about the risk to our democracy from this administration in a lot of what you talked about with kellyanne conaway're seeing the most comprehensive attack on the freedom of the press in memory. the justice department to denigrate the judiciary, i talk a lot more on the campaign trail about the threat to our democracy from within than anything that the russians are capable of doing. >> brennan: thank you for joining us, we'll be back in a moment with former secretary of education under president obama arne duncan, get his take what's working and what's not working when it comes to america's schools. democrat democrat. >> brennan: back with arne duncan the author of a new book, how schools work coming out this week. >> thanks for having me. . >> brennan: it was interesting reading this you find out more oh about personally as welly i don't think anyone few you played professional basketball. it's not so much about how school work but really an indictment of how there's notic this book about the education system and you say the education system runs on lies. what do you mean by that >> that's a to co