now dennis i think kemi badenoch . yeah. think kemi badenoch. yeah. far has been the highlight from the platform . i'm highlight from the platform. i'm punchy detail . well, taking the punchy detail. well, taking the argument to opponents and she was pretty robust on . brexit was pretty robust on. brexit >> are you going to take pay a clip? i'm sorry, andrew. no, you're not. okay well, i didn't really get what she was trying. oh how nice . i love the last oh how nice. i love the last minister you had on who said we were blessed ? the country was were blessed? the country was blessed to have rishi sunak as prime minister. i've never heard the invocation of god , of being the invocation of god, of being blessed because we have a particular prime minister but that's just the way the tory party is going. i didn't know what she was talking about because actually all the party leaders, ed davey, sir keir starmer, richard sunak are on the same page. no rejoin, no . the same page. no rejoin, no. the customs union, no return to freedom of movement . and she's

kemi here misunderstanding. here is no, look, this is saying, no, look, this is a conservative. you should be proud of the country rather than ashamed. and that's what conservatives it's conservatives want and that it's a great place be black and so a great place to be black and so on, people people on, and that people see people not obviously , she's not labels. and obviously, she's done she's and done very well. so she's and let's two things. let's be honest, two things. one, that's obviously a more positive outlook than i can't achieve anything. so aside from what the facts are for a second, it's obviously much better it's obviously a much better even if it's delusion, let's say it's to it's a much better delusion to have. idea of have. and secondly, this idea of multiculturalism, . multiculturalism, peston says. he quotes this i tell my children, is the best children, this is the best country world to black country in the world to be black because see people not because people see people not labelled, said,

nana does kemi badenoch have a point ? kemi badenoch have a point?. yes, it is literally the best country that i've been to as a black person . i've been to as a black person. >> um, i've been to i've been all across europe. i faced a lot of racism there. i lived in america for some time. that was incredibly segregated and quite racist . but, uh, australia , racist. but, uh, australia, there are very few people of colour there. they have their issues to this country. definitely rates as one of the top. i mean, it actually sounds like femi is agreeing with kenny with what he's saying there, because obviously , i mean, femi, because obviously, i mean, femi, you've got you you you've got you know, you graduated from oxford university, the best university, one of the best universities if universities in the world, if not many would say possibly the best. has a best. so this country has a lot to offer. and although there may be some barriers to entry in terms of colour, if you see it that way, there certainly weren't you weren't that many for you because

so we've kemi badenoch there we've got kemi badenoch there saying convicted rapists we've got kemi badenoch saying men should! rapists we've got kemi badenoch there saying men should notyists we've got kemi badenoch there saying men should not be; we've got kemi badenoch there saying men should not be going we've got kemi badenoch there sayi|women's should not be going we've got kemi badenoch there sayi|women's prison. not be going we've got kemi badenoch there sayi|women's prison. no bite going into women's prison. a bit of common well it is a bit common sense. well it is a bit of common really, isn't it? >> and in fact, the moj went further this at the further than this at the beginning of the year, actually, actually at the end of march, when it's any male prisoner who's been convicted of any violent or sexual offence , not violent or sexual offence, not just against women or any male prisoner who's got intact male genitalia is not eligible to be held in the female estate at all. >> and i think what's really significant about this is that it cuts across gender recognition, certificate st

kemi >> well, there we go. kemi badenoch there never knowingly undersold many people.ader of the conservative won't want conservative party won't want people talking about his successor soon. loads people talking about his succe still soon. loads people talking about his succe still to soon. loads people talking about his succe still to come. soon. loads people talking about his succe still to come. between ds people talking about his succe still to come. between now more still to come. between now and six, i will talk to a tory more still to come. between now and about will talk to a tory more still to come. between now and about the talk to a tory more still to come. between now and about the migranta tory more still to come. between now and about the migrant crisis that mp about the migrant crisis that will be happening in just a couple of minutes time. on the day gb news reveal 25,000 day that gb news reveal 25,000 people now crossed the people have now crossed the channel on small boats this yean channel on small boats this year. and one of the big arguments ragin

