kemi badenoch 42 votes. james cleverly— kemi badenoch 42 votes. james cleverly 37 votes.jenrick— cleverly 37 votes. and robert jenrick 41 _ cleverly 37 votes. and robert jenrick 41 votes. as a result of that— jenrick 41 votes. as a result of that ballot, james cleverly is eliminated from the contest and kemi _ is eliminated from the contest and kemi badenoch and robert jenrick— and kemi badenoch and robert jenrick now go forward to the ballot — jenrick now go forward to the ballot of— jenrick now go forward to the ballot of members. thank you very— ballot of members. thank you very much— ballot of members. thank you very much for your attendance. there _ very much for your attendance. there you — very much for your attendance. there you have it. the final two who are going through to the party members vote went that conservative party leadership race gets to its final stage are going to be robertjenrick and kemi badenoch. that is in some ways quite a surprise because in yesterday's vote james cleverly ca me yesterday's vote james cleverly came out top with 39. today i wil

kemi badenoch had a backwards. kemi badenoch had a degree of momentum.telling us on our today, telling us on our breakfast programme that it looked like you saw james cleverly had had got there into the final two and mps had to choose between robert jenrick and kemi badenoch. so even robert jenrick himself was effectively in a way conceding that one of the two places had gone to james cleverly and that has completely been overturned. it looks like possibly that james cleverly supporters may have got a bit cocky and felt that they can lend. voters lend support to either jenrick or badenoch to stop one of those two getting through, and managed to let both those through on on the by the by mistake killing off james cleverly. that is possible. it seems extraordinary. no one can quite understand it. for his part , understand it. for his part, james cleverly was at a book launch last night with robert with boris johnson. i photographed him with him. it looked like, you know, to an extent it was not definitely was not boris johnson saying, support this man. but

kemi badenoch 30. james follows. kemi badenoch 30. james cleverly 39.ugendhat 20. so as a result of that ballot, tom tugendhat is eliminated from the contest and the next ballot, the fourth ballot, will take place tomorrow between 130 and 3:00 pm. in this space between the top three candidates of kemi badenoch james cleverly and robert jenrick. the result will be announced tomorrow at 330. thank you very much for your attendance . just hold that over attendance. just hold that over for a second. >> can you ? >> can you? >> can you? >> and that's the historic banging of the desks there. to those in attendance , just to those in attendance, just to quickly go over those votes. there was a gasp in the studio from heather wheeler. dramatic swing towards james cleverly, now 39 votes as the winner . now 39 votes as the winner. second place robert jenrick and third place kemi badenoch and in fourth place. now eliminated. tom tugendhat, bob blackman there, the chairman of the party making the announcement, chris hope. we predicted that that would maybe the peck

kemi badenoch was the business _ robert jenrick.s sector - robert jenrick. kemi badenoch was the business sector in - robert jenrick. kemi badenoch was the business sector in the | was the business sector in the last government and is seen as a pretty big thinker, pitching herself on the idea of going back to first principles and looking at what it means to be a conservative, so she has a reputation for being a bit, not shying away from a fight, and one of her supporters acknowledged that she was great but he felt she could start a fight on an empty room. she said she's not going after the anti—woke agenda but she says she is standing up for what she believes and she does not shy away from confrontation, so to some people that is appealing but others worry it will land them in the sort of issues they have seen in the past where we have seen in the past where we have seen in the past where we have seen the infighting and having to clarify things and that sort of confusion. robert jenrick started off as the front runner and he has had

what is it about kemi badenoch that you like?nservatives like myself, faced with the choice - of robertjenrick, who i think is a steady candidate, - and kemi badenoch, who has quite a lot of potential, - whether upwards or downwards, we know not at this time, - would prefer to go for the latter. well, i'm really pleased because i'm just disappointed i'm not wearing my kemi badge. and james wanted james cleverly to make the last two. i'm very disappointed to see that he didn't get through. i think he would have been the unity candidate that could have really brought the party together, but also, you know, delivered for people across the uk. back in westminster today's victors offer their reaction. my message is one of change, to change our party not with platitudes, but with policies that will address the big challenges facing our country, on the nhs, on the economy and immigration. we need to unite behind a real conservatism that means something to the country. throwing out policy without rooting it in values doesn't work. and th

what is it about kemi badenoch that you like?like myself, faced with the choice of robertjenrick, who i think is a steady candidate, and kemi badenoch, who has quite a lot of potential, whether upwards or downwards, we know not at this time, would prefer to go for the latter. well, i'm really pleased because i was i'm just disappointed i'm not wearing my kemi badge. and james wanted james cleverly to make the last two. i'm very disappointed to see that he didn't get through. i think he would have been the unity candidate that could have really brought the party together, but also, you know, delivered for people across the uk. back in westminster today's victors offer their reaction. my message is one of change, to change our party not with platitudes, but with policies that will address the big challenges facing our country, on the nhs, on the economy and immigration. we need to unite behind a real conservatism that means something to the country. throwing out policy without rooting it in values doesn't work. and that's what we s

