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business secretary kemi badenoch, who joined me on thursday for an exclusive interview. and i'll be joined by a political panel to dissect what she had to say. pat mcfadden, the mastermind behind labour's election campaign, will be here to clarify the party's tax plans and who labour regards as working people, and demographer paul morland is worried about our plummeting birth rates. he'll be to here explain why we should all be worried about underpopulation. we have got an absolutely huge 90 minutes of punchy politics lined up for you this morning, so do not even think of going anywhere. well, to go through the papers this morning, i'm delighted to be joined now by giles kenningham, former number 10 head of press. lovely to see you this morning, giles. let's get stuck into the sunday times. i'm saying sign of the times. basically, they've endorsed laboun basically, they've endorsed labour. yeah they have. >> it's not been effusive. heavily caveated . heavily caveated. >> yes, it's a long leader and it's kind of like well, the tories haven't been very good and we're worri

kim kemi badenoch as well.witter or x, whatever we call it these days, she says, i will not shut up and i will not be silenced by men who prioritise. applause from stonewall over the safety of women and children, what? what do you actually think to this whole situation? do you think it's been overhyped? do you think there's something in this? one of the, concerns. and people are so divided on this because some people will say this whole trans conversation, you know, it's a really small minor issue. other people will say, actually, this whole notion about women and children having safe spaces and biological reality is really, really important to you. it will divide people. i'm sure , through to the people. i'm sure, through to the general election and beyond. look that's all i've got time for tonight. i've had a few people get in touch and say, you should be the prime minister you've had that before on this program as well. and i think i've even had it, too. there you go. we could all be. do us. yeah.in go. we c

you're watching england and kemi.turn to reform kemi badenoch says her heart breaks when tory supporters defect to reforms. she admitted that no seatis reforms. she admitted that no seat is safe in this election, even hers, with a 20,000 plus majority . even hers, with a 20,000 plus majority. guardian even hers, with a 20,000 plus majority . guardian now labour majority. guardian now labour can stem populist threat by improving lives , says starmer improving lives, says starmer keir starmer has warned that a new labour government would have to stave off a rise of the populist right by urgently restoring faith in british politics through deeds , not politics through deeds, not words, and making a material difference to people's lives. as the election campaign enters its final days. the labour leader said that while hope has been kicked out of people, his plans for economic growth across the country, the nhs and the transition to renewables could help bring it back and far right takes the lead in the french elections .

what did you make of kemi's response?m still reeling, bev, because while i've been waiting to come on, i think i heard you say that keir starmer, probably our prime minister in a week's time, is a bit thick. >> yeah, i did, but we can talk about that . on another occasion. about that. on another occasion. we were talking about the fact that he wasn't thinking on his feet during the debates. so let's stick with this issue. response to kemi badenoch, please . please. >> i think it's a bit of a sideshow because as always, with these toxic culture wars, the people who are damaged are the people who are damaged are the people who are struggling to live their best lives in the real world. and i want to be completely clear about this. as someone who is known to be a left leaning commentator, i absolutely respect women's rights. they've been incredibly hard won. it women have had an incredibly tough time for centuries, and still women are fighting for equality in modern day britain. so that's the first thing i want to say. i also

also, how ever until we wake up and kemi badenoch doesn't exist anymore ? it's not doesn't exist anymore? it's not the former doctor who wishing death upon kemi badenoch and we go live to tenerife as the hunt for jay slater continues. >> and they are queuing up in calais waiting for a starmer government so they can come here and stay here. >> sunak say starmer will put illegal migrants on our streets. on my panel tonight it's the political editor at the express, sam lister. i've got journalist benjamin butterworth and the founder of global britain, ammon baggaley, plus , i'll show you baggaley, plus, i'll show you what sparked this terrifying heathrow blaze that's happening right now, apparently. and can you guess what happens next here? oh get ready britain. here we go . we go. how's rishi sunak? just wandered into yet another trap. next . into yet another trap. next. >> good evening and welcome to gb news. and the top story tonight, britain's next government. it said , will face government. it said, will face big decisions on taxes and the size of the sta