kemi badenoch. no.she's necessarily got the hugest respect when she dismissed all the eu regulations that were supposed to be getting burnt and she sort of, you know, i love kemi, not a brexiteer, she's not brexiteer enough, a bonfire. i was like, it wasn't about. yeah, the bonfire were expected was more like a piffle of smoke. and lost a little of smoke. and i lost a little bit of respect for kemi over that. but i love what she says. suella is probably more my cup of tea. >> i've got to say, i would i would bite your hand off kemi badenoch to be the leader of this country, but i'll this country, but maybe i'll have wait a few years. have to wait a few years. >> leader the opposition >> the leader of the opposition , after next election? , mark, after the next election? >> probably right. don't yourself . i right. don't yourself. i might >> don't kid yourself. i might said that. >> meanwhile, rishi sunak off to california . california. >> still got the green card. >> still got the green card. >> thank y

this woman, kemi badenoch , who this woman, kemi badenoch, who i'm finding out more about and the think's happening the way i think what's happening is, is sunday times is kind is, is the sunday times is kind of her to the new of positioning her to be the new replacement for rishi sunak because as she's coming out with all these great ideas and she's just the latest person who's and i think because she's a person of colour, she was born in nigeria , india. she actually nigeria, india. she actually grew up in america . and then she grew up in america. and then she moved back here. so it's quite possible she could represent three countries and someone who left america because their career needed it. >> you've got a lot in common with this. is that. >> yeah, i think i think with her it's going to work out better than it's worked out for me. >> yeah. nick, you all know about this. look, people about this. look, some people think rishi's benefiting think that rishi's benefiting from having people around him saying can't get from having people around him sayin with, can't get from having peop

when kemi badenoch made that speech at conservative conference, i broadly agree with her. where where i would disagree with her or i would caveat it is when she says it's the best place to grow up. if you're from a minority community, it's a pretty in europe, it's a pretty low bar because other parts of europe are terrible. there's lots to do. areas lots of work to do. those areas shouldn't those areas where we've level of we've got that level of division, appalling. we've got that level of divisof1, appalling. we've got that level of divisof the appalling. we've got that level of divisof the one appalling. we've got that level of divisof the one ofpalling. we've got that level of divisof the one of theing. we've got that level of divisof the one of the functions one of the one of the functions of the past decade of austerity is the programs and the is some of the programs and the activities that were breaking is some of the programs and the activiithose at were breaking is some of the programs and the activiithose barriers, ireaking is some of the programs and the activii

the ot kemi badenoch. on top you like to lead the party? the ot kemi badenoch.'son top you like to lead the party? the ot kemi badenoch. she's talking is kemi badenoch. she's talking about echr . i mean, this is about the echr. i mean, this is again bit meat being again a bit of red meat being thrown to the right. she seems to be suggesting i'm to be suggesting and i'm intrigued this intrigued because this is appearing in all the appearing in all of the different interviews, oh, we can't off table . we can't take it off the table. we just extrapolate that for people listening watching, listening and watching, nigel, because all of these because clearly all of these cabinet have fed because clearly all of these c.lineet have fed because clearly all of these c.line about have fed because clearly all of these c.line about the have fed because clearly all of these c.line about the havethat fed because clearly all of these c.line about the havethat they a line about the echr that they are trying to leave the door open to us leaving it. >> yes, i think we're being sof

>> well , those who oppose kemi >> well, those who oppose kemi badenoch views , i'd ask them, badenochn would enjoy a greater national package of demographic demographic , democratic freedoms demographic, democratic freedoms , legal protections, social stability and economic opportunities . i think what she opportunities. i think what she said was largely correct. i think in the western european context post brexit, britain comfortable , she outperforms comfortable, she outperforms other countries such as germany . other countries such as germany , the netherlands, france, spain and italy when it comes to providing anti—discrimination protections on the grounds of race, ethnicity and religion . race, ethnicity and religion. >> and now i'll be here, who's very interested in race relations in this country, i think has a question for you. >> raqeeb raqeeb another thing which happened in the news of course, was a controversy which has fiona bruce for has surrounds fiona bruce for identifying one of the people who was asking a question on question time as that black guy over there. do you t

