ongoing, is there any basis or any facts to the accusations that broken it saying that most ago is kelly engel turned against his wagner. forces we only have to go into word for it, but this began with precaution, accusing the military withholding supplies, then it choosing the defense ministry on the chair of general stuff, general garage them, open, open competence, then comes as late as accusation. but we also had a statement regarding that said, the war was unnecessary, the russian people have been misled and before that, he wonderful war could turn into a revolution. so he's been up and the idea now you decide to take on the rocks in state and by the near point in personal approach couldn't possibly con russell a lots of fet, those by what he's saying. and what's going on right now. but there is actions mean there is the worry for most sco that this could start to dump and no type of effect that they may be of a disgruntled military officials in other parts of the country that agree with what process can actually have to say. i may be thinking about joining him, perhaps. this much is abso

and it's saying that most ago is kelly engel turned against his wagner forces. we only have to go into word for it, but this began with regards units using the military withholding supplies, then it choosing the defense ministry and the chair of general stuff, general garage involving open competence. then comes this latest accusation. but we also had a statement regarding that said, the war was unnecessary, the russian people have been misled, and before that, he won, the war could turn into a revolution. so he's been up think the idea. now if you decide to take on directions state and by the near within personal approach, can it possibly can ruffle a lot of set those by what he's saying and what's going on right now, but there is actions mean there is the worry for most sco that this could start to domino types of effect that they may be as a disgruntled military officials in other parts of the country that agree with what product actually has to say. and may be thinking about joining him. perhaps this much is absolutely clear. it is certainly cross the mind o

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and it's saying that most ago is kelly engel turned against his wagner forces. we only have to go into word for it. but this began with regards units using the military withholding supplies, then a choosing the defense ministry, and the chair of general stuff, general garage involving open competence, then comes as late as accusation. but we also had a statement regarding that said, the war was unnecessary reason why shouldn't people have been misled in before that he won the war could turn into a revolution. so he's been up and the idea. now if you decide to take on the rocks and stayed on by the near point, in personal approach, can it possibly can ruffle a lot of fet, those by multi saying, i'm what's going on right now, but there is actions. mean there is the worry for most go that this could start to domino type of effect, that they may be of a disgruntled military officials and of parts of the country that agree with what process can actually has to say. and may be thinking about joining him, perhaps this much is absolutely clear. it is certainly cross the

at what this means we're joined by nbc news foreign correspondent kelly cobiella from kyiv and chief fornt correspondent richard engel is in taiwan. kelly, to the extent, and we don't know anything for sure, to the extent this is an enormous distraction for vladimir putin, can he keep control in russia. do ukrainians see an opening here on the battlefield? >> reporter: i think that's the hope among ukrainian leadership, that this distraction will help them when it konls to the fight along that 600-mile front line here in ukraine. the wagner forces are some of the most effective forces on the battlefield. those wagner paramilitary forces playing a big role in bakhmut in the east. we still don't know how many of them there are. prigozhin was claiming over the weekend that he had 25,000. how many are still in ukraine? how many are loyal to him fighting the war in ukraine? how effective can they be now that he possibly is taken out of the equation? frankly, we don't even know that much, if he will no longer have control over these forces in some way. antony blinken, the secretary of state, was asked about this, about wha

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kelly cobiella in kyiv, thank you. >>> what do we know about the man behind the rebellion and what drove him to turn against the kremlin? chief foreign correspondent richard engel has reported extensively on him and the wagner group and has this report. >> reporter: a senior u.s. official tells nbc news the best way to understand what's happening now in russia is a mafia power struggle. yevgeny prigozhin is a capo, a mid-level, and until recently, loyal soldier who has risen through the ranks by doing special tasks for his boss, president putin. first it was food. prigozhin owned a chain of restaurants, including the new haven in st. petersburg, which putin and his early team used as a hangout, earning the nickname. "putin's chef." over time he learned to cater to putin's other needs. most americans know prigozhin from the disinformation on their social media feeds. he founded a bot farm, the internet research agency that, according to the justice department, sowed doubts about the legitimacy of the 2016 election, highlighted racial tensions in the united states, and promoted donald trump. in 2022, prigozhin reinvented himself again into a commander of a mercen