( applause ) kellyanne conway took a different approach to a similar question with jake tapper: >> when the president said, "no" on air force one, he was talking about he didn't know when the payment occurred. the president has said he didn't know it when it occurred. and that is the "no" on air force one. the "no" refers to "no" at the time the payment occurred. so, i think she's saying that, in 2018, trump knew, but he was answering as if it were 2016 when he didn't know. ( laughter ) let me respond to that not as current stephen colbert but as the stephen from before i saw that clip: "i could not have a lower opinion of kellyanne conway." ( cheers and applause ) ( piano riff ) that's true now. of course, stormy daniels isn't the only legal trouble that trump's in.

we'll ask kellyanne conway, next. >>> and stormy situation. a new report reveals president trump knew about the stormy daniels' hush money payment despite his denials. >> could this impact the case? stormy daniels' lawyer michael avenatti will be here. >>> looming showdown. president trump says he wants to talk to special counsel robert mueller -- >> i would love to speak. >> but he continues to try to undermine the russia investigation. >> phony russia witch hunt. >> what's mueller's next move? we'll talk to the top democrat on the house intelligence committee, congressman adam schiff, ahead. >>> hello, i'm jake tapper in washington, where the "state of the union" is trying to get the story straight. president trump is in washington, perhaps watching television as we speak, as rudy giuliani tries to clean up a potential legal mess he made for his client. but rudy giuliani's cleanup act is raising new questions, telling abc news in a new interview this morning that michael cohen may have paid off other women if it were "necessary." the former

do you agree with kellyanne conway, no problem with the credibility of the white house?oportion of the american people don't agree, even people who support trump don't believe he tells the truth most of the time. so, yes, no, i think that's -- this is fantastic. the only people this is really bad for is the people who are writing the dramas about the white house on television because you can't outdo this drama every day. >> how do you characterize the white house's credibility right now, susan? >> nonexistent probably. and the governor is right, we see polling that trump backers know that he lies, that he's misled the public and they're okay with that. but the credibility -- this is a huge problem, alex, because this is a pillar of other free society. this is about lying to journalists in the room every day, no matter who is behind the podium. it is this administration that is lying, not being forthwith. this is the president of the united states who can't even make -- admit he made a mistake when it came to posting that there were three people being held in north korea,

we were just speaking with kellyanne conway.packing interviews with presidential aids. let's bring in our panel with me here in new york. the editor in chief of "the daily beast." a cnn global affairs analyst and fellow the a the counsel on foreign relations. and a political reporter for the guardian. lots to discuss about the leak and things like that. was there anything about kellyanne conway's rhetoric? >> she's a partisan warrior. she's the apostle of alternative facts. a couple things struck me. she reiterated that line about how this is is the most successful first 16 months. that's by stroke of comparisons not true. you can do that any number of different ways. jfk having an approval rating. that's important. she also said alleged russian interference. that jumped out at me too. whether that's her audience of one, it also come the week after the committee released a bipartisan support says there was interference, but it was designed to help donald trump. so those are significant things. she's fair to say we should and do

. >> brennan: we begin with kellyanne conway. thank you for joining us. >> thank you, margaret. >> brennan: rudy guiliani said he's not an expert on the facts yet. why is the president authorized him to speak like this? >> the president -- one thing i do want to say to you, margarets the president told me just yesterday that when he said no on air force one last month, he's talking about when the payment occurred. that he was not aware of the payment to ms. daniels when the payment occurred. that is consistent with his tweets from a couple of days ago, president had lot to say about this matter. he says this is a private matter, had nothing to do with campaign funds that there is an nda in full force and effect, he believes that ms. daniels and her lawyer have violated. that may go to arbitration. also repeats that this is a false claim. and he also says that michael cohen had basically discretion to use funds that had nothing do do with the campaign how he saw fit as his attorney at that time. >> brennan: in an interview last ni

kellyanne conway, always good to

we spoke to kellyanne conway.ng me with more is guy. >> thank yo >> good morning, great to be here. >> feels like the leadership is at odds with the president. >> that actually had a strong support of the president. he tweeted out in support before. we would like to come back appeared get it done. if you want to be on welfare it's a safety net. if you can work you shouldn't be on welfare. we will bring the good mccall bill to the floor. also solve the daca program. the bill is not there. we are working on other alternatives with president trump. >> what's the holdup in terms of getting the votes. why aren't the votes there. you will have a vote in the next coming weeks. >> the votes are not there to pass it. a lot of members don't understand and we get that. i don't want to see the dream act come to the floor. that's not the answer. amnesty is not the answer. the votes are not there to do what is the right approach. there are no democrats that support building a wall with a fair approach to daca that eye lows peop