>> well , those who oppose kemi >> well, those who oppose kemi badenoch views , i'd ask them, badenochrson would enjoy a greater national package of demographic demographic , democratic freedoms demographic, democratic freedoms , legal protections, social stability and economic opportunities . i think what she opportunities. i think what she said was largely correct. i think in the western european context post brexit, britain comfortable , she outperforms comfortable, she outperforms other countries such as germany . other countries such as germany , the netherlands, france, spain and italy when it comes to providing anti—discrimination protections on the grounds of race, ethnicity and religion . race, ethnicity and religion. >> and now i'll be here, who's very interested in race relations in this country, i think has a question for you. >> raqeeb raqeeb another thing which happened in the news of course, was a controversy which has fiona bruce for has surrounds fiona bruce for identifying one of the people who was asking a question on question time as that black guy over there. do yo

her kemi badenoch future tory leader? >> pateloo. her kemi badenoch future tory leader?ader? >> patel all contender badenoch future tory leader? >> patel all contender is. :ienoch priti patel all contender is. and i think . and i think. >> which of the three would you vote for? oh, you've got to. you've got to vote. don't sit on the fence like this bloke. >> that's a good question. actually, it's between mean. look my top three are priti patel, not liz. priti patel. suella braverman and kemi badenoch. >> which one would be the top of the list ? the list? >> suella braverman interesting , isn't it? >> interesting. >> interesting. >> vote for the from the teenagers. >> yeah. and just two remarkable actually, because what what struck me being here this week , struck me being here this week, it's not easy to even become an mp, is it? it's not easy to even become an mp, is it ? the it's not easy to even become an mp, is it? the resilience required to be knocking on doors to be carrying clipboards, to be selected by your local association? thank you. that's what i'm looking fo

kemi badenoch. you like her? yep. why? a more diverse face for the party.averman suggest the tories could be heading to the right. i mean, she's so passionate and so to the point that it was brilliant. she could definitely be a future leader. i was completely impressed. we are completely inspired. bookmakers suggest the top five most likely successors to rishi sunak are today's headliner suella braverman, leader of the house penny morduant, who played a starring role with a sword in the king's coronation, kemi badenoch, who has an extraordinary rise after first being elected just six years ago, foreign secretary james cleverly, a rare survivor through the may, johnson, truss and sunak administrations, gillian keegan, the education secretary, who says she has done a (bleep) good job. is it savage or sensible that even though rishi sunak could have another year in the job at least, some in his party already seem to be measuring his political pulse? the question over who's next is a very live conversation topic here. even their opinions differ on the alchemy o

what kemi badenoch is going to be speakingoffer to businesses|at kemi badenoch is going to be speakingofferonservative hands? >> well, business rates, i mean, business rates really are still hugely crippling for many retailers and they find it almost impossible to trade retailers anyway, tend to have a smaller margin than than most products and services . is products and services. is retailing trades on small margins. and when you get these business rates hitting them so hard as well as, of course, vat on so many products, corporation tax and they have their own corporation tax. i mean, it some glimmer of hope again from her would be helpful. and i think business rates are the key. i think if they could be at least held, maybe even they hint at reducing them again, i don't think they're going to do anything much this year, but that doesn't mean to say they're not going to do a lot next year, but they just have to signal that things are on the up and next year will be a time for good news. >> okay. i hope so. thank you. i hope so, too. business trade secretary kemi badenoch will be talking t

de daily mail, is the best country to be black in says kemi medlock.axe down on hsz the times, bm brings the axe down on hs2 in the north. the guardian, bishop accused of cancelling the future with the climb—down on hs2 for top that's all from us tonight. we're back from here tomorrow. perhaps we'll have an hs2 decision by then. goodnight. you're live with bbc news. the former chief executive of global fashion brand abercrombie & fitch and his british partner are facing allegations of exploitation from men recruited for six events they hosted around the world. a bbc investigation found a highly organised operation running the events, with a middleman finding young adult men for mikejeffries and his partner matthew smith. eight men told the bbc they attended these events, some of whom alleged they were exploited or abused. mrjeffries and mr smith did not respond to requests for comment. abercrombie says it's conducting an independent investigation into the allegations. rianna croxford has the story. in the early 20005, abercrombie and fitch became one o

