foundry and then eventually worked for -- what was the name of that place -- turned out to be kelly springfielde tires. tavis: right. >> fits tires as a tire molder, molding them big tires, every kind of tire you can imagine. that was what he did. then different things happened. he left this life. so i saw him always working basically to try to bring home a check to take care of his family. but somebody else held the keys, or the strings, to whether lived or didn't, and whether he lived or died. i was like, "you know what? i'm not going to let that happen to me. i want to be a farmer, so that at least my family's eating, i'm eating." tavis: right, right. >> i'm young, i love music. i said, "well, i'll play music on saturday, open up the barn." tavis: yeah. [laughter] >> come on down, bring your bass. bring your guitar. i've got a piano up in the barn. tavis: so when did you figure out that farming was not the way you were going to go, and that all this gift that you had, this musical talent that you had, had to come out? >> probably, well, i think that -- i can't say that this was the exact day