why don't you get vans name on kelly slater of tony hawk?lp them perform better. they help us create the best product we can put in the marketplace. at the same time, we have been lucky enough to have long relationships with artists, celebrities, musicians, and designers who connect to the brand and a much more organic way. they see the brand is something that connect to rather it is through their youth or their interest. that helps us because it is authentic and organic. olivia: and you do not pay the. -- pay them. erik: i don't see the nike flynet as a competitor, really to the vans shoe. who are your competitors? is it skechers, the adidas samba? the chuck taylor? what do people buy if they are not buy vans? kevin: anything that competes for the teen wallet. whether it be footwear or apparel. we have a larger purpose and is. there is a large range of competitors, whether it be footwear or the large athletic brand that has more recently entered the action sports base. -- space. olivia: the president is in oregon today at nike headquarters