if to what kemi badenoch is down to what kemi badenoch is talking here. she talking about here.he talks unwritten rule talking about here. and she talk the unwritten rule talking about here. and she talk the social unwritten rule talking about here. and she talk the social contracten rule talking about here. and she talk the social contract of rule talking about here. and she talk the social contract of our. and the social contract of our country. but this is the problem. when you treat countries as just economies and you just we can just have you just say, we can just have anyone country they anyone in this country they don't integrate into don't need to integrate into our values, this values, then of course this is going things values, then of course this is goin unwritten things values, then of course this is goin unwritten rules things values, then of course this is goin unwritten rules social s like unwritten rules and social contracts organically contracts evolve organically over hundreds of years. so of course we're going these course we're going to have these kind this i

and thank you, kemi badenoch, for cutting weight brussels red tape and saving small businesses billionse. —— brussels' red tape. brexit was more than a vote to leave the eu, it was a vote to change, to become something more. it was a statement of our belief that britain could begin a new story, one which reached all parts of our country and everyone in it. we must keep making the case for taking back control. if we don't, our opponents will try and neuter this change, to align us with the european union so that we never see is the full opportunities of brexit. and we know where keir starmer�*s heart lies on this issue, and we know he cannot be trusted on it either. first, he said he would respect the referendum result. then he wanted a second referendum. then he wanted a second referendum. then he wanted a second referendum. then he wanted free movement. then he didn't. he said he wouldn't try to renegotiate our deal, then he said he would. and then just two weeks ago, he was caught on camera telling ago, he was caught on camera telling a meeting of international politicians that he now

and so you've got kemi badenoch , you've you've got kemi badenoch, you've got suella braverman, you'veiti patel, all putting out their stall and actually not the ghost of liz truss, the ghost of liz truss, rather like bank were turning up at the feast. >> yes. i mean and liz truss just cause causing trouble i mean no no no no apology , no nothing. >> just saying you know i was right. >> i was right. shouldn't right. >> i was right . shouldn't regret >> i was right. shouldn't regret if only she was good looking and the voice was equally good. but i think there's another point which is about women's looks. well i think we can. i'm prepared to have women talk about rugby players bottoms because excited. david because i'm quite excited. david let's let's talk about politics because. >> but what what what we've seriously got so you've got you've got andrew mitchell who's a secretary of state for international development, saying exactly what you're saying. let's all gather around, rishi. meanwhile while, you know, out there in the real world, 60 people have signed , 60 world, 60 people have

. >> go to where kemi >> i'll go to where kemi badenoch. is the best place in the world to live as a black person and she is correct. nowhere else in the world they a debate world are they having a debate around , you know, how we around, you know, how can we progress our black progress in our black communities ways ? communities in equitable ways? we are wringing our hands and whilst our hands, whilst we're wringing our hands, we pay attention. we should also pay attention. the we are doing the fact that we are doing reasonably well. course reasonably well. of course we could better , but we are could do better, but we are doing well. and if you compare us else, we are light us to anybody else, we are light years . we america years ahead. we look at america as where we're going. on race. i hope not. >> we are. they're completely different. >> exactly. but the point, don't get yourself and think get ahead of yourself and think that in post—racial that we live in a post—racial society because don't. society because we don't. >> that's we can

so you have people like suella braverman and kemi badenoch . um braverman and kemi badenoch. within the cabinet and then you have priti patel who thinks that by staying out of the cabinet, she's proved herself. now, i was going to say as the first thing is that the good news for the tories is it can't be as bad as last year when you had liz truss and everything going down. but now that liz is thinking now that liz truss is thinking that could be the next that she could be the next leader as well , i mean this is leader as well, i mean this is a complete disaster . complete disaster. >> esther it's going to be interesting , isn't it, when we interesting, isn't it, when we i know it's looking fonnard another week, but comparing and contrasting to labour, obviously they're a lot. they're going to be a lot. labouris they're going to be a lot. labour is going to be a lot more buoyant than the tories in many respects understand. but respects understand. so but they're not putting lot they're still not putting a lot on the they're still not on the table. they're still not giving a f

once defined by the business secretary kemi badenoch as an ideology that sees blackness as victimhood included all sorts of ideological driven points, as the disparities points, such as the disparities can exclusively be explained by racism, or that readers ought to promise to listen and to amplify the of of colour. the voices of people of colour. it also cited expert in black it also cited an expert in black studies who has previously accused late queen elizabeth accused the late queen elizabeth ii being a symbol of white ii of being a symbol of white supremacy and compared churchill to hitler. well joining me now is one of the organisers of black lives matters protest in 2020. imran aiden. well, thank you very much for joining me. 2020. imran aiden. well, thank you very much forjoining me. do you very much forjoining me. do you think the bbc should be promoting this in an educational setting or should be more balanced out? >> i it's a tricky line to >> i think it's a tricky line to kind of follow , but i think kind of follow, but i think they're doing a decent job in terms of impart