used to work for kemi badenoch _ picture for his party.ch and she will. picture for his party. used to workj for kemi badenoch and she will no doubt be fighting for every vote for the conservatives but there are people like her and penny mordaunt and others who will be forgiven for looking post—election and thinking, what are their chances if they keep their own seats of being the next leader? , ., ., , , , leader? yes, that will inevitably be the case, leader? yes, that will inevitably be the case. and _ leader? yes, that will inevitably be the case, and i'm _ leader? yes, that will inevitably be the case, and i'm sure _ leader? yes, that will inevitably be the case, and i'm sure that - leader? yes, that will inevitably be the case, and i'm sure that has - leader? yes, that will inevitably be i the case, and i'm sure that has been the case, and i'm sure that has been the case, and i'm sure that has been the case for a while and i don't think anybody is under any impression that rishi sunak intends to remain a backbench mp if he loses for

so david tennant did this appalling speech, frankly, where he said that, kemi people like kemi badenocht exist. he said i until we wake up and kemi badenoch doesn't exist anymore, then he sort of correct himself, said, i don't wish ill of her, i just wish her to shut up, which is an appalling thing to say. he's sort of trying to be funny, wasn't he? to be fair, not really. >> even amongst got a big cheer in the room. all these luvvies were like, yes, get a laugh . were like, yes, get a laugh. >> yes, kill, kill these people. kill tories, even amongst actors, he stands out as particularly annoying, which is a heck of an achievement. >> so it was very it was awful then his. but my critique is also of kemi's response because she responded and said she talked about tennant being a she said i will not show up, which is fair enough. i will not be silenced by men who prioritise applause from stonewall over the safety of women and girls. but then, she said, a rich leftie white male celebrity so blinded by ideology he can't see the opfics by ideology he can't see the optics of attacking the only

kemi badenoch already problem. kemi badenoch already hit back yesterday by saying this. said i will not shut up. i will not be silenced by men who prioritise. applause from stonewall over the safety of women and girls. a rich leftie white male celebrity so bunded leftie white male celebrity so blinded by ideology he can't see the optics of attacking the only black woman in government by calling publicly for my existence to end, she went on. keir starmer stood by while rosie duffield was hounded. he and his supporters will do the same with the country. do not let the bigots and bullies win . let the bigots and bullies win. and that's an interesting point, isn't it? because this is now yet another issue around women's rights that has divided the labour party. dawn butler waded in today. remember her, and backed tennant, saying not all black women think the same. i agree with david tennant . that's agree with david tennant. that's it. that's the tweet . 54 year it. that's the tweet. 54 year old dawn butler there, by the way, tweeting like a 16 year old. but there we go. an

following the labour party's confusion about its own policy regarding gender ideology and transition, kemi badenoch and the actor david tennant have come to blows over trans rights and after nigel farage's recent comments about ukraine and the role of nato expansion, i'll be exploring the deep history of that conflict with a top academic state of the nation . academic state of the nation. starts now . starts now. i'll also be joined by my panel historian and broadcaster tessa dunlop and the journalist and broadcaster benedict spence. now it's broadcaster benedict spence. now wsfime broadcaster benedict spence. now it's time for the news bulletin with polly middlehurst . with polly middlehurst. >> set to lose most of their seats and will likely have fewer seats and will likely have fewer seats than the liberal democrats. which means , democrats. which means, according to this new research, the lib dems are most likely to become the official opposition. the new poll looks like this. it's from electoral calculus, andifs it's from electoral calculus, and it's forecast labour will win 450 seats,

kemi good morning miriam. kemi badenoch has morning. good to see you.st electioneering, and they could have done it sooner . electioneering, and they could have done it sooner. is that the case? >> well, of course , it's always >> well, of course, it's always the case that things could have happened faster. >> but actually, this has been, as part of the plan for a while. a year ago, this was debated in parliament, just less than a year ago as a big debate in westminster hall, a number of mps , including myself, spoke mps, including myself, spoke about the need to do this and that was off the back of a campaign run by the charity sex matters , and also matters, and also recommendations from the equalities and human rights commission, recommending that kemi badenoch did exactly this. so of course, this is now a policy announcement mid campaign. it will be in the manifesto, but had the election not been called when it was, i do understand that this would probably be in part of next term's legislation. if you like . term's legislation. if you like. but yet