why shouldn't it be kemi badenoch _ mission. why shouldn't it be kemi badenoch in _ mission.n charge of the tory party?— kemi badenoch in charge of the tory party? there are a number of aood tory party? there are a number of good candidates _ tory party? there are a number of good candidates and - tory party? there are a number of good candidates and i - tory party? there are a number of good candidates and i look i of good candidates and i look forward to going up against kemi badenoch. what i offer in the leadership election is policies and not platitudes. throughout the campaign i set out a clear vision for the party, how we can restore the party, how we can restore the party and deliver for the british people again. it's about serious policies to meet serious challenges the country faces across all the issues, not going down rabbit holes but focusing on the things the public care about the most, the economy, the nhs and our borders. economy, the nhs and our borders— borders. that was robert jenrick- _ borders. that was robert jenrick. we _ borders. that was robert jenrick

kemi badenoch?, the great eurosceptic who, when she had ministerial responsibility, dropped the legislation that would have taken out of our law 4000 pieces of eu legislation and kemi badenoch . yes, the one that now badenoch. yes, the one that now wants to control our borders and control immigration. who was the one that pushed the hardest for foreign students coming into britain, bringing their mum with them as dependants with inconsistency like that, there's very little to worry about . very little to worry about. >> well, nigel farage, i'll leave you to go back to the commons terrace to drink, to see what's going on there and get some gossip. but thanks for joining us on your show, farage tonight. and thank you, joe phillips, and thank you also, dave, andrew jenkin up next, m15 director general ken mccallum has warned that iran and russia are recruiting uk criminals to carry out their dirty work for them in this country. an with me next to discuss this now yesterday, m15 director general ken mcc

kemi badenoch received 42 votes. robert jenrick picked up 41 and james cleverly received 37, meaning he has now been eliminated from the race. in a tweet, cleverly has thanked his colleagues , party members and colleagues, party members and the public for their support. gb news political editor christopher hope spoke to robert jenrick earlier on. >> i have a very specific plan as to how we do that, whether it's improving the nhs, getting growth, going again in our economy or yes, securing our borders. i do not believe in platitudes. i want us to have a serious plan now as to how we move forward and get this party back into gear for the good of our country. >> well, jenrick's rival kemi badenoch had this to say a short while later . while later. >> it doesn't matter. people are heanng >> it doesn't matter. people are hearing what i'm saying, and they think my approach is right, that you start with principles first and then policy. we need to unite behind a real conservatism. that means something to the country. >> and

how much do you worry that sometimes when kemi badenoch talks, she clocks things up? candidates we have had for— up? i think all of the candidates we have had for this _ up? i think all of the candidates we have had for this contest _ up? i think all of the candidates we have had for this contest are - up? i think all of the candidates we l have had for this contest are people with very worthwhile experience to bring to the job and clearly kemi, having done several big government jobs and really having achieved a great deal, for instance the deals she did as secretary of state on trade, so she has a huge amount of experience... she trade, so she has a huge amount of experience- - -— experience... she doesn't make mistakes. _ experience... she doesn't make mistakes. you — experience... she doesn't make mistakes, you would _ experience... she doesn't make i mistakes, you would acknowledge that? i mistakes, you would acknowledge that? ., , mistakes, you would acknowledge that? ., ., ., that? i would say one of her qualities... _ that? i would say one of her qualities...

kemi badenoch 42 votes. james cleverty— kemi badenoch 42 votes. james cleverly 37 votes.

>> kemi badenoch, 42 votes.otes. so, as a result of that, that ballot, jame5 cleverly i5 a result of that, that ballot, jame5 cleverly is eliminated from the contest and kemi badenoch and robert jenrick now go forward to the ballot of members . member5. >> i mean, i don't know if you clocked it, but the guy on the right couldn't even do his suit up properly there. but jame5 cleverly i5 up properly there. but jame5 cleverly is out. kemi badenoch and robert jenrick, they're going head to head before a winner is announced on the 2nd of november. lee, who do you fear m05t? >> i don't fear any, to be honest with you , patrick. honest with you, patrick. i mean, it's going to be i mean, i know rob very, very well . cla55 know rob very, very well. cla55 him as a friend. he'5 know rob very, very well. cla55 him as a friend. he's a good quy- him as a friend. he's a good guy.soi5 him as a friend. he's a good guy. s0 is kemi. rob'5 going to campaign quite clearly on leaving the echr. and kev'5 not come out and actually admi

