in that area and the training division worked very closely then, officer kelly and now inspector kelly dunn working with our mental health advocates to identify what were the extremely positive, as you say, by the perception of not just the officers that went through it but by our mental health advocate partners, what were the positive aspects and what's the necessary training, how can we get that training presented in-house? so a lot of work has gone into that. there is now a 24-hour course developed, which, you know, we're scheduled to begin presenting in february. certainly we can discuss the specifics of that more in depth. i can provide for you what the curriculum is but i don't have that with me here today. >> that's fine. i'm not here to put you on the spot. people have asked about it and why we have public comment and why we're a commission. do you have any idea, chief, maybe we can do it next week but how many officers have gone through that 40-hour training? >> i'd be more comfortable giving those facts if i -- >> could we do that next week briefly through the report so people can