be a range of print mps, i think kemi badenoch is a strong candidate, — i think kemi badenoch is a strong bit weird calling — candidate, it feels a bit weird calling out who should be leader before _ calling out who should be leader before the election. but if there were _ before the election. but if there were to — before the election. but if there were to be a leadership election, after— were to be a leadership election, after the — were to be a leadership election, after the election, which have the choice _ after the election, which have the choice have lost it... can after the election, which have the choice have lost it. . ._ after the election, which have the choice have lost it... can she warn the seat for _ choice have lost it... can she warn the seat for the return _ choice have lost it... can she warn the seat for the return of a - the seat for the return of a good friend borisjohnson? it is the seat for the return of a good friend boris johnson?_ the seat for the return of a good friend boris johnson? it is all such massive speculation. _ friend boris johnson? it is all such m

this is what kemi badenoch , the women in kemi badenoch, the women in equalities minister, told gb newsearlier. >> problem we're solving is for many organisations like rape crisis centres , prisons, for crisis centres, prisons, for instance, where people may identify as a woman even though they're biologically male and they're biologically male and they don't know what to do. and we are clarifying what, public authorities need to do. what perhaps individual private institutions, rights are a lot of them are worried about being sued, even when they're doing the right thing. so this is a tidy up of law. so that we can create a better for space, this conversation . conversation. >> and here's what the liberal democrats daisy cooper, had to say . say. >> i do think it is a cynical move in a general election campaign to try and wage another phoney culture war. but on the very specific policy, what i would say is that liberal democrats have always said that if there is any confusion amongst service providers, then more guidance can be provided . more guidance can be provided. >> joanne lockwo

this is what kemi badenoch , the women in kemi badenoch, the women in equalities minister, told gb newsearlier. >> problem we're solving is for many organisations like rape crisis centres , prisons, for crisis centres, prisons, for instance, where people may identify as a woman even though they're biologically male and they're biologically male and they don't know what to do. and we are clarifying what, public authorities need to do. what perhaps individual private institutions, rights are a lot of them are worried about being sued, even when they're doing the right thing. so this is a tidy up of law. so that we can create a better for space, this conversation . conversation. >> and here's what the liberal democrats daisy cooper, had to say . say. >> i do think it is a cynical move in a general election campaign to try and wage another phoney culture war. but on the very specific policy, what i would say is that liberal democrats have always said that if there is any confusion amongst service providers, then more guidance can be provided . more guidance can be provided. >> joanne lockwo

>> well, it was, kemi badenoch.an, the education secretary, and they announced, well, the, the announced, well, the, the announced the consultation on a policy which will stop children being taught that there's 103 genders and you can you can choose which one from the smorgasbord. and if you haven't got a gender identity, then perhaps you should go and find one. >> and this was mid—concert in the election sort of broke through that process . and now through that process. and now the labour party are saying that they might not necessarily restart it were they to get into office. yes. >> clearly it was something that caught bridget phillipson out, i suspect, and she wasn't clear on what labour will do. and it just bnngs what labour will do. and it just brings a lot of uncertainty to the classroom. it brings a lot of uncertainty to teachers. we need a bit more certainty to teachers in what we should be teaching children and what we should not be teaching children. >> i think everyone can agree that certainty is very go

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you're gonna get yourself kemi by saying something like that.'s true, i can understand why kemi badenoch wants to call out white liberals on twitter, because they come to me all the time. they come, they come for kemi. all the time and say we're coming for them. kemi badenoch always quotes that marvellous quote from martin luther king that she wants people to be judged on the content of their character , not content of their character, not the colour of their skin. is she not doing precisely the opposite in speaking out against people and even mentioning their colour while doing it? well, she didn't just criticise him for his protected characteristics. actually, that's not a protected characteristic, is it? he didn't. she didn't just criticise him because of his identity . she criticised him identity. she criticised him because of the stance that he is taking on what is really quite a serious issue . and actually, i serious issue. and actually, i think highlighting the hypocrisy that if someone like david tennant were to tell diane abbott to shu