what is it about kemi badenoch that you like?yself itself. faced with the choice of robertjenrick, who i think is a steady candidate, and kemi badenoch, who has quite a lot of potential, whether upwards or downwards, we know not at this time, would prefer to go for the latter. well, i'm really pleased because i was i'm just disappointed i'm not wearing my kemi badge. and james wanted james cleverly to make the last two. i'm very disappointed to see that he didn't get through. i think he would have been the unity candidate that could have really brought the party together, but also, you know, delivered for people across the uk. back in westminster today's victors offer their reaction. my message is one of change, to change our party not with platitudes, but with policies that will address the big challenges facing our country, on the nhs, on the economy and immigration. we need to unite behind a real conservatism that means something to the country. throwing out policy without rooting it in values doesn't work. and that's what we

i think, kemi badenoch.hassle, but nor do other spokesmen or mp5 have been asked about maternity pay when ? why is about maternity pay when? why is that even an issue when it shouldn't be? after that interview on the radio on on sunday. so i think she's had a questionable one. tom tugendhat has faded away. i think he was weaker today for some reason, although he's good in front of the in the q&a with members and jenrick held his own. so that's the order i would if i was ranking them at the end of four days, i would say james cleverly robert jenrick, kemi badenoch, tom tugendhat in that order. >> really interesting stuff. chris, thank you so much for talking us through that. from your expert perspective in the hall and of course, having spoken to all four of them at length over the last couple of days. back to you, emily. >> yes, he's probably spoken to them more than he has his own family at this stage. and christopher hope , very christopher hope, very interesting to get that inside perspective though. this

a few moments ago kemi badenoch gave her rude insult —— reaction. ghted _ -- reaction. absolutely delighted to _ -- reaction. absolutely delighted to have i -- reaction. absolutely| delighted to have talked -- reaction. absolutely i delighted to have talked at this stage of the contest and i want — this stage of the contest and i want to— this stage of the contest and i want to thank all of the people who supported me especially those — who supported me especially those who are out campaigning and all— those who are out campaigning and all of— those who are out campaigning and all of my volunteers, it shows _ and all of my volunteers, it shows people have a lot of faith — shows people have a lot of faith in _ shows people have a lot of faith in my approach which is about— faith in my approach which is about renewal and i think that is why— about renewal and i think that is why i— about renewal and i think that is why i am winning at the moment _ is why i am winning at the moment-— is why i am winning at the moment. .,, . a moment. robert jenrick said

kemi badenoch or james or most? kemi badenoch orjames or robert jenrick?andidates from the right of the party. >> well, firstly, can i apologise to the audience because i generally get my big predictions right? well, i got one wrong yesterday , i thought one wrong yesterday, i thought cleverly, i know i got it wrong. hands up, you know, i mean, i thought cleverly would sail through now. now it's very interesting that last night cleverly was on the terrace here in the palace of westminster, having a drink, strutting around , having a drink, strutting around, looking very confident, talking to everybody. went to boris's book launch and whilst he was almost on a victory parade, people at robert jenrick were on the phones talking to as many members of parliament as they possibly could. that's one factor that i think played. the second factor that played was the chagos islands, because this story is far from over. and how funny before the david lammy chagos islands debate, the other funny before the david lammy chagwhichinds debate, the other funny before the d

kemi badenoch and robertjenrick are the final two.does it tell us about the future direction of the conservative party? good evening. welcome to newsnight. in florida, time has run out for more than 5.5 million people who were ordered to leave their homes as hurricane milton closes in. as we go on air, the storm surges have already begun. these are the live pictures right now from fort myers, which is just south of tampa. the hurricane due to hit the tampa bay area in the next six or seven hours. this is the centre of fort myers. a complete ghost town, as you can see. it's expected to be the worst storm in this part of the world in living memory, with vicious winds of up to 130mph and surges in sea levels of up to four metres, or up to 15 feet, high. and breaking tonight, just hours away from hurricane milton, the cat 5 storm of the century. you're going to ride the storm out in this boat right here? yeah. why? i because i have nowhere else to go. showing gma its hurricane simulator and what it can do to a home when it's dialled up to

kemi badenoch, welcome to political thinking. thank you, nick. it is four years since we talked and we focus then a lot on your personal story. and i asked you at the end of that interview if you thought you would ever see a black prime minister in your lifetime. and you said to me, why not? have you now concluded, there will be one and it will be you? well, i have concluded there could be one and it could be me, but that depends if the conservative party members decide that i am their person. but if they do so, they won't be doing it on the basis of the colour of my skin. they'll be doing it because of the values and principles which we share. yeah, and a lot of what i want to do in this interview is talk about those values and principles. but for people who don't know your story, let's just begin with that. you told me back then that you were. then that you were, and it's an interesting phrase, british by fate. what did you mean? so i say british by fate, in the sense that we didn't know that i was even a british citizen until i was about i was

