i'm kellyanne conway in for sean. the biden white house is very worried that the president's adult son is going rogue. despite numerous assurances that the administration has no role in hunter biden's legal affairs, axios has reported that hunter clashed with top white house aides over his defense strategy. apparently they want hunter who is facing three active investigations to stay quiet and not bring any more attention to the big guy, even as hunter faces a looming indictment. joining us now with if very latest, our own kevin corke. kevin? >> kellyanne, great to be with you. as you can imagine, this is a major headache for the white house. apparently hunter biden is, according to some, going rogue. in effect, what he's said to be doing is though the fact that he's facing numerous investigations, apparently he's clashing with the white house over his legal defense. now, as you pointed out, he's facing investigations into possible tax fraud and illegal firearm purchase, business corruption and a child support case in

kellyanne, are you surprised by this? >> kellyanne: know and i'm disheartened by this trend.ommunity colleges is also way up and i'm getting my four year degree and all the student debt that comes with it. i sent into somebody else's point of view. and no guarantee on the back end that you will have this fulfilling high pegging job or career path. look, the most popular piece i think president trump's economic government and mike pence and the most popular piece was these vocational technical and carpenters, electricians, hairdressers, but my goodness, and economy we want that works for everyone. and is being worked by everyone. so, i'm not surprised by the fact i gave the students in a particular post covid era a ton of credit for saying no to four-year college. i have two 18-year-olds about two graduate from college but they know if they want to go that route, 100% a high note. >> kayleigh: molly a lot of people asking do i have a return on my investment? i graduated after friends of mine couldn't find a job and we paid to go to a big university and we don't have a job. >>

evin >> kellyanne. kevin , thank you . while some the biden white house are feigning outrage over hunter's legal defense fund, virtually no one seems botheredh by the bogus letter. erfifty one former intel officials signed in the fall of 2020, falsely discreditingr the hunter biden laptop stor y. maybe that's because the biden campaign, it turns out orchester to the letterwith t with the help of formeher cia chief mike morrell, accordingin to new reports in an email,n morrell told another cia chief, john brennan, that the purpose the intel letter was to help let joe biden in the upcoming presidential debate. tewahelp him with a talking poit meanwhile, earlier this week, a shocking new claim from a whistleblower against the bigb guy, joe bidenid himself. here's oversight committee james colmer. >> we take our whistleblowers very seriously. as you know, there have been two very credible whistleblowers come forward in the last two weeks. whistle-s comewe're doing everyn to protect these whistleblowers. and to tand to try to e

made for more. ♪ ♪ ♪ steve: look at this, kellyanne, tammy and dr.ith 2024 election. with candidates popping up, senator tim scott tomorrow and ron desantis, this week. we have the governor of north dakota. talking about the roosevelt library. chris christie. a lot to talk about. start with this very unlikely ad for the trump campaign. that appeared on tv this morning from a very unlike unlikely source. >> you said it would concern you if president trump ran for office again, he is the front-runner for the republican nomination. what is your level of concern now? >> well, i'm concerned because among other things because he is has been very clear that he wants to um, dramatically change if not dismantle some major institutions in the american government. >> tammy, that is the whole point. that is what people want. >> that is what people want. concern because he will deal with wage gap and people will have jobs again and bad guys will be dead or hiding, god forbid we should have, that they create institutions and giant government, and propretend this i

joining us now kellyanne conway is back with us on fox news contributor. to see you here in new york for your both sets experts on this i'll start with you. your thoughts on what we are seeing? >> it's important to acknowledge drug addiction is a very perilous complex disease in our country. without strategic multifaceted approach to treatment records a high level of relapse and cynicism. that's why it's important not just to prescribe a medication. not just using medications but use it in conjunction with behavioral therapy. with counseling, with support groups. some people these medications can be lifesaving. one of the ingredients can't just this medicine right here predict this a medicine that has prevented so many overdoses. the beauty of some of these medicines is that it prevents you from overdosing because of the combination of medications. so you will get the receptors in your brain filled with the sense of it opioid but you will not get the high permit it helps reduce your cravings. it helps reduce the withdrawals would force people to relapse. s