and thank you , kemi, for cutting and thank you, kemi, for cutting away brussels red tape and savingall businesses. £1 billion a year. brexit was more than a vote to leave the eu . it was a vote to leave the eu. it was a vote to change to become something more . it was a statement of our belief that britain could begin a new story, one which reached all parts of our country and everyone in it . we must keep everyone in it. we must keep making the case for taking back control because if we don't, our opponents will try and neuter this change to align us with the european union so that we never seize the full opportunities of brexit. now we know where keir starmer's heart lies on this issue and we know he can't be trusted on it either . first, he trusted on it either. first, he said he'd respect the referendum result , then he wanted a second result, then he wanted a second referendum, then he wanted free movement . then he didn't referendum, then he wanted free movement. then he didn't. he said he wouldn't try and renegotiate our deal . then he renegotiate our deal. then he said he wo

and here it happened and called and it was immediately called out. if kemi out.f kemi badenoch called badenoch hadn't and called for this then baroness this inquiry, then baroness falkner would be tarred for life as some sort of bigot when the reality was all she was saying was competing of was there's competing set of rights here. and she laid out that it says very clearly the that it says very clearly in the hrc women have the right to hrc that women have the right to safe spaces. was all i do safe spaces. that was all i do remember. >> can't what it was, >> i can't remember what it was, but there was one particular phrase i remember phrase which i remember thinking seemed that seemed perfectly reasonable that people screaming people were screaming and clutching about and clutching their pearls about and this was some time ago now, though, wasn't it? it was. >> it was about six months ago. they started something they started this or something like that. >> seen all it to >> i haven't seen all of it to remind myself. i've also heard this, though. can be bad not

so i think we should doing kemi should be doing i think kemi badenoch but badenoch spoke quite well,tty well. i think joseph, we're come to you, give we're going to come to you, give you final word on this, you the final word on this, because know you're deeply because i know you're deeply upset current situation upset over the current situation and a jewish person. and you're a jewish person. >> of your of >> you're not ashamed of your of your background, culture, your background, your culture, your background, your culture, your you're quite your family. you're quite happy to well. you know, to promote it as well. you know, you need think you need to you need to i think you need to carry on you're and carry on what you're doing. and don't ashamed of your don't be ashamed of your background because you're a brave luis is a brave brave man and luis is a brave lady. but what would you say to people out there, especially government that's watching so two i've family's two things i've my family's lived in this country for centuries, no longer feel centuries, and i no longer feel safe he

so i think we should doing kemi should be doing i think kemi badenoch but badenoch spoke quite well,tty well. i think joseph, we're come to you, give we're going to come to you, give you final word on this, you the final word on this, because know you're deeply because i know you're deeply upset current situation upset over the current situation and a jewish person. and you're a jewish person. >> of your of >> you're not ashamed of your of your background, culture, your background, your culture, your background, your culture, your you're quite your family. you're quite happy to well. you know, to promote it as well. you know, you need think you need to you need to i think you need to carry on you're and carry on what you're doing. and don't ashamed of your don't be ashamed of your background because you're a brave luis is a brave brave man and luis is a brave lady. but what would you say to people out there, especially government that's watching so two i've family's two things i've my family's lived in this country for centuries, no longer feel centuries, and i no longer feel safe he

i've seen she's being named priti patel, suella braverman kemi kemi braverman an kemi badenoch kemi badenoch noc james cleverly. >> james cleverly. >> james cleverly. >> i'm just trying to think of possible leadership candidates. yeah. so yeah, well, i mean , he yeah. so yeah, well, i mean, he both, he gets on, that's a different matter. both, he gets on, that's a differeni matter. both, he gets on, that's a differeni think�*r. both, he gets on, that's a differeni think he's got his hat >> but i think he's got his hat in ring. there i mean he in the ring. there i mean he wasn't he involved in the shenanigans back, back when, when sunak yeah. >> we're going to go to >> okay. we're going to go to the all the purse the man that holds all the purse strings for the country, the chancellor, jeremy hunt, chancellor, jeremy hunt, chancellor, lovely to see you. >> thank you very much indeed. big day for you today at conference. >> good morning, eamonn . yes, >> good morning, eamonn. yes, it's a big day. every day is a big day here in manchester. but yes . good morning. nice to see you. >> so tell me