in that choice, why pick kemi badenoch over robertjenrick?d please the right. she is cutting through the country i should please the right. she is| cutting through the country and the membership, sol cutting through the country and the membership, so i see it as myioh — the membership, so i see it as myioh as— the membership, so i see it as myjob as an mp to make sure that— myjob as an mp to make sure that members get the choice that members get the choice that they are looking for and we can— that they are looking for and we can go to the country with kemi — we can go to the country with kemi as— we can go to the country with kemi as a _ we can go to the country with kemi as a dynamic interesting and candidates that can get our party— and candidates that can get our party attention. we and candidates that can get our party attention-— party attention. we are running out of time _ party attention. we are running out of time so _ party attention. we are running out of time so i _ party attention. we are running out of time so i will _ party at

the last— secretary as kemi badenoch has been.ter and leadership qualities but also _ character and leadership qualities but also getting the pitch rate to the party— but also getting the pitch rate to the party and the country. do you think ou the party and the country. do you think you will _ the party and the country. do you think you will make _ the party and the country. do you think you will make it _ the party and the country. do you think you will make it through - the party and the country. do you think you will make it through to | think you will make it through to the last two mac?— think you will make it through to the last two mac? yes. i think he stands every _ the last two mac? yes. i think he stands every chance. _ the last two mac? yes. i think he stands every chance. those - the last two mac? yes. i think he| stands every chance. those votes will happen _ stands every chance. those votes will happen middle _ stands every chance. those votes will happen middle of— stands every chance. those votes will happen middl

kemi badenoch _ softly thing a bit more. yes. kemi badenoch there - softly thing a bit more. yes.is scheduled to close on the 31st of october with the announcement on saturday. archaeologists have discovered a huge ancient city hidden underground in mexico which may give a better understand of the maya civilisation. known for their distinctive temples and cities which stood for centuries but due to factors such as war and disease, the mayans faded into obscurity around 300 years ago. however, thanks to modern technologies, including radar, archaeologists are able to uncover these civilisations in their native north and central american countries, as georgina rannard reports. deep in the central american jungle, the trees are hiding treasures. radar fired from a plane peers through the canopy to search for ruins. this is in guatemala, but archaeologists have now discovered another huge city — this time in mexico. they're calling it valeriana. now, we don't have any pictures of valeriana — that's because no—one's been there for hundreds of years — so we thought we'd show you what it

kemi badenoch received 42 votes. robert jenrick picked up 41 and james cleverly received 37, meaning he has now been eliminated from the race. in a tweet, cleverly has thanked his colleagues , party members and colleagues, party members and the public for their support. gb news political editor christopher hope , spoke to christopher hope, spoke to robert jenrick earlier on. >> very specific plan as to how we do that, whether it's improving the nhs, getting growth, going again in our economy or yes, securing our borders. i don't believe in platitudes . i want us to have platitudes. i want us to have a serious plan now as to how we move forward and get this party back into gear for the good of our country. >> well, jenrick's rival kemi badenoch had this to say a short while later. >> it doesn't matter. people are heanng >> it doesn't matter. people are hearing what i'm saying, and they think my approach is right, that you start with principles first and then policy. we need to unite behind a real conservatism. that me

kemi badenoch did plot.rting kemi badenoch today, who are they? they're the same people who were the plotters against boris johnson and who supported rishi sunak. i think that if you can't serve a prime minister loyally when you're in his cabinet or in his government, then you don't automatically have the right to be elected as a prime minister in the future. loyalty is very important. it's the number one quality that any candidate should have. as far as i'm concerned. >> nadine dorries, let's get your reaction to what she had to say there from our political correspondent. there katherine forster. catherine >> yes. both the front runners , >> yes. both the front runners, robert jenrick and kemi badenoch, managing to get themselves into a bit of hot water over the last couple of days. water over the last couple of days . i'll come specifically to days. i'll come specifically to those shortly, but nadine dorries comments, i think really very interesting indeed, saying any of the men that they'd all been loyal