a slightly different kellyanne conway. who was cognizant of the fact her words may be used against her. she was saying things like as far as i know, or this is what the president told me, but. so i think that the administration's own staffers are becoming more cognizant of the facts that what they say may, in fact, not reveal or reflect any semblance to the truth. >> okay. none of you are excused. we are going to take a commercial break. but coming up next, we're going to talk about the fight for congress. some potential clues now about the president's battle plans for that. and then the next hour, keeping the faith. what evangelicals think of the president and the stormy saga. a hilton getaway means you get more because... you get another day in paradise. get a sunset on a sunday. get more stories to share. get more from your summer getaway with exclusive hilton offers. book yours, only at hilton.com manait's a series of is nsmart choices. and when you replace one meal or snack a day with glucerna made with carbsteady to

i mean, you just heard kellyann conway state that basically no doesn't mean no.e mean they're now redefining what the word no means on "air force one" trying to reshape the answer to that question. and margaret, i have off to tell you, i would urge people to go back, take a look at the statement michael cohen issued in late february, early march, where he denied basically that mr. trump had reimbursed the payment. and he claimed he had done it all on his own. i mean we now know that was an absolute lie. and at the time, he was representing the president. it's pretty clear to people, what is going on here. and it is a cover-up. >> there has been an alarm rg surge of gun violence in america's third largest city. chicago. more than 50 people have been shot in the past seven days. at least five have died. nicky batiste has the the latest. >> reporter: gun violence returned to the streets of chicago. resulting in a week marked by tragedy and death. the recent warm weather may have played a role in the crime surge. after a frigid first four months of 2018, city had see

>>> kellyanne conway counselor to president trump joins us from the north lawn. good morning to you. >> good morning. steve: the president of the united states, i'm sure you saw this, he tweeted four minutes ago. wow, word seems to be coming out that the obama fbi spied on the trump campaign with an embedded informant. andrew mccarthy says there is no doubt they had one confidential informant in the campaign. if so this is bigger than watergate. he had this one as well. >> congratulations america, we're now into the second year of the greatest witch-hunt in american history, there is still no collusion and no obstruction. the only collusion done by democrats who were unable to win an election despite spending far more money. we don't need to get your reaction, kellyanne, but what do you say? >> we like the president say that the president is own best communications director. i often encourage him to inter face with the public directly. i glad he does that through his vast social media reach and platforms. it is democratization. americans are cutting out the middl

senior adviser kellyanne conway making it very clear that anyone who leaks is a bad actor. >> it is not so much leaking as using the media to schiff each other. >> and several rocks have called the comments denigrating and insensitive. >> i find them insensitive and more indicative of what our politics has become. >> the best way for this to be put to rest and it should have happened immediately would have been for the white house to issue a public apology to the entire mccain family. >> reporter: no senator raised the issue with the president as' ten -- as he appended the week gop lunch today and ignoring questioning about john mccain. >> why don't you apologize to john mccain -- >> so this just proved once again republicans are often willing to say things from afar about the president or about the white house, but when he was faced to face for more than an hour, at that lunch today, they

we will ask counselor to the president kellyanne conway next. and credibility crisis. a new report reveals president trump knew about the stormy daniels hush money payment before his denials. >> why does the president have such a problem with the truth? republican senator roy blunt will be here. >>> looming show down. president trump says he wants to talk to special counsel robert mueller. >> i would love to. >> but continues to try to undermine the russia investigation. >> phony russia witch hunt. what is mueller's next move? we will talk to the top democratic on house intelligence committee ahead. >>> i'm jake tapper in washington where the state of our union is trying to get the story straight. president trump is in washington perhaps watching television as we speak as rudy giuliani tries to clear up a potential legal mess he made over hush payment to stormy daniels. giuliani's cleanup act is raising new questions saying michael cohen may have paid off other women if it were necessary. the former mayor is stressing the hush money payment had nothing to do with the c