. ♪ >> hello everyone i'm molly line along with joe kellyanne conway and jason and welcome to "the bigurday show" the big story tonight, the growing field for the republican nomination for president in 2024. south carolina senator jumping into the ration and filing paperwork with the fec and he's getting praise from elon musk for this ad. elon musk -- >> if you take out a loan you pay it back. if you commit a violent crime you go to jail. [applause] can i get an amen i'll tell you the truth. >> elon musk tweeting great statement by tim scott few hours ago scott responded this is our mission elon musk will save you a seat on monday. that's when senator scott is set to formally announce his bid. former president trump's team using the announcement about scott to hit florida governor ron desantis calling it a path to second place his campaign relesioning a statement that reads, quote, ron desantis failed shadow campaign has opened the floodgates for career politicians looking to see an opportunity to raise profile head of the 2028 race and tim scott aggressive media purchase doesn't need

kellyanne said maybe it's on purpose but not lucrative so far. >> i would just quickly repeat what kellyanne underscored. i don't know who this is targeting. i don't think it's targeted at feminist beer drinkers and the whole premise of the commercial makes no sense to me. i watched it three times before i thought i had a sense and then i realized it makes no sense. >> harris: that will be more than viewers potentially watch it. you are an expert now. great to see you both. thank you very much. president biden is set to restart debt talks with congressional leaders. why members of his own political party don't want him to negotiate with republicans? do they want to see the country fail? why wouldn't they? parents and critics tearing into new york city's decision to house migrants in schools. illegal immigrants alongside little kids. >> they have centers, maybe churches that have extra floors. i don't think that the school should have been an option at all. >> harris: the decisions of a sanctuary city. parents, some threatening to pull their children out of public school. nate foye reporting

when the washington post in an exclusive report revealed that kellyanne conway secretly fall and theervices whatsoever. kellyanne conway was funneling the money from leonard leo, who has grown superrich creating a pipeline of republican nominees to federal courts, including the supreme court. >> leonard leo, this guy doesn't have business before the court, his business is the court. >> tonight, the washington post is reporting, quote, in january 2012, leonard leo instructed the gop pollster kellyanne conway to bill a nonprofit -- the group called the judicial education project and use the money money to pay virginia ginni thomas, the documents show. leo, an adviser to the judicial education project, and a key figure in a network of nonprofits that has worked to support the nominations of conservative judges, told conway, he wanted her to give ginni thomas another $25, 000, the documents show. he emphasized that the paperwork should have no mention of ginni, of course, conway's firm, the polling company, sent the judicial education project a 25,000 -- no mention of -- judicial educati

liz: fair enough kellyanne conway, you'll be back with us. thank you, thanks for joining us look at this story. even democrats, including new york city mayor eric adams, say enough is enough. city university of new york green lighted a law graduate's " hate-filled" commencement speech claiming the u.s. is all about white supremacy. nobody really thinks that. seriously? but get this. she was getting paid, she got her own college education paid for by u.s. taxpayers. plus, america's top watchdog on the power grid warns a big two-thirds of the nation face power blackouts this summer due to the president's green energy push. we're going to tell you whose at risk and former president trump takes it next lever you'll in this flight with florida governor ron desantis in iowa this week and president biden un leashing more irs audits on the little guy. talking mom and pop shops. right as the new wall street report says they do face the fight of their lives. tonight congresswoman claudia tenney, jason chaffetz joins us. former economic advisor to forme

kellyanne conway wasn't instructed by leonard leo to use her firm to pay the money to ginni thomas. sure and leave jimmy thomas's name off the paperwork. leo told conway, quote, no mention of ginni, of course. of course. nbc news has not seen these documents and has not independently verified this report. in a statement to the post, mr. leo defended's actions, including this decision to keep thomas's name off the paperwork, saying, quote, the work ginni thomas did here does not involve anything connecting either to courts business or with other legal issues knowing how disrespectful, malicious and gossipy people can be, i will try to protect the privacy of kellyanne conway and the thomas's did not respond to requests for comment to the post, but the latest scandal as raised a bunch of new questions for the thomas family and their benefactor's, including questions about the nonprofit that leonard leo used to pay ginni thomas. according to the washington post, that nonprofit was taking in less than $50,000 a year back in 2011. but in 2012, the same years that the secret payments were

