something we could fully report. what he chose to say is that these tweets are not about the special counsel. i think his intention to that is that he's speaking to the larger political environment in which robert mueller is doing his investigation. cobb, who is interfacing with the mueller team on a regular day-in, day-out basis, certainly would not want to -- this would be my analysis of this, would not want to exacerbate any tensions there, but he is explaining the president's tweets as we have seen so often, the president's own personal megaphone to say what he wants and to try to direct or shape the conversation on t

or a group of people are sitting down with trump in the white house today, hopefully ty cobb, hopefully it's kellyfully it's other lawyers, to put a plan together to say, mr. president, you cannot be tweeting about this. you cannot overreact. as we have seen from john dean. >> how many times has that conversation been had. i think that's asked and answered. >> i know. but this is like a -- >> you're still looking for a pivot. >> if they refer to this as a witch hunt, i think that's a serious mistake. i think, as john dean said, learn from the mistakes in the past. they need to bring in ty cobb and his crew to answer questions on this from now on. this should be a full-fledged formal investigation. and we're not going to comment on it. i think there should be no more tweets about this is costly and expensive, and everyone believes there's no there there. i think they should step back and -- >> i want to mention one thing. >> one thing i wanted to inject. the tweets have worked for donald trump. >> absolutely. >> they are a road map of his mind. and what we see in the tweets are what he really belie

kelly, have you lived in rohnert park for a while? >> just a few years now. >> have you ever had to evacuate? >> no, but my mom did. she was part of the cobb >> is she safe this morning? >> she is. her roommate's daughter is evacuating out of santa rosa to their home now. >> kelly, we were on the phone with another gentleman from rohnert park as well. he was telling us he thought the fire was about two miles away from the city. i know that you can smell it. are you able to see flames where you are? >> yes, actually we can see a glow from our home, so i went out to petaluma hill road and the fire is about a mile up the hill burning. it looks to be slowly down the hill but a mile up petaluma hill road. >> kelly, are there a lot of cars going through the area? is traffic still okay? >> absolutely. you could see what i imagine to be the residents of northeast rohnert park evacuating the hill area because they're back-to-back lined up on lake roberts road and crane canyon road and petaluma hill road is moving very slowly. >> kelly, you sauound very calm cool, and collected right now. i assume that's maybe not how you are feeling. what is your l

kelly's part. i will say it's wishful thinking shared by a number of west wing staffers. i heard that a lot today. i heard that ty cobbhe president's lawyer also has been telling the white house that he expects and hopes that this will be over soon. but i think what you saw with mueller, these indictments was an opening salvo. it was very forceful and he's clearly done a lot of research and is well into his investigation. but as much as these indictments were indictments in their own right, it was also sending a message to other people who he's yet to talk to potentially that he's not messing around. and if you especially look at the manafort and gates charges, russia and collusion is not mentioned, but one of the theories we've heard is that he's sort of getting them on other issues like, for instance, money laundering, with the hope of flipping them or getting them to cooperate in a manner in which they haven't so far, which again could lead to more people and more questions and more sort of surprises like papadopoulos we saw today. >> hey, robert, right quick. you guys wrote tonight they were relieved it wasn't fly

cobb, saying that the president is just continuing his business as usual. he's not getting distracted by this, but then the white house chief of staff, john kelly, said in anerview last night on fox news that the president is distracted. so which is it do you think? >> i think you can argue it's business as usual only in the sense that russia has dogged this president and this white house since almost the very first day. but look, i think he was frustrated. we were told that he is frustrated not because he thinks he did anything wrong but for precisely the opposite reason. he feels like he did absolutely nothing wrong and he doesn't understand why this just won't go away and he keeps on getting dragged down. we reported that this is a gay who lives above the shop, so to speak. he stayed up in his residence longer than usual watching tv, talking to his lawyers, growing frustrated but also sort of thinking in terms of a crisis communications manager, a legal analyst, before coming down to work in the oval office. but then by all accounts while he was there during the day, i heard from people there were a number of meetings and this didn't come up at all in t