kellyanne conway here on "the story" last night. comes in the wake of several major leaks that if white house hard and sent them scrambling on defense to put an end to this flow. a man joining me now, former white house press secretary sean spicer. also the author of the upcoming book, the briefing, which we are looking forward to talking to him about as well. while matt, sean. people using the media to she shiv shiv each other. it sounds like there are going to be some people who will get fired. >> might once have started to heal so i feel pretty good. she's absolutely right. it's an absolute honor to be able to work at the white house and serve the american people and help implement the president's agenda and anybody who goes there and leaks really undermines both the honor that the president has bestowed upon them and the agenda that the president is pursuing on behalf of the american people and i think kelly anna's absolutely right. any unauthorized leaks information -- >> martha: this is like a year and a half. all the cycles o

our kaitlin collins at the white house just got a very brief sort of walking interview with kellyanne conway about what she knew about that reimburse meant for stormy daniels so listen to this moment. >> kellyanne, when did you first learn the president had reimbursed michael cohen for that payment to stormy daniels? >> i have no comment on that. >> did you know about it before sarah? >> i never heard about it during the campaign. >> reporter: did you know about it last year in the white house? >> i did not. >> so she was the campaign manager, as she points out. a lot crossed her desk. >> at the time the payment was made she was the campaign manager. >> indeed. but she knew nothing about it. where does that leave us? >> i think you can obviously see that they're trying to separate the campaign from this payment, basically saying nobody knew about it, it wasn't a discussion during the campaign, that michael cohen basically just took care of this in the way he took care of other things for then candidate trump, now president trump. i think it's complicated by what rudy giuliani said, this idea

it seems like many of them, including kellyanne conway are not yet caught up because after that she was asked whrks did the president know about this payment and she said, oh, i didn't know this. she had a conversation with the president and he was able to deny knowing about the payment at the time but they didn't have the conversation to find out when the president did find out about this. it's strange to believe that that's the case, that they did not ask -- they did not talk about the main issue here which is what did the president know and when did he know it. rudy giuliani was not able to say that. kellyanne conway went on several tv shows today and was not able to say that and sarah hasn't been able to say it. there's more questions than answers and they seem to be trying to catch up to all the mistruths and lies. they've had trouble covering up. >>> speaking of questions and answers, katie, giuliani also said today that the president does not have to comply if he is subpoenaed by robert mueller. i'd like for you to weigh in on that. is that true? >> so neither the fifth amendment

what do you know about what kellyanne conway was hinting at? >> it's a great question and a little unclear what specifically she was saying, including to people inside the white house. i mean, on a ground level, yes, of course. there is a world in which if someone was blatantly caught leaking any white house would certainly be well within their rights to fire them. that makes sense. and she also made a fair point and a good point that is if you work in a white house, you should be loyal to the president. and that's a very reasonable expectation. the problem is, a number of people have observed in this white house that for a variety of reasons, there are some true trump loyalists in this white house. but there's also some not trump loyalists in this white house. and that's a challenge for them. but i think it would be hard to sort of blanket weed out all of those people. >> ashley, is there a sense that they know who it is that's leaking or -- i remember reading some of the reporting and one of the tactics somebody mentioned using, oh, yeah, i p

broader conversation with kellyanne conway. she's join iing me now. great to see you. >> hi, brian. >> i want to start off on a positive note. did you like the royal wedding? >> absolutely. who doesn't love a royal wedding. i admit i watched the clips afterwards. i didn't get up at 4:00 a.m. >> that's okay. it was wonderful on replay also. >> it's fantastic. two of my children are named george and charlotte, but we et had them first. >> i would love to talk about the royal wedding all day. but i want to ask about the tweets. what's the source for the claim they have fom found no collusion with russia? has he been given a report by mueller? >> i won't tell you that, but i will tell you that over a year into this that there is no evidence of collusion. the president has called this investigation a witch hunt many times. yet he and his allies have been cooperative. they turned over thousands of pages of documents. they sat for dozens and dozens of interviews. i think it's important to note that the public has a right to know fully what is going on here.