kellyanne, are you going to let everybody stay home?g as they like and come back to the nest as well. look, she is a child. i think she's 18. yes -- she just graduated high school and decided not to go to college, so where's a little bit of the grace and the forbearance from the parents saying we expect you'll look for a job ask by september have landed one. it's right away, june 1st -- she's 18 years old. [laughter] >> i love it. >> so i don't know, i'm going to be the softie here actually. and, by the way, what they should have said is $200 or take out the trash, do all the dishes, do the grocery shopping. i didn't hear the work ethic element in their bargain here. and that's very fascinating too. by the way, $100 or buy your own groceries, that was a little harsh. >> oh, wow. [laughter] >> $100 for the? >> that's pretty good, right? i don't know -- >> i spent 100 today at the wawa in jersey, trust me. >> all right, stick around, the big four is next. ♪ ♪ sometimes, the lows of bipolar depression feel darkest before dawn. with caplyta

kellyanne is a fox news contributor.alls to build camaraderie you used to fall back and people would catch you and that would build trust? crooked just dropped the big guy. how do you see it? >> well, she did. and she will always be jealous of him for getting the brass ring that she couldn't: a couple things to reinforce what you said. joe biden almost fell. hillary clinton did fall. she fell seven years ago at the age of 68. he is 12 years past that. and i think what she raises is what americans are saying, which is that 70% say joe biden don't run again. and 69% say his age has an awful lot to do with why they don't want to him to run again. this is important, jesse, because any great policies, if the economy were humming and we were energy independent. crime and flap inflation were down and the border was secure. they would say age is wisdom. maturity. seasoning, this guy is brilliant. they can't look past his age and his policies because his policies are just as bad if not worse than his age. we all know what we see.

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let's bring in kellyanne conway and guest hosting hannity tonight. must-see tv.dy runs a different campaign. there is usually a formula. they have all these people saying president biden is so with it and so agile and you don't actually see him doing that. i don't know if that's enough. >> i think the 2024 campaign for joe biden will come down to believing what they say or believing what you see. whether it's what you see at the border, the gas pump, ukraine, communities, what you see all across the globe and what you see from this president. i'm surprised they've sidelined him. biden in the basement 2020 but not that different in 2022. biden and even harris weren't invited to a lot of these swing states and districts. the president is coming to wisconsin. would you like to campaign with him? i wash my hair on tuesdays. not available. when you are biden and harris you have to go out and campaign. i'm struck dana, how this 13-minute -- 3-minute announcement video. kamala harris is mentioned and featured 13 times. she never speaks. it is symbolism over substance. i

the post reports that leo instructed kellyanne conway, who was, at the time, a republican poster, too advised, and then use that money to pay ginni thomas. this was the same year that leo's nonprofit filed an amicus brief to the supreme court in a landmark voting rights case. in all, kellyanne conway's polling company paid ginni thomas and her consulting firm $80,000 between june 2011 in june 2012, with another $20,000 to come before the end of 2012. in a statement to the post, leonard leo said, in part, it is no secret that ginni thomas has a long history of working on issues within the conservative movement, and part of that work has involved gauging public attitudes and sentiment. the work she did here did not involve anything connected with either the courts business or with other legal issues. we are going to have a lot more on the implications of all of this coming up next. ortfolios for their long-term goals. (other money manager) but you still sell investments that generate high commissions for you, right? (fisher investments) no, we don't sell commission products. we're a fi