it would be that kemi badenoch and robertjenrick had difficult moments at the conference.e impression that she was questioning the level of maternity pay, and robert jenrick when he said that special forces are killing rather than capturing on the ground as a result of human rights laws. so who knows, maybe it will be tom tugendhat, james cleverly and one of kemi badenoch or robertjenrick. but who knows? we will see. tory mps are always described as the most duplicitous electorate in the world. in other words, they all lie to each other about who they're going to back and then just look at the numbers. so thank you very much for listening to this episode. join adam next week. goodbye. newscast. newscast from the bbc. hello there. good evening. a very messy and unsettled picture weather—wise as we head through the next few days. but it was a pretty start earlier on this morning. lots of red skies as captured by our weather watchers. and of course, the heaviest downpours today were out towards the west, some of the showers pushing further eastwards at times. not as much suns

kemi badenoch received 42 votes. robert jenrick picked up 41 and james cleverly received 37, meaning he has now been eliminated from the race. in a tweet, cleverly has thanked his colleagues party members and the pubuc colleagues party members and the public for the support he received during the campaign. gb news political editor christopher hope spoke to robert jenrick earlier on. >> very specific plan as to how we do that, whether it's improving the nhs, getting growth, going again in our economy or yes , securing our economy or yes, securing our borders. i don't believe in platitudes. i want us to have a serious plan now as to how we move forward and get this party back into gear for the good of our country. >> well, jenrick's rival kemi badenoch had this to say a short while later. >> it doesn't matter. people are heanng >> it doesn't matter. people are hearing what i'm saying and they think my approach is right, that you start with principles first and then policy. we need to unite behind a real conservatism th

gite kemi badenoch picked up another due going from 28 to 30.— going from 28 to 30.e of the sorts of things _ going from 28 to 30. give me a sense of the sorts of things you _ going from 28 to 30. give me a sense of the sorts of things you are - of the sorts of things you are hearing. they haven't got long before the next round of voting about where those votes might actually go for the d job tugendhat votes, which of the three camps they may go to. votes, which of the three camps they ma no to. , . ., votes, which of the three camps they ma aoto. , . ., ., may go to. there will be a lot of frantic phone — may go to. there will be a lot of frantic phone calls _ may go to. there will be a lot of frantic phone calls of— may go to. there will be a lot of frantic phone calls of trying - may go to. there will be a lot of frantic phone calls of trying to i may go to. there will be a lot of. frantic phone calls of trying to woo tom tugendhat and his 19 overnight. it would seem that some of those are likely to peel last to james cleverley he is now the last centrist candidat

he is now in a real tussle with kemi badenoch to get into those final two, with kemi badenoch to getht. she is the one with star quality who would shake up the party and she is the favourite of the party members. so between now and three o'clock tomorrow, those 20 mps who were supporting tom tugendhat, their votes are up for grabs. their phones are not going _ votes are up for grabs. their phones are not going to _ votes are up for grabs. their phones are not going to stop _ votes are up for grabs. their phones are not going to stop ringing. - are not going to stop ringing. vicki, thank you. and victoria derbyshire will have more on the conservative leadership contest on newsnight on bbc two shortly. hi, sophie. yes, our expert panel willanswer hi, sophie. yes, our expert panel will answer the question — who looks most like a leader in waiting? and here at the bbc, we are of course monitoring hurricane milton. president biden warns that it could be the worst to hit fried in a century. how much damage could it cause? newsnight on bbc two, bbc news and iplayer in about four minutes. .

please, kemi badenoch. >> because it's been a slim pickings this week . i do agree with her on some of the culture comment. i think she actually did have a good sort of media hit with that bbc interview by saying not all cultures are valid, just because i thought the optics of that really worked in their favour. i think it sparked a very necessary conversation about actually, you know, the values that different cultures have and whether it's completely whether it's compatible with british culture. >> all right . >> all right. >> all right. >> stephen, well, i'm going from pierre poilievre, who is the leader of the conservative party in canada, in a position now that he is trouncing trudeau all across canada in a position where people believe that he is the best conservative leader across the world. and in this week of the conservative party, we're messing around trying to choose their leader. they should be looking over to canada and seeing how he has increased the votes from 18 to 26 year olds to 40%. >> yeah, getting the young people on board is crucial

it would be that kemi badenoch and robert jenrick had difficult moments at the conference.ession that she was questioning the level of maternity pay, and robert jenrick when he said that special forces are killing rather than capturing on the ground as a result of human rights laws. so who knows, maybe it will be tom tugendhat, james cleverly and one of kemi badenoch or robertjenrick. but who knows? we will see. tory mps are always described as the most duplicitous electorate in the world. in other words, they all lie to each other about who they're going to back and then just look at the numbers. so thank you very much for listening to this episode. join adam next week. goodbye. newscast. newscast from the bbc. hello there. good afternoon. some rather unsettled conditions, weather—wise, for the next few days. it's a very messy picture with some showers, longer spells of rain, but also some brightness and some sunshine. although where we saw the best of the blue skies yesterday, it's now turned rather cloudy. and there will be some more showers through the rest of the day,