i believe that we migfrom from kemi kemi.ittle bit from from kemi kemi badenoch, was also very badenochthis strong on this, was this conservative government that stopped shameful snp and labour politicians in scotland pursuing a self—id policy that let convicted rapists pretend that they were actually women. >> so they could be housed in a women's prison with potential new victims . new victims. >> yeah, let me know how you feel about all of this. if you are indeed a woman and let me know. vaiews@gbnews.com. do you now feel more inclined to vote for the conservative party i.e. the conservative party were also accused by one conservative party member who i actually caught up with last night after he was booted out of the conference of being transphobes nick and i wonder whether or not by virtue of saying things like, look, hey , we're going to we're look, hey, we're going to we're going to clamp down on this gender ideology , if they've gender ideology, if they've riled up arguments about being transphobic, i think from a purely political sense, i would argue as well, maybe from a from a

some of the names floating are suella braverman, the home secretary, kemi badenoch, the business and secretary. the implication of the question being asked is that sunak is going to lose. so the mood here is one of slight resignation. kriti: lizzy burden, our u.k. correspondent, joining us live from the conservative party conference in manchester. we will continue the conversation about u.k. politics throughout the morning. guests including the director general of the cbi, as well as the former policy director for david cameron on. in the meantime, let's look quickly at some big stories from around the world, starting in sweden. alecta, the swedish pension fund, embroiled in the sbb followed as it announced that its chairman will leave with immediate effect. the departure comes following $2 billion of losses from failed investments. those missteps have forced out the fund's chief executive officer and a of equities. several taiwanese technology companies are helping huawei build infrastructure for an under the radar network of chip plants across southern china. the firms were present

a fantasy world, set in the fictional planet of kemi, tells a story of inhabitants who longed to possessthor sandra carter, pupils at holt school are enjoying an insight into herjourney as a writer. where she would describe what the streets look like, the smells, the sights, it's really important to create sensory imagery in a story. the way she used her language, so i remember she used a simile, like a melody or something. ifound it... it's very provocative. i like i was there, _ in the moment, with characters. the event is one of many that have been taking place as part of europe's biggest black book festival to raise awareness diverse authors which new audiences make books accessible to all. for more stories from across the uk, head to the bbc news website. - you're live with bbc news. let's turn to india, the officers of homes ofjournalists working for an independent news website had been raided today by police in the indian capital, delhi. the operation follows allegations the new site newsclick was receiving illegal funding from china, which it has firmly denied. i spoke to our sou

now to be fair, badenoch is saying it fair, kemi badenoch is saying it won't do that.ted without a chilling effect. though the bill is still being drawn up, but we'll actually have a more leftist policy than scotland here. i mean, how embarrassing is postponed the is that? they've postponed the ban on conversion therapy amid warnings that could criminalise parents who question their child's wish to change gender. so has done the so scotland has done the sensible thing and have . and sensible thing and we have. and that's is. yeah that's how bad this is. yeah >> mean, what are the >> i mean, steve, what are the dangers here like sort of explain it for layman's term. >> it comes down to details. >> it all comes down to details. so that if have so the idea that if you have a conversation where, nick conversation where, as nick says, you question someone's says, if you question someone's gender identity, well, not even question if they if they say they're questioning their gender identity and you say, oh, are you sure? yeah. under one version of this that seems like you in

do, we've got, i think, a kemi badenoch. so kemi badenoch was always been was talking. she's always been very this . we'll play very strong on this. we'll play that i'll get to react that clip. i'll get you to react to was this conservative >> was this conservative government that stopped shameful snp and labour politicians in scotland pursuing a self—id policy that let convicted rapists pretend that they were actually women, so they could be housed in a women's prison with potential new victims and seamlessly just like that. >> we have the other big statement on gender from the tories at conference. no men in women's prisons. yeah i speak about this a lot and i mean a lot on social media because i've got two daughters and i don't want this future as one where there's men that are dressing up as women in their toilets, in their changing rooms , you know, their changing rooms, you know, everywhere where they shouldn't be just because they want to wear women's clothes. >> they're not women . there's >> they're not women. there