>> permission granted. >> i will quote kellyanne conway. desantis needs a plan if he runs for president. ron desantis needs an energy plan if he is running for president. he ought to focus on that. this does not do that. >> you don't think the issue of inappropriate, age inappropriate sexual material or gender identity information or crt, that has to get out of our schools? these kids cannot do math, science or know anything about computers. >> guess what? parents vote, but the schools are a state and local issue. you know what people care about? inflation. people's wages adjusting for inflation have gone down about 4% under joe biden. ron desantis does not have an economic plan as of yet. today disney pulled a $1 billion investment out of florida. these are six-figure jobs. he has picked a fight with disney. >> it is a state issue. it's important. we are indoctrinating our kids and not giving them the education that they need for life. >> i agree that we need to focus on the economy. >> he is running for president. he is doing this in the

the payments were facilitated by none other than republican pollster and future campaign manager kellyanne conway. according to the documents reviewed by the post, back in january, 2012, quote, leo instructed kanye conway to bill a nonprofit group e advises and then use that money to pay virginia, ginni thomas. here's our post said he did it. leo told conway he wanted her to give ginni thomas another 25, 000, the documents show. conway's firm, the polling, company sent a nonprofit associate with leo, that 25,000 dollar bill that day, currently owes instructions, conway's firm list of the purpose as, supplementary constitution polling in opinion consulting. now in total, the post reports conway's firm paid thomas's firm $80,000 between june 2011 into 2012. it's a big chunk of change. and expected to pay 20,000 more before the end of 2012. we're talking 100 grand in the calendar year. the documents reviewed by the post do not indicate the precise nature of any work thomas did. okay, so it sounds like leonard leo and kellyanne conway directed 100 grand to a group run by ginni thomas without a

leader directed kellyanne conway to give 25 k according to documents.ve no -- of jenny of course. the washington post said that quote, ginni thomas is a long issue working on issues within the conservative movement and the work she did here did not involve anything in fall with either the court's business or other issues, he added it. knowing a disrespectful he isn't given c so the malicious and gossiping people can be have always tried to protect the privacy of thomas and ginni. kellyanne conway did not respond to messages seeking comments but to -- response in fox's experience that the company had no business before the court. nbc news has not independently verified or confirmed these reports, but joining me now is justin elliott who's one of the propublica no borders who has been breaking all of this unbelievable news about the relationship between clarence thomas and conservative billionaire activists harlan crow. just i think blockbuster is an understatement and has these incredible breaking news stories about clarence thomas. let's be clear, here.

you raise an interesting point i want to touch on, what kellyanne conway said. trump loves competition. in 2016, he loved the comp tigsz, one of 17 andy hoo was polling less than 1% when he started and won the nomination. think of the advantage now. he is the incumbent, but going forward, he has a huge advantage he is bringing in to a fractured field and will take advantage of that, it is a question of how much does desantis chip away at that. >> ashley: he'll be on fox news at 8 p.m. tonight. we'll dive into that tomorrow morning on this show. police are investigating the fired professor who had a tirade. after the "new york post" showed a video of her threatening a reporter with a machete. >> todd: marianne has details. >> marianne: that professor is under investigation by the nypd, after displaying a machete to a reporter. >> let's get out of here, you can't do that. >> that reporter saying he was stunned when rodriguez came out of her bronx apartment pressing a knife against his skin after we knocked on her door. >> we thought we might have a chance given sh

kellyanne, >> han i love joe biden. >> i'll give him five fullan hal hours if he can handle that. and now i'll be respectful, but i'll ask hard questions. and give him a chance>> to answer. >> i don't kno i forget w if hen handle your live audience. >> that's a problem to mike lindell do you know it's funny that cnn, cnn and abc and some of these otheri networks, the only people thated i have on right now who can remotely be called republican oriented trump and particular in cn n, they haveld trump a these women on who worked for trump . and the only thing that reallyta qualifies them to be on is thatt they're now against trump like like my own, because i'm pretty on my,y because i'm so smart. an you're on because you work fornd chomping at your against trump . so particularly embarrassingo to them because they figure thishis is is home now. we'll never deal with trump again. and now they're invitingy. trump . i have to think it's going to go the other way on . these networks are going do to have to sit down and interview donald trump . my point is they don't know how because folk