i imagine it's the same for kemi badenoch.en by one of the one of the candidates ringing him quite early on the morning, but he did not take the call. so behind the scenes, there are all sorts of frantic efforts being made to get those critical numbers, because i expect it will be very, very tight indeed. >> i love that anecdote. catherine. the idea that conservative mps don't need alarm clocks anymore because the candidates are just ringing them so constantly . can i have your so constantly. can i have your vote? can i have your vote? goodness me. less than an hour to go. we'll be back. of course. back in westminster with you and the rest of the team. when those results are declared, it's rather charming how enthused you are about these types of things. >> it's lovely. it keeps it exciting, don't you think? >> at home you've got you've got to have sort of hobbies, don't you? >> you've got to have sort of hobbies. yes. >> some people like to, you know, follow the football. others like to follow the conservative party leadershi

robert jenrick , kemi badenoch, robert jenrick, kemi badenoch, james cleverly and tom tugendhat. wednesday, the final two will be selected, leaving conservative members to make the ultimate choice. this morning we were joined by shadow minister for education damian hinds and he told us he thinks there's a field of standout candidates. >> we've not made a declaration. i think we've got four really strong candidates. obviously we've got we've got around today, another round tomorrow and then there will be the and then there'll be the members round. i took a decision at the start of the contest to not make a declaration until we got to that final, until we got to that final stage. but i think it's been a very well contested election. obviously, the party conference last week, that was a really important opportunity for people to set out their stall and i think both party members and i think both party members and of course the wider public got a chance to see all four of them in action. >> christian brueckner, a suspect in the disappearance of madeleine mccann, has been acquitted to

in the case of kemi badenoch.but i think until they are just honest and frank and say we actually just need reform back, i don't think they're going to be able to rebuild that. >> and he is a friendly word of advice to the tories. would you tell us to take reform seriously, or do you think kemi badenoch is right? >> i think you know, looking at their kind of shenaniganry at their kind of shenaniganry at the moment with tommy robinson and the kind of splits on the very right of reform and the way that the grassroots appear to be divided to the parliamentary leadership, i wouldn't particularly take them seriously as a as an actual organisation. you know, they've got five mps. they have no real responsibility. they can say whatever they want, but they're never going to see the government benches . so i think government benches. so i think they're a bit of a bit of a fringe kind of excitement at the moment. obviously take into account the voters that they they took at the last election, but i wouldn't take them seriou

. >> tonight concert conservative leadership hopefuls robert jenrick and kemi badenoch go head to head in a gb news special. but to either have what it takes to lead the embattled tories, scottish business leaders issue a new plea to labour not to increase alcohol duty for fears of crippling the industry. education secretary bridget phillipson joins us this morning as she launches a new funding programme as part of ambitious plans to open 3000 new nurseries. >> the king and queen head down under in their most significant overseas tour since his cancer diagnosis. >> nearly 1 million brits living with dementia could soon be aided by an ai robot specialising in alzheimer's care. >> new government plans are going to offer unemployed brits discounted driving lessons, so we're debating this morning whether the jobless should get freebies. >> later this morning, britain's most decorated paralympian, dame sarah storey , divulges the sarah storey, divulges the secrets of her success and also in sport, the country is coming to terms with a german becoming the england manager. so ben ainslie's br

then robert jenrick and then kemi badenoch. around 20 minutes from each of them.the separate audiences of conservative mps as opposed to the membership he will make the final decision?— final decision? they are quite different audiences _ final decision? they are quite different audiences and i final decision? they are quite different audiences and to i different audiences and to distil this down, the general feeling is that the mps is a very narrow electorate, 120 older people but they are focused mostly on what will win them there are seats at the next general election, who will retain those seats? it is a political survival instinct. the party membership, tens of thousands, nobody knows exactly how many, but that tends to be much more disconnected from that issue, much more about what kind of vision of conservative party do they want? do they want an immigration focused conservative party that will talk about immigration, integration that robertjenrick is talking about? do they want tobin tokac —— tom tugendhat or james cleverly with wider appeal, the party nee

this place really highlights the challenge facing kemi badenoch or robertjenrick.e coast, the seat right next door is now held by labour, in part because voters switched to reform uk. so how does the new leader appeal to voters that turned away from them to parties with very different political perspectives? jenny and barry are both conservative councillors who've lived here for decades and know the complexities of this county. i think we have to face up to the fact that we lost a huge amount of our voters to reform, and we need to get those voters back. we need to show them that we will do what they want us to do. how do you manage that, then, in a place like this, where the liberal democrats ended up winning the seat? well, the liberal democrats didn't win the seat. we gave it to them. we need to get back to basics — what the conservatives' values are — and that is the most important thing, whether it's a little bit to the right, a little bit to the left, straight down the middle, doesn't matter. we've got to incorporate all of that. kemi badenoch and robertjenri