been some increases and decreases of note i >> but -- >> buti >> but i think if you're looking at kemi with it. i think that this is something that i've said many times before on gb news that we are a relatively successful multiracial democracy . we've multiracial democracy. we've seen that the race related hate crimes, even though they make up the largest portion of hate crimes, are actually down from last year . and i think in terms last year. and i think in terms of religious hate crimes, you mentioned there, patrick, there has been an increase. yeah and while i do argue that britain is one of the best places to live as a religious minority, we should do more to tackle various forms of anti—muslim prejudice and anti semitism. i also noticed, though, that i think 7% of the religious hate crimes were reported by people with the christian identification as well. and i have been concerned by growing forms of anti—christian sentiment, in my view, which is almost seen as a more acceptable form of discrimination. i don't think that's right at all. but the one point i think we should make,

so when you hear when you hear ministers like kemi badenoch talking about unintended consequences andering from gender distress about transitioning cannot be criminalised. >> what do you say to that? because surely it cannot be right that therapists and families having those difficult conversations are banned from doing so, doing so as a result of this legislation ? of this legislation? >> well, it's complete hogwash. i'll be nobody's banning those conversations. and kemi knows that this is purely a ruse by those who have a different agenda, who don't like trans people, who don't think that young people should be exposed to trans what they call ideology. all conversations, whether they're in the therapist chair, whether they're in the ministry of a religious leader or a parental home that challenges a young person, are good and right and proper. but it's when they're told that they can never be trans or they can never be gay because it doesn't fit with their culture. that predetermined purpose , which is predetermined purpose, which is what the lawyers around the world have come toget

a trade minister, kemi badenoch , said minister, kemi badenoch, said she would not apologise for fighting. >> outrageous. >> outrageous. >> send her to the gulag now . >> send her to the gulag now. and what about that outrageous bigot? health secretary steve barclay , who has pledged to keep barclay, who has pledged to keep biological men out of single sex female wards on the grounds of women's safety? what a heathen. 50 lashes for this non—believer . 50 lashes for this non—believer. for now, the excellent guido fawkes political website have unearthed correspondence from the human resources director at lloyds bank who declares her pronouns . of course she does. in pronouns. of course she does. in an email sent to 30,000 members of staff. and here's what she said. dear role. like many of you, i was appalled to hear the rhetoric coming from the conservative party conference this week targeting the trans and non—binary. this week targeting the trans and non—binary . community and non—binary. community outrageous. the prime minister targeting delegates with information about human beings , in

a massiand indeed the nation kemi party and indeed the nation kemi badenoch tipped by many to be the this hour as well. she says tories are the says that the tories are the only definitively only party who can definitively tell what a woman is and the tell you what a woman is and the biggest noise of the day so far. the biggest shock for many was nigel farage walking this very path this studio here. path to this very studio here. he will also be on my show and are there rumblings that he could even rejoin the conservative party? surely not. it's all to play for. yes, indeed. later on today . yes, indeed. later on today. i've also got the latest on this afternoon's huge breaking news story on hs2. will we be reporting very soon that the latest leg to manchester has been scrapped? i've got deputy chair of the party, lee anderson , with me, liam halligan. we'll be picking through it as well as, of course, our political editor, hope , and editor, christopher hope, and much, that's to much, much more. so that's to all play now between now and all play for now between now and 6:00. your la

so now things kemi things have changed.ng on actually making sure that biological sex is what is actually what actually matters, not the sex that you are to get a big that you are going to get a big shock when all trans men shock when all the trans men come the women's loos because come in the women's loos because that's for ulti m ately. >> b ut ulti m ately. >> but they ultimately. >> but they shouldn't be allowed women women, though, they're >> the women, though, they're women. why women. the biological women. why would about that? would i be shocked about that? >> in. yeah. sorry >> oh, coming in. yeah. sorry the women. yeah. keeping the beds going, but sharing a bedroom the load of women. >> and that's not the main issue. main issue is the issue. the main issue is the hijacking language the actual. >> yeah, i think and it doesn't stop just with gender ideology. it it moves into the ethnic it also it moves into the ethnic ethnic as it moves into ethnic minority as it moves into this, you know, equality die , this, you k