i'm going to quote kellyanne conway from earlier in the day. ron desantis needs an economic plan if he's going to run for president . ron desantis needs an energy plan if he's going to run for president . and he ought to be focusing on that. >> and this doesn't do that. you wait a minute. you don't think the issue of inappropriate age, inappropriate material or gender identity information crt that that has to get out of our schools? these kids can't read , write, do math or science or know a thing about computers. >> guess what? what parents vote , but the schools are a state and local issue. and you know what? people care about inflation because people's wages, adjusted for inflation have gone down about four percent under joe biden and ron desantis does not have an economic plan as of yet. and today, disney just pulled a one billion dollar investment out of florida. and these are six figure jobs and he's picked a fight with disney for his. that's a state issue. i mean, i think it's important that we're indoctrinating our kids and then we're n

. >> steve: that is what kellyanne conway is suggesting. listen to this. >> kellyanne: probably donald trump's anthem right now, he's front-runner beating closest competitor 56-20, donalron desa. competition is for him. there were seven in 2016. >> interesting. >> steve: seven or eight republicans in by the end of the week and it will be interesting to see what donald trump, if mark meridith is right and he's spoken to the trump campaign and they'll come out blasting at tim scott. interesting to see what they go after him upon. >> brian: what do you have, too nice approximate of a guy? >> ainsley: has amazing story from cotton to think can, everything that he's endured and his -- he wasn't able to play football because of an accident and was going to be a minister and decided to go into insurance business and wanted to be a politician and people like him in south carolina. so far no one has been able to dig up any dirt on him. >> brian: i add this, though, when he first announced explore tory committee, he was all over the place on abortion

in all kellyanne conway's polling company paid ginni thomas and her consulting firm $80,000 between juneth another $20,000 to come before the end of the 2012. in a statement to "the post" he said in part it is no secret that ginni thomas has a long history of working on issues within the conservative movement, and part of that work has involved gauging public attitudes and sentiments. we're going to have a lot more on the implications of all of this coming up next. s of all of this coming up next. there is a better way to manage diabetes. the dexcom g7 continuous glucose monitoring system eliminates painful finger sticks, helps lower a1c, and it's covered by medicare. before using the dexcom g7, i was really frustrated. all of that finger pricking and all that pain, my a1c was still stuck. before dexcom g7, i couldn't enjoy a single meal. i was always trying to outguess my glucose, and it was awful. before dexcom g7, my diabetes was out of control because i was tired, not having the energy to do the things that i wanted to do. (female announcer) dexcom g7 is a small, easy-to-use wearable

kellyanne conway talking about mayor of miami, francis suarez. he could be president one day. i'm not shy to tell president trump that suarez could be. but this is kellyanne conway loyal to trump promoting another candidate saying he should maybe run as president or trump should peck him as the vp. >> or to run for president to be picked for vice president. and you have to wonder if that's the calculation for former governor perry or nikki haley or any of the other candidates, which is why they aren't necessarily coming out punching trump in the face because they think they could end up in a trump administration or on the vp list. >> okay. it gets complicated before it gets not complicated. >>> up next, north carolina's democratic governor vetoes a 12-week abortion ban. will a new republican super majority override the governor? might this debate impact how the state factors in 2024? to finally lose 80 pounds and keep it off with golo is amazing. i've been maintaining. the weight is gone and it's never coming back. with go, i've not only kept off the weight and itbut i'm happi

kellyanne down played her role here. what did you make of her response and the situation?nteresting she talked about the fact that ginni thomas was a contractor for her. a lot more we have questions about with regard to the story but she spoke to it as if it is somebody who worked for her and paid her for that work and she noted that a lot of the recent stories we've seen regarding the thomas's when you dig into them you find even within the articles themselves they don't allege that any laws have been broken or crimes committed. although they raise a lot of questions. that's giving fuel to those on capitol hill who want to see more, you know, cracking down on the justices whether it's causing them to put together new legislation, whether it's about making sure they draft their own code of conduct and adopt it. interesting to see. there has been such a flood of information regarding justice thomas and then justice gorsuch and questions about chief justice roberts' wife. it feels almost like a coordinated effort at the same time the capitol hill folks say they want more con