you are a kemi badenoch fan.er gaffe yesterday on maternity pay because she did gaffe. >> no, i'm absolutely a kemi badenoch fan. i think she has that sort of undefined quality. the x factor star quality, political charisma, which i think we need in our new leader to help us take the fight to labour when we have a new leader in place. i think kemi badenoch has that. besides, of course , has that. besides, of course, authentic conservative views. i think she has the potential to follow in margaret thatcher's footsteps and those are the reasons why i am backing her. >> always dangerous to compare these women leaders to margaret thatcher. we had theresa may and liz truss. you wouldn't call either of them a maggie thatcher figure, would you? >> no, i wouldn't, but i think kemi is different. as i said a second ago, she has that kind of star quality that i think we need to take the fight to laboun need to take the fight to labour, and they've done such a bad job in government in the last 80 or so days. it is more impor

and kemi badenoch third on 30. tom tugendhat has now

there seems to be a real battle on for second place between robertjenrick and kemi badenoch. similar pitches in some way. robert jenrick has lost some ground in the last weeks and i think he is probablyjittery at the last weeks and i think he is probably jittery at this stage, and i think nobody could have foreseen that a week or so ago. kemi badenoch has some passion supporters among mps but also some pretty strong critics, so i think it will be interesting to see the final result. i'm not going to protect it. there is going to be three more intense hours of arm twisting and controlling and promises have been made to tory mps. there might be tactical voting, all sorts of shenanigans, as some mps try to work out who they want to be the leader of the party and who, which of the two they want to see put membership, and that is going to be fascinating what happens when we get the result at 3:30pm. i think the real fight is for the second place spot and, at the moment, the winner is on a knife edge. the last two then _ winner is on a knife edge. the last two then get _ winner is

kemi badenoch previously closed.emi badenoch says that her bid for the conservative leadership is a grassroots campaign, taking aim at her rival, robert jenrick. more media focused approach in recent weeks as the two contenders compete to replace rishi sunak , the shadow housing rishi sunak, the shadow housing secretary says the tories need to regain voters that were lost to regain voters that were lost to reform and the liberal democrats. meanwhile, robert jenrick has outlined his vision for a smaller state and lower taxes , arguing that returning taxes, arguing that returning the spend on benefits to pre—pandemic levels could help a tax cut . well, from 7 pm. tax cut. well, from 7 pm. tonight, they will be making their pitches to tory members in a special programme moderated by gb news political editor christopher hope. you can, of course, catch all the action live here on gb news seven till 9:00 tonight in decision time. the race to lead breaking line to bring you from the westminster magistrates court this hour.

um, and then kemi badenoch is one of those people who actually my first memories of her are hearing other, ah, there's this interesting new mp, you might not have heard of her yet, but she is going to be one to watch. she's somebody who's going to sort of, you know, soar away. um, so yeah, that's i think more and more what i remember of her is actually other people kind of pre—mentioning her. well, it's interesting you say that because the little bit of archive of me we played in the kemi badenoch programme is me interviewing her for the daily politics at tory party conference in 2009, and she was put forward by conservative central office as the new face of the... she introduced theresa may on the platform as well a few years later, i believe. oh, yeah. no—one really has a meteoric rise, do they? it can look a bit meteoric, and it may be faster relatively than some people in their political careers. but actually there's always a sort of long, long preview period. people can spend quite a lot of time being tipped for greatness, just as you were, adam. and look at you now presenting newsni

back in the uk, tory leadership contender kemi badenoch has now said that we should find a way to make life easier for those who are starting families. miss badenoch was speaking at an event with the conservative women's organisation and said people are scared to have families. this comes fresh off the back of comments she made over the level of maternity pay being excessive. miss badenoch has since gone back on this, saying her comment was part of a longer discussion about maternity pay is quite important and this was actually a long discussion. >> we were having about the role of the state in deciding what businesses should do, but we need to decide who's going to be leader of the party. not the left, not the guardian, not the bbc, just conservatives. i was interrupted as i was answering a different question. the point i'm making is that if we lighten the burden on business, they will be able to help solve these problems rather than what kate was asking me should the government increase it? should the government do this or that? there is too much government already. things aren't get