i would not be massively upset if kemi badenoch became teader~ — upset if kemi badenoch became teader could do _ as leader of the tory party. maybe he could do it _ as leader of the tory party. maybe he could do it from _ as leader of the tory party. maybe he could do it from the _ as leader of the tory party. maybe he could do it from the house - as leader of the tory party. maybe he could do it from the house of l he could do it from the house of lords. �* . i. he could do it from the house of lords. �* , i, , i, lords. but it is a party without talent now- — lords. but it is a party without talent now. that _ lords. but it is a party without talent now. that is _ lords. but it is a party without. talent now. that is fundamentally the problem _ talent now. that is fundamentally the problem i— talent now. that is fundamentally the problem-— talent now. that is fundamentally the roblem. ~' i, the problem. i think there are some fantastic candidates _ the problem. i think there are some fantastic candidates coming - the problem. i think there are some fantastic candidates coming up. -

kemi badenoch, administration. kemi badenoch, has been saying that we are rushing into doing this.art of an administration for five years that did nothing, didn't have the discussions, didn't have the appropriate talks with the relevant professionals and the people involved and could have worked that through and just ducked the issue completely and has left it for the new administration. absolutely. there are risks . absolutely. we there are risks. absolutely. we need to write good law that takes into account the risks. that doesn't criminalise parents for having a discussion with their children, doesn't criminalise medical professionals for having an appropriate conversation. i transitioned 13 years ago. i had those conversations with therapists beforehand to ensure that i was indeed trans and i wasn't something else, and there wasn't something else, and there wasn't something else, and there wasn't something being hidden there. it's absolutely right to have those discussions because these are really serious decisions. >> i just i just wonder , robin, >> i just i just wonder, robi

this proposal by kemi badenoch . proposal by kemi badenoch. >> that's right.he tories done that before? there have been in government for the past 14 years, and certainly this equality has been around for since the labour days. but anyway, they haven't done that. they want to define a woman as they want to basically say that you define as how you were born. if you were born a woman, you are a woman . and then that would are a woman. and then that would follow that you have access to, to shared or not shared toilets in public bodies . now, currently in public bodies. now, currently kemi badenoch has been saying this is to give protection for pubuc this is to give protection for public authorities and other companies that want to enforce safe spaces for women and not face any legal action. but of course, it has caused it has meant that people like sir keir starmer and others are saying you're just reigniting a culture war and why are we getting politics involved? but earlier we had rishi sunak meeting with people here, some female rowers, i should say, by the wa

when you worked at number 10, you know pretty you know, kemi , you know pretty you know, kemi, you know know all the runners and riders who might be the next tory leader if rishi sunak loses. as expected, next thursday. who do you think would be best to take on the job? >> oh gosh, that is a very difficult question to answer, i think there are you know, conservative party is a broad church, and some people would argue that that's part of the challenge that we have today, that there are people who are maybe more aligned with reform, and some folks who people might feel got lost on the way to joining a union and somehow have ended up in the conservative party. right, but i think if you look at the labour party today, they would argue that they're also a relatively broad church. and so it does come back to leadership. and so the question for me is who in the next five years can command the respect of their peers, regardless of where they might, locate themselves ideologically within the conservative family. and that will take someone who number one, is experienced, you know, somebody that

kemi versus who? a glimmer of hope and welcome back to headliners.rst look at wednesday's newspapers. josh, we have the telegraph now on the murky details of julian assange's release. will the truth take as long to come out as he did? >> indeed. and he's clean as well, which everyone will be happy to hear after his dirty protests. biden administration cut deal with assange ahead of potential labour labour takeover. so obviously the imminent new leaders of our country, and the idea being that because, labour might be more sympathetic to his cause, they'd be less likely , even if the be less likely, even if the court case that was going through the supreme courts found in favour of , that, of the in favour of, that, of the american government that they would still find a reason to not extradite him. so that's the idea. there's a bunch of other reasons as well, including the fact that australia now politically has sort of come out in favour of assange. and obviously he's a hugely divisive figure in terms of especially when you're a free speech advocate,