if you look at this deal between leonard leo in the federalist society, where he tells kellyanne conwayomas but not to report -- that is a direct, possibly, violation of the law, and certainly another example of corruption. and, look, i don't think anything is going to happen because there is no way the republicans are going to push clarence thomas out while joe biden gets to nominate the next supreme court justice. and, you know there's no way to get 66, or whatever it would be, 67 votes in the senate to impeach clarence thomas without republicans. so, it is obviously corruption, the republicans have shown that they don't care about, that they didn't convict donald trump after he tridents rexton. so i don't see them convicting clarence thomas over this. as for feinstein, she needs to be back. the one thing that she had been doing well was getting judges to match a really fast pace of nominating and confirming judges under the trump administration. and, that is not happening right now. no matter what feinstein said is happening in her statements. >> she said she is planning to come back

i'm kellyanne conway in for sean.s going rogue. despite numerous assurances that the administration has no role in hunter biden's legal affairs, axios has reported that hunter clashed with top white house aides over his

one other data point, lawrence, we saw in a book that was published by kellyanne conway, her allegation said, hey, you want a pardon? everybody needs one. it becomes pretty clear that donald trump was willing to give out pardons to friends, two associates, and perhaps even sell them together with rudy giuliani. >> and as i've said, not every conversation was recorded. -- house select committee public hearings, saying that in the waiting hours of the trump presidency, he didn't have time for white house counsel pat cipollone to be whining about ethical lapses in the oval office, because he, jared kushner, was too busy pushing out pardon after pardon. perhaps including the pardon that donald trump gave to jared kushner's farther. one other data point, lawrence, we saw in a book that was published by kellyanne conway, her allegation that donald trump walked up to her and said, hey, you want a pardon? everybody needs one. it becomes pretty clear that donald trump was willing to give out pardons to friends, two associates, and perhaps even sell them together with rudy giuliani. >> and as i'v

leo told gop pollster kellyanne conway to bill the educational project, a nonprofit group he advises. thomas but leave her name off the paper work. this comes on the heels of revelations the gop mega donor and thomas friend harlan crow has been paying for luxury trips, real estate transactions. as we learned yesterday, he paid the tuition for thomas' grand nephew. joan, how big a deal do you think this "washington post" report about payments to ginny thomas is, particularly in the wake of the reports of her husband's financial history with harlan crow? did you have any idea both of them were receiving money like this from activists and donors? >> good evening, anderson. my first reaction was this is yet one more piece that shows how intertwined wealthy money interests are with these supreme court justices, and it's a time when members of congress, wash dog broups in the media, have been questioning why the justices don't have a formal code of@ins. this situation involving ginnie already gets attention, but you're right to pair it with what we learned earlier from to publica reports ab

we have a society about him correcting kellyanne conway, about ten years ago, there he is on the leftdirecting kellyanne conway to give ginni thomas $25,000 in payment through a nonprofit he was not on the board of. and he emphasized the paperwork should have no mention of ginni, of course. this nonprofit would go on to pay her fairly under $1,000. none of it mentioning that is to ginni thomas. we don't know if the other payments were for her as well, though they didn't -- this does not seem great. what do you think about that? >> well, i use the word deceit, i use the word cover-up, i would use the word -- it's clear that leonard leo knows that if they saw the light of day, it would cause controversy. and the bottom line here is that the court is getting itself into a lot of trouble and that's bad for our democracy. you know, whatever the relationship is with thomas, and his benefactor, it's a pretty shocking thing to be getting vacations on yachts in greece, in new zealand, to be flying on private jets, and have that not be known. and obviously, the whole federal society relationshi