we need some help. >>> tonight, kellyanne conway's husband again throwing shade at the president. bout gop voters who want a trump challenger in 2020, right, totally discretionary think to do. he chose to do it. he responded to an article about age gap in republicans who support trump and he highlighted some stats that he wanted to tweet out. ages 25 to 34, 57% yes. referring to those who want someone to challenge trump. ages 35 to 44, 58% yes, want somebody to challenge trump. this is a pattern with george conway. he routinely trolls and mocks the president on twitter. "outfront" now, national affairs correspondent for "the nation" joan walsh and former communications director for ted cruz, alice stewart. let's review some of george conway's greatest hits. there are great ones. after the stunning interview on fox news where he said trump had paid michael cohen back for the porn star payments. george conway tweeted out a link to the fec commission. then he tweeted and then deleted a retweet of one of our reporters, kaitlan collins, officials being reluctant to speak about donald tr

i understand why kellyanne conway is upset. i understand why sarah huckabee-sanders is mad.he way you crack down on leaks is to not have the -- the environment where people feel like they want to leak and this is the only way this will be taken care of and i don't think the environment will change any time soon at the white house and because of that, we'll continue to see people run to the press on deep background and off the record with information they feel as though folks should have. >> mary katherine, listen to kellyanne conway, counselor to the president, talking about the leaks coming out of the white house. >> i had several discussions with the president on this very topic today. >> do you expect personal changes as a result, . >> i do. >> she's suggesting there will be people -- i think she's suggesting people will be fired or -- or assigned to different offices. >> we're sort of impersonating the person to get and leak something. there is sort of -- in a lot of the messages, not this particular one, there is a missed point which is these are your people. this is yo

even if kellyanne conway is on to something, her boss is not following her advice.top talking about 2016. i would have won the popular vote if i was campaigning for the popular vote. >> those electoral maps, they were all red. beautiful red. >> in the last election, we defied every expectation and totally proved the pundits wrong. >> trump actually spent this memorial day talking about why hillary lost and why obama thought she was going to win. imagine if someone counted how much he braggs about the victory. it would take forever. it turns out someone does count. trump brags about 201670 times. when he cuts back just like dieting, it doesn't seem to last. the longest he's gone without bragging about 2016 is 30 days. the bragging is the public part. there's also signs he focuses on 2016 as a kind of self-care. he keeps red maps showing his victory around the office for personal moral support. so yes, kellyanne conway may be right that obsessing about the past can get excessive. who's going to tell him? we danced in a german dance group. i wore lederhosen. when i fir

. >> reporter: president trump's adviser kellyanne conway told ""face the nation" that it was campaign end pend churs was wrong." and she talked about why he said no about the payments to daniels. >> the president told me yesterday what when he said no on air force one last month, he's talking about when the payment occurred. >> reporter: now kellyanne conway went on to say the white house is anxious about the three detained americans currently held in north korea. but she could not confirm their release was expected any time soon. as president trump's lawyer rudy giuliani suggested as recently asda errol barnett, cbs news, the white house. >>> the nomination of gina haskell to lead the cia remains on track. that's despite her offer to step aside. the confirmation hearing is scheduled for wednesday. she offered to withdraw over concerns about her involvement in the harsh interrogation program. she was a chief at a base in thailand where two terrorism suspects were subjected to waterboarding that simulates drowning. haskell would be the first woman to lead the cia. >>> president trump's

here is kellyanne conway this morning. >> all i know is what i see. the president is within his rights to talk about this. winning solves a lot of problems. winning completes many sentences. but you can't have it both ways. if you are going to investigate all of this, investigate all of them. we have a right to know what happened with respect to both campaigns and how the issues were handled. reporter: the top democrat on the intelligence committee is saying the allegations coming from president trump are nonsense. >> this is a string of allegations, i was wiretapped at trump tower, the investigation began with the christopher steele dossier. it's designed to create an alternate reality. reporter: donald trump, jr. returns to the news with the "new york times" reporting he met with the crown princes of saudi arabia and the united arab emirate. prior to the 2016 he called a meeting with eric prince, george nader and another individual who may be joel zamel. he was not interested and that was the end of it. a lot of reports on this. there are some publi

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kellyanne conway, why have her on tv?d on top. ( applause ) >> well, so she would take issue with that description. i will say -- >> stephen: she would be lying again. ( laughter ) >> i will say this, we always debate whether or not to have on any guest -- would this guest be helpful for our viewers to understand thus and such. the last time we had kellyanne conway on, it was right after it became clear from rudy giuliani that president trump had not told the truth about what he knew about the hush money payment to stormy daniels via michael cohen. >> stephen: yeah. i caught it was worth the time to have kellyanne conway come on and for me to challenge her on the notion of why does this president tell so many lies. >> stephen: yes. a premise with which she didn't take issue. she said the president does many things. ( laughter ) which was -- ( laughter ) -- you will have to concede is true. >> stephen: that is. i apologize. >> so, i mean, i think that sometimes it's worth it to have people on so you can challenge the very