standing up for women like me , and he used the women like me, and he used the event to have a go at kemi badenoch . why is david clinging badenoch. why is david clinging on so hard to the wreckage of gender ideology? we'll stay tuned and i'll tell you. and a reform candidate who is caught in a sting by channel 4 saying naughty things, has been revealed to be an actor who boasts of doing a range of voices , including rough voice, voices, including rough voice, which it looks like he was using his smells fishier than a trawlerman's welly. this is your saturday night showdown . saturday night showdown. discussing all tonight's topics with me are my brilliant panel. joining me tonight are broadcaster and tv personality precious muir and the legendary comedian sajeela khurshid. there they are. but first, let's get your latest news headlines from sam francis . sam francis. >> very good evening to you. it's just after 8:00. the top story tonight from the newsroom . story tonight from the newsroom. leaders from major political parties are uniting in condemning reform uk over allegations of racis

talking about kemi badenoch there. so she hit back on twitter saying, i will not shut up.not be silenced by men who prioritise applause from stonewall, which is the controversial trans and lgbt charity, over the safety of women and girls. a rich, lefty, white male celebrity. so blinded by ideology he can't see the opfics by ideology he can't see the optics of attacking the only black woman in government by calling publicly for my existence to end. so. and she says this is what labour is going to be like when they get into power. if they get into power. and i mean, it is the labour are going to bring in, they're bringing through self—id, they're going to make like they're going to make life great for women like me. >> but david tennant is, he isn't part of the labour government, obviously, or he is like this chap who has just sort of goes on twitter and sort of goes, oh, just be nice . goes, oh, just be nice. >> he has he has a trans child. yeah, that's the issue. >> and so he is that binary. >> and so he is that binary. >> he is pretty cat. but what a coincidence that you h

however until we wake up and kemi badenoch does not exist anymore . i don't wish ill of anymore. her. i just wish her to shut up. >> well, i'm rejoined now by my panel >> well, i'm rejoined now by my panel. the historian and broadcaster tessa dunlop and the journalist and broadcaster ben& jerry's spence . welcome back. jerry's spence. welcome back. and it's quite interesting, actually . david tennant put his actually. david tennant put his finger on the point there, but didn't seem to recognise it. he said he was in favour of people having these rights as long as they don't hurt anyone else. now they don't hurt anyone else. now the argument is that some rights that might be given to trans people, for example, to elect to go into women's spaces , toilets, go into women's spaces, toilets, to, to go into women's sport , to to, to go into women's sport, to go into women's prisons. these do hurt someone else. they do affect the rights of other people, which is why there is a debate. and it's quite interesting to me that, you know, he had the words there, but he didn't quite understand

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it is kemi badenoch. and i was quite frustrated by this, actually, because the lgbt awards preaches diversity and inclusion , but not diversity of inclusion, but not diversity of thought. and there is a lot of diversity of thought in this country. and there are people with different opinions on the trans rights issue and the gender ideology issue. david has his opinion. i understand he has a non—binary child. kemi has her opinion about how it's important to protect single—sex spaces i do think that is important and i think we should be able to have these discussions without saying things like, i wish you would shut up and i wish you would to cease exist, it seems to be a lot of that going about these days mean francesca had his bit as well with diana. but i mean, they're all coming out with nonsense, yet supposedly purporting to be on the side of compassion. and it seems diversity, as long as you are one of these four groups, lgbt, nobody else . now, we saw the nobody else. now, we saw the leaders debate

and can you just kemi smear.et minister. >> she shouldn't be indulging me an example, though , dennis, of an example, though, dennis, of something that kemi has said thatis something that kemi has said that is actually transphobic . that is actually transphobic. >> i'm not going to go into any kind of charge sheet. i don't have any strong views on it. i can say a lot of things about other things, she said. and done taking part, basically taking her being transphobic. no, i said that there's a lot of right wing people who are using it to try and create tensions . wing people who are using it to try and create tensions. i'm guided by my children who are mothers, young mothers now, and they just see it in terms of tolerance. and all the politicians do is just exude either arrogant self—righteousness that i'm right, i'm right, i'm right, or intolerance and tolerance and tolerance. but i think kemi is just asking for tolerance for women and their rights. >> there she is. and i think what's quite interesting about this