that kellyanne conway. citing documents at msnbc has not independently confirmed, the post says that they instructed conway to pay $25,000. to affirm belonging to justice thomas's wife, conservative activist, ginni thomas. the thomas's have yet to respond to our request for comment. we are told the post that the concern was for the promises privacy. take a listen. >> in this case ginni thomas was one of our contractors -- she worked in the reagan administration. this is working in public policy for years and the pulling company we did public opinion research and data analytics before we had no business with the court. >> these reports broke just days after the senate judiciary committee held a hearing on tuesday focusing on supreme court ethics responds. they have disclosed their gifts, including larry's vacations and private plane rides. which both thomas and crow said that they would not think require disclosure since crowded not have business before the court. here is judiciary committee chairman, dick d

the post did not receive responses from justice thomas, from ginni thomas his wife or k kellyanne conwayuary 6th cases yet, a jury in washington has convicted four far right proud boys members of seditious conspiracy including its former leader, enrique tarrio. prosecutors accused five men of mounting a sophisticated operation to block the transfer of power from former president trump to president joe biden. the jury convicted four of sedition and three other conspiracy charges, obstructing the electoral college vote and tampering with evidence. the fifth man was found guilty on a handful of other felonies. the verdict is a major win for the justice department marking the third time prosecutors have secured guilty sedition verdicts linked to the january 6th insurrection. attorney general merrick garland said it is clear the doj will do everything in its power to defend democracy. >> the evidence presented at trial detailed the extent of the violence at the capitol on january 6th and the central role these defendants played in setting into motion the unlawful events of that day. >> tarrio

and kellyanne conway only -- contractors at the time.eo is not exactly your average conservative judicial activist. no. he is widely considered as the architect behind the right-wing takeover with the nation's highest court, advising donald trump on his far-right appointments. we should note that both of these stories came after this senate judicial committee held a hearing on ethics in the supreme court this week. >> how low can the court go? the highest court in the land should not have the lowest beacon of ethical standards. >> joining me now, alina beverley, the former national deputy director of african american outreach for obama's first presidential campaign in the host of the hour mayers podcast, and basil us michael, democratic strategist, former -- democratic party, and director of the public policy -- roosevelt house institute of 100 college. it is great to have both of you with us. alina, i will start with you. the poster is reporting that leonard leo and ginni thomas, it repeats a pretty damning picture. it seems to me that

independently varied verified either of these stories, but has reached out to the thomas is and kellyannem wait for comment. joining me now is one of the members of the jet is to chip -- from rhode island, sheldon whitehouse. senator, thank you for being with us. the supreme court has long been left to police themselves when it comes to these sorts of ethics questions. you had said that that's not enough. what are the options here? how do you balance the independents of the court with the idea that this branch is not above reproach? t this branch is>> well first og the core police itself has absolutely nothing to do with its independence. it can be independent all day long, and still police itself. what they have done is simply refused to please apply the judicial code of ethics to themselves. which is a very, very convenient decision. but it's one that their behavior shows is no longer tenable. so they have to clean up the mass, and they have to come up with an effective way of having real ethics procedures within the supreme court. >> so senator, what are some of that the options here,

leo from recent press reports that have said he asked kellyanne conway and her polling firm to give jenny thomas, quote, another $25,000. he emphasized the paperwork should have no mention of jenny, of course. we know mr. leo has set his sights on our democracy, on our court. he's amassed $1.6 million to do it. this is problematic for us as a country. this is something this committee should be looking at. i want to note an article by "the new york times." in its -- it notes mr. leo's network -- in his campaign to push some of the country's biggest corporation -- >> we are going to leave this hearing at this point. live coverage does continue on c-span.org. house members today are working on republicans' border security bill and unemployment insurance fraud legislation. live now to the house floor here on c-span. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2023] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] the speaker: the house will be in order. the prayer will be offered by chaplain kibben.