. >> kellyanne conway selling the same message. she expects changes because of the leaks. >> some leaks exist to hurt colleagues. some exist because they disagree with the policies put forth. none is helpful. this is not leaking, but using the media to shiv each other. >> you expect personnel changes as a result? >> i do. yes, i do. >> sources tell cnn kelly sadler's job is safe. raj shaw reluctant to say much of anything. >> i understand the focus on the issue. it will be dealt with and has been dealt with ininternally. the matter has been addressed internally. it is internal matter. i don't have anything further to add. >> has she been reprimanded? >> you c >> can you explain how it is addressed? >> if i explain that, it will not remain internal. >> try to untwist that pretzel. we have phil with us live from washington. here is what the president tweeted. the so-called leaks from the white house are a massive overexaggeration put out by the fake news media to make us look as bad as possible. with that said, leakers are traitors a

you have kellyanne conway saying i didn't know about this and i was campaign manager. it is potentially a matter of campaign finance law. first i want to read from your reporting because we will get to the president's words on rudy giuliani in a minute. he brings in this high profile guy, clearly a guy who likes to be on tv. clearly a guy who also caused a mess. despite fallout giuliani appe appeared to be in good graces. he says he loves me. does he love him? >> it's complicated as anything is. what seems to have happened is on wednesday night rudy giuliani goes on fox news with only the knowledge of the president. sarah huckabee sanders doesn't know. there is a series of startling proclamation. the president at first seems fairly okay with this. as it plays out where the headlines are the president lied or president said something and rudy giuliani said something different that he could have jeopardized attorney/client privilege by going on national television and describing a conversation with a client and offered new rationale to say comey would not tell the presid

his heart kellyanne conway talk about with the president wants.could spell it with the moderates want in terms of immigration and wife is immigration a land mine, potentially for the republicans? >> the moderate republicans in congress, there's a group of them that are attempting to force a vote on daca protections making affirmative for the president of course when you not the daca would and last year called on congress to make it permanent. an overwhelming majority of the public would like it but the thinking is majority of americans court immigration station that is counter -- intentionally jeopardized republican majority. >> based on what we just heard from kellyanne conway, it seems like the president is no -- if this is to prevent them from winning crucial races with the present been willing to keep immigration demands on hold until after the midterms? >> the sense of urgency i guess it depends whether you are a district that has a lot of hispanics in the district that has a lot of very conservative voters. the sense of urgency has been some

that wasn't exactly what the president was asked, but here's more from kellyanne conway. >> i would also tell you that i'm happy to answer these questions, but i have limited visibility into what mayor giuliani is talking about, because politely, he is the president's counsel is, i'm the president's counselor. i will tell you, though, in speaking with the president just yesterday, when the president said no on air force i, he was talking about he didn't know when the payment occurred. it's a very fast-moving exchange between him and katherine lucie of the ap, i believe, so he's saying he didn't know when the payment occurred and he found out after the fact. >> we also asked if she knew where michael cohen got the money to make that $130,000 payment. on air force i he said no. but an hour later he said he had reimbursed expenditures to michael cohen after the presidency. when asked if he answers things inconsistently, she said no, fred. >> but she did make reference to those tweets that came from the president which talked about and acknowledged monthly payments to michael cohen. boris, s

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kellyanne conway herself has been accused of being a big leaker. you can read multiple report of journalists who say that. i don't know that it's in her interest to say there should be a house cleaning for leakers. >> melissa: well, there are leaks to the benefit of the white house and those are aren't. the truth is every administration has a ton of leakers and it is pretty standard if you are losing an interim argument over policy to float whatever the policy that you don't agree with and home the blowback from the outside changes the mind of the group decided against you. isn't that a normal tactic? >> it could be. there can be ideological and policy disagreements or personal disagreements or someone appalled by the fact someone would do in the white house. >> melissa: absolutely. they could have been horrified and wanted her out so they came out and said she said this thing. john mccormack, we appreciate you being here. they are ready to resume nuclear production at a i here level before the deal? how the united states will respond and what it c