. >> kemi badenoch bites back the equalities minister calls the actor david tennant a rich leftie white male celeb after he said i just wish her to shut up over her views on women's rights and the three lions. >> they're not exactly roaring, are they? england disappoint again last night in the euros, but we still managed to top the group after a stalemate with slovenia . slovenia. >> and gerald sparring partner alastair campbell is going to join us in the studio shortly. are you looking forward to that? >> yeah, i think it's alastair campbell's first time on gb news. he of course worked for tony blair very closely in new labour and then in number 10. so we'll have a lot to say on lots of things i'm quite sure. >> yes. you won't want to miss that. but before we get into anything else, let's get some news now with tatiana sanchez. >> andrew. ellie, thank you very much. the top stories this morning. the election betting row is deepening after a cabinet minister revealed he'd also gambled on the date of the vote. scotland secretary alister jack denies having broken any rules but admits to p

i'm a kemi fan, i like i've never voted tory, but i've. but i think tammy, kemi. tammy.ing them together. tom and kemi. yeah, get them married. but i think she . i think everything i've she. i think everything i've seen of her, she seems to be a very good communicator and she talks common sense. she's also a politician , and in this role you politician, and in this role you do get to hear about politicians and their behaviour , when and their behaviour, when they're not in the house. and she is a she seems to be a politician that people talk highly about. okay. on both sides. really? where do you hear that? you know, around the bazaars on the down low. right. what's, what's the daily mail going with nick? they've got. >> is nothing sacred? oh, my god, to the eco clowns . and of god, to the eco clowns. and of course, this is just stop oil spraying stonehenge henge with orange paint. i mean, if you could pick a more beloved monument, what are they going to spray next? poppies. you know, everyone loves stonehenge. it's just, you know, it's just one of these great monuments.

kemi badenoch was say somethin: ., �* ., welcome what kemi badenoch was say somethina ., �* ., ., ~ something are fighting it. i don't know who we are fighting it. i don't know who we are fighting specifically and in an election where most people's minds are on cost of living, the pound in their pocket, the state of public services i don't know why this is something we need to be focusing on, what i consider to the proudest achieve omit the conservatives being in office, same—sex marriage think for me was a real turning point, it cemented my place in the conservative party, because it showed where a party of tolerance, a much more modern party and a party that isn't actual frayed to do that might frustrate its own base but because it's the right thing to do, the rhetoric round notjust trans issues but lgbt issues more broadly issues but lgbt issues more broadly is so ticksic, there is so much heat in the debate it is dangerous. this in the debate it is dangerous. as part of this kemi bad knock sending o a message to the snp that gender recognition would be a reserve matter sow the westminster

now kemi badenoch is seeking to clarify the details of the equality act.n to people what precisely it is that kemi badenoch is proposing here? >> sure. so the equality act is a wrap up of over 100 different laws and pieces of precedent setting court cases, and it includes all the anti—discrimination laws. basically, in one big portmanteau. and there are nine protected characteristics of which one is sex and that roles in the sex discrimination act, which is nearly 50 years old. this year, and of course, at the time, what people meant by sex was sex, male and female. but in between that and the 2010 equality act, the gender recognition act was passed. and that gave some people the right to go through a medicalized, supervised process and get a birth cert at the end of it. that said, the falsified sex for some legal purposes, and it just isn't clear whether the equality act is one of those legal purposes or not. in other words, whether when you're doing anti—discrimination law and equality law, you have to count a man with a piece of paper from the governmen

moving on to the telegraph —ist keir starmer will reverse brexit says kemi badenoch.icture there on the right of the prince of wales birthday. nigel farage, west provoked pressure to attack ukraine — the daily mail. nigel farage is getting the front pages. the west provoked putin, a theory as reform leader suggests nato was to blame for the invasion. the ft weekend have a different story, rich foreigners turn away from the uk. and the i, a completely different story, nationaltrust and the i, a completely different story, national trust challenges uk leaders to save britain's rivers. that is just about that. but just to pick up on thatjk rowling story, digging into keir starmer. ji< digging into keir starmer. jif; rowling, as we know, feels very strongly about this. she is a very strongly about this. she is a very strong supporter of rosie duffield, the labour mp, sorry, the labour candidate, who believe she has not been supported by the labour party. jk been supported by the labour party. jk rowling might actually have a bit of impact? she jk rowling might actually ha