kemi badenoch was in tatters. kemi badenoch was very smart.nd harris on the gb news tory leadership debate last night, take a listen to what she said donald trump or kamala harris. >> i like both of them equally. yes , there you go. yes, there you go. >> that's what leadership looks like . that is what putting like. that is what putting britain first looks like as well . britain first looks like as well. is this the most embarrassing government in history? it's certainly the most tribal, partisan and petty , with this partisan and petty, with this insanely self—destructive move to send help to kamala harris, which technically interferes in american democracy. wait till the donald hears about this. if trump wakes up to victory on november the 5th, keir starmer will wake up to a political nightmare. zoe, this is volunteers of the labour party , volunteers of the labour party, okay? they took these trips in a personal capacity, funded themselves. they're not organised or funded by the party. the accommodation is being arranged by volunteers campa

two of the candidates for leader — kemi badenoch and tom tugendhat — were questioned in front of tory it�*s james cleverley�*s turn. and now robertjenrick is finishing his time in the hot seat. let�*s speak to our political correspondent damian grammaticas, who is in birmingham. what did you pick out? what is interesting. — what did you pick out? what is interesting, you _ what did you pick out? what is interesting, you heard - what did you pick out? what is interesting, you heard two - interesting, you heard two candidates, robertjenrick and james cleverly, and amongst james cleverly, and amongst james cleverly�*s comments, a load of barbed comments, subtly beneath the surface ticking away at the other candidate, and that is because robert jenrick is seen as the front runner. he was a morejunior minister in the last conservative government, and james cleverly occupied more senior positions as foreign secretary and home secretary. robertjenrick resigned over theissue robertjenrick resigned over the issue of immigration controls and he had been seen as a more centrist mp but then shift

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robert jenrick, kemi badenoch.30, won't we? but certainly i think that rishi sunak should take a bit of pleasure from this goodness. it was hard being prime minister for him. but look at the poll ratings now. sir keir starmer came in and his popularity ratings have fallen through the floor, frankly. and yesterday there was a poll that put labour only 1% in front of the conservatives. >> what happened to the honeymoon ? catherine turned into honeymoon? catherine turned into a nightmare . a nightmare. >> yeah, there wasn't much honeymoon, was there? i think, i suppose very briefly, maybe. and the handling of the riots. but it went downhill pretty quickly after that, didn't it? because they didn't seem to get a grip on the donor scandals. they've just gone on and on and on. this grid of announcements that they should sort of control what we're all talking about by making lots of announcements, getting us talking about things has felt to be really, really very absent. and we've got the budget looming over all of us. on

who is kemi badenoch?chris hope, picked up on last night. very , picked up on last night. very, very quickly and that is that james cleverly would rather face robert jenrick in the final two before members rather than kemi badenoch, who has, i think, a lighter touch with the conservative party members. they prefer her and therefore in this final round we could see some of his supporters actually going into going to vote for robert jenrick because they would much prefer that he faces off against robert jenrick than kemi badenoch, because we saw how popular she was up in birmingham with the party members. okay, her, her she made some gaffes in the wider media. >> you described it as a terrible conference. >> i think it was a terrible conference in terms of the british, in terms of the british voters and what they saw about maternity pay, but but at the same time, you have to be honest with yourself and recognise that conservative party members do like her. and i think there's always that. and keir starmer, y

last up today, the favourite for many here, kemi badenoch.o sceptic. some people say i like a fight. i can't imagine where they got that idea. laughter. but it's not true. i do not like to fight, but i'm not afraid to fight. i don't fight for the sake of fighting, but i do fight for you. both frontrunners, kemi badenoch and robertjenrick, have had difficult days at this conference, and... it felt today like james cleverly made the most of his moment. the question is whether that will make any difference. the next round of voting is next week. the winner will be announced next month. chris mason, bbc news, in birmingham. lets speak to lucy fisher. lovely to see you. thank you for coming on. who do you think is up and down? that for coming on. who do you think is up and down?— is up and down? that was definitely _ is up and down? that was definitely my _ is up and down? that was definitely my take, - is up and down? that was definitely my take, not i is up and down? that was i definitely my take, not least from the warm applause james cleverly

mps are choosing between kemi badenoch, james cleverly, robertjenrick and tom tugendhat.get around lunch time is a vote and a little bit after that, one and a half hours, a couple of hours, early mid afternoon, we will get that result, which of the four candidates is out. and crucially what that will mean is where their votes then go. we know that the last candidate to be knocked out had 16 votes, this is only an electorate of around 121 conservative mps, that is what the conservative party has been reduced to after its devastating losses in the last election, so a small number of votes moving can really shift this. and essentially in the four who are there, you have two on the right side of the party in robertjenrick and kemi badenoch, they topped the poll, got first and second in ranking of votes in the last round, and then two slightly more in the centre, james cleverly and tom tugendhat. the feeling is tom tugendhat might be out this time but we will learn that this afternoon. really what you see here is a competition for what does the conservative party wants, what d