so he is an influential person, and what documents we reviewed show is that in 2012 he told kellyanneway who would of course go on to join the trump white house, she was then in charge of her own polling firm, and he said, look, i want you to -- and the quote was give ginni thomas another 25k and he directed her to bill a nonprofit he advised, the judicial education project, and to use that money to then pay ginni thomas for what he said was consulting work. the timing matters because it was in 2012 that the judicial education project filed its first amicus brief and it was in shelby v. holder, the land mark voting rights case in which the stream court struck down a provision of the voting rights act that is meant to protect minority voters. clarence thomas agreed with that decision, but actually wrote separately to say he would have gone further and struck down a broader provision in the law. that was the same outcome that the judicial education project had also advocated for, and i think, you know, this was a position. this was not a new position for thomas. he had held this positio

howard: a lot of people who like donald trump including kellyanne conway have given him this advice, insistence on still talking about how the election was rigged even as he is now the far and away front-runner. >> no need for it, it's just not politically smart. and i think he's learning, little bit little he's becoming more of a poll its. he doesn't like to talk about perhaps as much as he would naturally because he understands this is not a winner for him. howard: well, this is his third presidential campaign, is so you do learn some things. now, donnell trump, who has threatened to skip the first two republican debates this summer, the first one handled by fox news, is doing a town hall this week with cnn's caitlin collins. wouldn't this be the same network that trump attacked as fake news for almost seven years and boycotted it? but on the other hand, kevin, some critics are saying cnn shouldn't give him a platform, this is terrible. >> i don't understand that at all. howard: i don't either. >> i think you want to get politicians out there, i want to hear their ideas, i want the

trump adviser kellyanne conway was quote as saying you would be among the best possible draft picks as running mate for president trump. would you join a ticket with him? >> look, it's flattering to be in any discussion for the vice presidency or the presidency. you know, i was -- my parents came to this country at 12 and 7 from cuba, exiled from their country at birth and i never thought in a thousand years i'd be on "face the nation" with you about talking about the possibility for running for president. that demonstrates greatness of this country, that this country provides opportunities to everyone who cares about the american dream. that's how i've grown up. >> right. >> you know, grown up as a citizen -- >> you also said that the company needs someone who is aspirational and inspirational and not divisive but donald trump is not a unifier and would you stand with h is i rational and inoperational and people should vote for me because i'm something different which can appeal to a different segment, voters under 30 that biden won by 26 points and i won my city by 86% and was re-ele

from kellyanne conway. did justice thomas have illegal and or at the go obligation to report this?f course he, did yasmin. the entire landscape here is predicated on the notion that judges, including supreme court justices, should avoid any appearance of impropriety. and that is why you bend over backwards. i did the same thing as a u.s. attorney, you go above and beyond what you need to disclose so people can have confidence in your integrity. but here we are right in the heartland of the sort of information that needs to be disclosed about a spouse's income and the fact that it wasn't is very troubling. >> here's what leonard leo is saying about, that the work she did here did not involve anything connected with either the courts business or with other legal issues. knowing how disrespectful, malicious and gossip people people can be, i've always tried to protect the privacy of justice thomas and ginni. >> what do you make of that? >> that has to be one of the most self serving statements i've ever. heard because leo is sophisticated enough to appreciate what the reporting requir

kellyanne conway is 80% haseen been a great week family.e y'all nextgr. >> welcome to this special addition of hannity.l ed i'm kellyanne conway, in forit sean. llyanne and tonight, trouble in paradise. the biden white house is now's reportedly very worried that the president's adult son son has going rogue, despite numerous assurances that the administration has no role in biden's legal affairs. axios has reported that hunterhh clashed with top white house aides over his legal defenseis

that history lesson, somebody who knew this stuff by heart and could add another chapter to it was kellyanneonway. during that time she was either here on the set or working one of the campaigns. is it getting late early? >> it's late early for the following reason. we never had a former president running for office again. and we haven't had a president and vice president like biden-harris so unpopular on every core issue. the border, ukraine, crime, inflation, education, they are under water. and joe biden's personal attributes are not matching up to a good reelection campaign. but i love competition. i think competition makes the party stronger and will make the eventual nominee more robust and ready for biden. desantis will have to announce and he will have to define himself and people will learn about his record in florida. i think none of the analogies apply here. she only lived in the white house but was never president. brian: when people say it's donald trump's to lose, can you say that? >> i think that's fair. the challenge for all the people running against trump. which trump voter