>> guest: kelly michaels, margaret kelly michaels. c-span: where is she today? >> guest: margaret kelly michaels -- we did get her out, and she won on her first appeal, and today she lives with her four children and has just delivered a fifth children with her husband, former prosecutor, one of the few people that i wrote about who has put her life together in so healthful a way and without being haunted. because once you endure false imprisonment of this kind -- and remember, there is no one more despised, no one, than the alleged child molester. i mean, the amirault women, when they were thrown into prison. you could not have imagined people more used to comfort, upright status. they were church goers -- be throw into a prison on a dirty mattress while they waited, being moved to their cell to have people spit at them, call them child abusers. these people were invariably thrown into isolation cells for their own protection. c-span: i want to come back to that. i want to just get a little bit on each one of these people. grant snowden (ph)? >> guest: grant sno

case that i'm here to talk about this morning, united states versus philip kelly "bobo" don eugene siegelman and paul michael henry, is a glaring exception to the general rule. that case was handed down by a grand jury in may of 2004. by which time a fairly new united states attorney was in her third year. the case just didn't, just didn't spring up. like a phoenix rising from the ashes, it had an earlier existence. two years earlier, the united states attorney had prosecuted and convicted tuscaloosa dr. philip vogel, medicaid fraud. he was a friend of governor siegelman, who, in the same year, 2002, had been narrowly defeated in his re-election bid. by 2004, ex-governor siegelman was leading in the polls for the next gubernatorial race, and that's for both potential democratic and republican candidates. dr. vogel had a number of contracts with medicaid to provide medical care in the western area of alabama's -- it was alleged he had violated the state's competitive bid laws and committed other acts of fraud in connection with those contracts. he was tried, convicted. the case went to the 11th circuit court

kelly, retired u.s. marines corps. and general, retired from sitcom, and admiral dennis blair, and admiral clark, all retired -- retired top military officials. general michael ryan, general charles wall, both retired. but these are some of th the highest military officials in this country, all of whom believe this should be open. would they suggest that if somehow this would impede military training area? of course not. we have military training areas in the central gulf and western gulf. there's no issue there, there's no conflict there. so this legislation is landmark in many ways. for the first time in a long, long time, we're going to actually going to increase production in an area that's been off limits. i was one of four senators that opened up this little area -- four of us, senator domenici, myself, senator bingaman and senator tallent offered legislation to open lease 181 in the gulf and i believe that was about five years ago. that got open but was shrink substantially before being opened. this is the second approach to open that which should be open in the eastern gulf. i understand there are people upset with it and they say you can't open that