there is kellyanne conway. man, she has the perfect last name for what she does. conway. you guys gotta stop putting kellyanne on your shows. all she does is live. if you don't give her a platform, she has nowhere to lie. it's like that old saying, if a tree falls in the woods, how do we get kelly and under that tre tree? i'm not suggesting she gets hurt, just stuck. there is also of course ivanka. she's the diaper genie of the administration. on the outside, she looks sweet, but the inside, it still [bleep]. >> laura: juan, this is the me too era, we are all for women who speak their mind, i know you thought this was hilarious, you thought it was great, tell me why that in your worldview is funny. >> i didn't think the stuff with sarah huckabee sanders was funny because astaire was seated seated right there, laura, and i thought it made everyone in the room uncomfortable. matt can tell you, i think everybody visibly was worried that sarah might cry or get up and walk out. it just made for a huge fuehrer at a time when that was unnecessary because it had a sensitive, she w

plus kellyanne conway is here on the big stories of the day including president trump making a fantastic pro-life speech before the midterms tonight and a shifting timeline on his meeting with the north korean dictator kim drone on. but first, the latest details on the russia investigation are beginning to make watergate look like child's play. the revelations of the obama era political targeting grow more ominous by the day. the fbi is under increasing pressure tonight to explain why it was surveilling the trump campaign as the number of people contacted by informants continues to increase. sam clovis, george papadopoulos and carter page were targeted. the letter responding last night on the "angle." >> i never knew anything about the person i was speaking with who is a university professor at cambridge in the u.k. at the time. i was invited to participate in a conference in july of 2016 and everything seemed totally normal. >> laura: it's called grooming, that's what they do, carter. but a much more incendiary claim was made by one of our other guests. former trump campaign advisor mic

kellyanne conway i is linked to the white house. she is standing in front of us now. brian: kellyanne, i understand have you expanded role with the administration. that's the story on axios today. is that true? >> what does it say? [laughter] brian: are you worried? >> i'm here to talk about north korea, china. brian: if you are going to be busier than ever before. ainsley: brian says you need a pay raise. >> that's okay. i don't need a pay raise. i'm happy to be here. i'm here to serve the president's agenda as counselor to the president. takes on many different aspects. i'm sorry i'm not familiar with that report. what i want to tell you what really -- okay, go ahead. what really struck me on axios. lost in the shuffle the fact that nbc news had a corrected bombshell of a report ended up being a bomb that there were wiretaps not so much. 110 religion pin register no one taking number listening to o just taking numbers. they confirmed the wiretap story deleted it and replaced it with a tweet. brian ross is no longer there. someone else is doing that this is just a rus

kellyanne conway taking aim at leakers last night saying it appears that some staffers are using the press to settle scores among other reasons. >> some leaks exist i guess to hurt colleagues and they disagree with the policies being put forth. none of them are helpful. >> do you expect personnel changes as a result? >> i do actually, yes, i do. >> bill: john roberts picking up on this. good day to you. i guess some reporters like some leaks but maybe not so much from the inside. good morning. >> when you're on the outside doing what we're doing you love a leak. when you're in the inside trying to run a tight ship you don't like it at all. indications there will be fallout from the leak and what kelly stadler said about senator john mccain in a staff meeting last week, the president tweeting last night the so-called leaks coming out of the white house are a massive over exaggeration put out by the fake news media in order to make us look as bad as possible. with that being said leakers are traitors and cowards and we'll find out who they are. there was a defined group of people who w

his counselor, kellyanne conway was trying to explain his denial about the payment which he made on airne last month. >> the no refers to when the payment occurred. that's very important here. it was a fast moving exchange. i asked the president what he meant and he said i didn't know about it when the payment occurred. i think you are overcomplicating that very simple point. >> with me now, gideon resnick, political reporter for the daily beast and eugene scott, political reporter for "the washington post." great to have you both here on this sunday. you see the a the start here if we look at it, gideon, that which kellyanne conway is saying today, right, where the president did not know the timing at the time of the statement. right? of those payments. yet before the illusion was opposite to that, according to the reporting from "the new york times." where are we? >> yeah, we're in no man's land. this has been a two, three-week story that's been drawn out because we simply cannot get a straight answer about the timelines from all of the people that are involved. and every single time

that is what the president's senior advisor, kellyanne conway, just said this morning. we're sure the president will back her up on that. just be careful, though, because if he says it today, he may change it tomorrow. this morning a growing credibility crisis at the white house. >> the white house will have to deal with this even as they tout very strong employment numbers just in. the unemployment rate dropped below 4% for the first time since 2000. now, we could hear from the president on all of this very shortly. he leaves the white house just minutes from now. we are watching it very closely to see if he addresses either the jobs or the credibility gap. kaitlin collins is there. >> reporter: well, john and poppy, this disclosure made by rudy giuliani is setting off another credibility crisis here in the white house because these staffers for months have been telling reporters that the president didn't know about that payment and didn't know where it came from. of course the president himself blew all of that out of the water when he tweeted roughly 24 hours ago tha