coming up, what's got kemi badenoch back up over at the bbc?or that matter, to decide which shows she should be able to go on because the presenter may have said something inappropriate before. we've had lots of scenarios of bbc presenters saying things that are inappropriate. >> we've got that. i'm also going to be showing you all of tomorrow's newspaper front pages , but what is going on here? >> you know , there's a rally on >> you know, there's a rally on thursday, 1 pm. you can come along to that one. >> the outcome of that, by the way, is absolutely hilarious. now we'll show it to you shortly. but first, yes, reform uk's new leader, nigel farage is running at the general election. what impact is this going to have at the tories? okay, well, tory candidate, now formerly mp daniel kawczynski is live and i can't wait to hear what he has to can welcome back to patrick christys. tonight all of tomorrow's newspaper front pages are coming in very, very soon. but. yeah. look. hey, the big story of the day is this, isn't it? nigel farage sent shoc

however, until we wake up and kemi badenoch does not exist anymore . i don't wish ill of anymore. i don't wish ill of her. i just wish her to shut up. >> okay, linda, can i ask you what is your reaction to that when you hear david, ten, said he just doesn't want anybody not to exist ? to exist? >> well, he caught himself very quickly afterwards, but then with the classic shut up woman. >> yeah , quite. exactly. and a >> yeah, quite. exactly. and a lot of people are interpreting this as well. let's face it, misogynistic. >> yeah, absolutely. >> yeah, absolutely. >> and you know , but the point >> and you know, but the point about it is as well is that, i mean, obviously, i know it was a sort of quip in a way, but it kind of wasn't as well. and it suggests to me that he hasn't done any basic reading on this subject. like, he doesn't appear to understand the concerns that women's rights campaigners and gay rights campaigners are raising about the dangers of gender identity, ideology. and look, the thing is, paul, if you're going to pontificate about this stuff, shouldn't you at least

about in the papers, kemi badenoch, penny mordaunt, suella _ kemi badenoch, penny mordaunt, suella bravermans you have mentioned that you _ of things. and with those names you have mentioned that you say are - have mentioned that you say are on the move, what would you say that each of those has done that means that someone like you know is that they want the top job? it is that someone like you know is that they want the top job?— they want the top “ob? it is not something h they want the top “ob? it is not something that _ they want the topjob? it is not something that they _ they want the topjob? it is not something that they do - they want the top job? it is not l something that they do directly, because — something that they do directly, because we are all in the firmament, it is the _ because we are all in the firmament, it is the way— because we are all in the firmament, it is the way people ask to speak on about— it is the way people ask to speak on about directly, and there are always people behind that, that are in people's— people behind that, that are in people's here and saying

and it's interesting we haven't seen much of kemi badenoch either.ide apart from the prime minister... and mel stride! and mel stride and mark harper, the transport secretary. now, if you are a wizened old hack or if you are a conservative who likes to chat about things privately, you might suggest that cabinet ministers just aren't willing to go out to stump for what some people believe has been a very disastrous campaign thus far. if you are less cynical than that, you might say, "well, the campaign has been designed very much around rishi sunak himself," and also lots of those erstwhile cabinet ministers are busy doing something called "trying to keep their own seats" rather than gallivanting around the country, being on the airwaves. also on the suella braverman point, do you remember an event a few days ago? i can't remember if it was a hustings or an interview — rishi sunak listed some previous home secretaries and he missed out suella braverman, even though she's had the job twice. was it a deliberate burn, do we think? i think it was. yes, i

she told me, so i mean, kemi i mean for a start , she's kemi i mean for a start, she's one of the few people that might keep her seat. so she has a she hasn't given up yet so she actually cares. she's saying reforms are wasted. vote there was a poll from the telegraph that only kemi and tom tugendhat are going to keep their seats out of the tory big beasts, which would be extraordinary. and so she's warning that starmer wants to go back in. and i think that is true. if you speak to people in the blob and the deep state type people, that's what they're all hoping for. and i believe that's what will happen over enough time. and she's defending brexit, saying it's a 10 to 20 year project. we've only just started . she uses an analogy. she says if you were cooking a meal or building a house, people wouldn't come in and say, hey, it's not finished yet. she's like, we've just started . like, we've just started. >> yeah, well, we're not going to have macaroni and cheese for another 20 years. >> yeah, that's right. >> yeah, that's right. >> we're going to starve to death. >> no, it'll be a be