. >>> we want to listen in to kellyanne conway on the white house driveway. >> do you have any -- >>hey be there? >> there's no indication -- >> that may have been. correct? >> why suggest -- >> you've been talking about russian collusion that doesn't exist for 16 months. if there was an informant, they should have been looking at our plan to target 62 points. and our plan to put trump and mike pence in places that republicans hadn't won. you should have been -- >> the gaggle of reporters following kellyanne conway toward the west wing there. she's talking, again, as other aides advisers, surrogates of the president have been of this theory that perhaps there was some kind of an fbi informant planted inside the trump campaign. it was a discussion at the top of the show. clearly this is something the white house isn't going to stop talking about. the president has been tweeting about this. his advisers, his senior advisers are talking about this publicly. >> and without a lot of evidence. >> that's the point somebody was trying to make. there's no evidence to support this. >> in fact,

what are you thinking about kellyanne conway? >> i think it's remarkable because kellyanne was doing some limited walk-back this morning and she was trying to insulate herself a little bit. this is a woman who likes lies like people like cake. if it's to the point that it's making her uncomfortable and she's trying to say, i don't know about that stuff, you know there is a bigger issue below the surface here. this is like a filth iceberg and there is a lot underneath it that she's aware of but doesn't want to get tagged with knowing about because she's the queen of that happy talk thing for him, and the fact that she's putting daylight between herself and the president on this is very interesting to me. >> it's telling. i'm not sure what it says yet, but it is telling. so larry, your assessment? >> i agree. and also what she said was, well, i'm not really involved in that, that is what giuliani is involved with. then giuliani says, i don't know the facts. it's a simple request here. can somebody talk to the president and find out

kellyanne conway i'm sure does the same thing. so i think what's so striking about this. it feels like staffers are trying to hurt other staffers personally. that's why sarah sanders meeting with leaks immediately got leaked. >> i agree. this is very personal. and it's scary. leak is a serious crime. depending on the leaks it can violate numerous provisions of the criminal code. and there is a hierarchy of leaks. i'm not justifying it. some we can understand because they expose civil rights violations. but this is personal attacks meant to undermine the office of the president of the united states. but it's making him look like a victim of corruption and a victim of the swamp. the key is how this will be spun by the media. the trump administration can't trust doj to investigate who is doing the leak. so the house is going to investigate and the media will spin it and say it's political retaliation. kennedy: here we are talking about the leaks as opposed to the joke that kelly sadler made at senator mccain's expense. >> the joke was tasteless. but these leaks are infuriati

joining me now, kellyanne conway, counselor to the president. great to have you with us tonight. thank you for being here. earlier today roche top was speaking with the press. he said he believes in terms of this violence that the responsibility rests squarely with hamas. is that the white house perspective on the? >> we think these deaths are tragic of course. and a loss of life is. at the same time they bear the responsibility for killing these individuals. this president made good on the promise of four presidents, the previous three presidents before him all promised to do with this president did, which is to recognize jerusalem as the capital of israel as israel is due and to move our u.s. embassy there. president george w. bush said as soon as he got into office he would do that. it was not done. president obama said that jerusalem, israel must remain undivided and that jerusalem will always be its capital. in this way the president is only recognizing reality. but i think it also, the violence in the loss of life, martha, underscores that this is a very fraught process and

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kellyanne conway says heads cold roll as she also takes aim at the leakers.atch. >> there's all kinds of leaks. some leaks exist to hurt colleagues, some disagree with the policies being put forth. none of them are helpful. it's not so much leaking as using the media to shiv each other. that was going on quite a bit at the beginning of this administration. i had several discussions with the president on this very topic today. >> you expect personnel changes as a result? >> i do. actually yes, i do. >> how about that? >> yeah. so bret, there's been a lot of discussing about the leaking and the leaking of the leaking to the leakers and all that kind of stuff. you see leaking in every administration. it's one way. the group decides on a policy you don't like. as your last ditch effort, you leak it and hope that the blow-back out there will change the policy. this is way beyond that. >> bret: it is. there's a lot of them. it's happening with great frequency. i think to the genesis of this, one would think that there might be some issuance of an apology from the w

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