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republicans i think a kemp endorsement or a kemp co-sign could indicate that a candidate is of thatd help them move beyond trump. however, we know that, as of right now, that is not a majority of the republican party. so for those republicans who are still trump republicans, who are still pretty maga, so far kemp has been perceived as someone who has fallen out with president trump, but generally speaking, does not directly challenge president trump. he has not necessarily traded barbs with president trump. now, he did rebuke him more recently, but that was considered a departure from kemp. again, kemp said even if trump becomes the nominee, he will support him. he will vote for him. so there is risks there if kemp has a clean break by endorsing someone else. marjorie taylor greene, for example, made that very clear last week. so, number one, i don't know if kemp's going to choose to do that. if he does, that could really turn off the maga base of the republican party, which would then be counterproductive for anyone who received kemp's endorsement. >> cuts both ways. tia mitchell,

and kemp won his primary easily.know, republicans in georgia will go with marjorie taylor greene. now, i think that's rosy. marjorie taylor greene is not a david purdue. david pure due had his own kind of things that were working against him behind brian kemp. the stock trading during the coronavirus pandemic among them. his personal wealth makes him kind of be elite that a lot of republicans say they don't want to see in office. marjorie taylor greene's story is just much different. so, it would definitely be a primary for the ages. you know, and a lot will depend on where the republican party goes from here. we've got three years. if it's still a very trumpy republican party, you know, that could mean a big primary contest for governor kemp. >> it will be very interesting. we do know who is very likely to be the republican presidential nominee, it won't be donald trump. no surprises there. >>> numbers do not lie. some americans may not be feeling it. compared to the rest of the world, the u.s. is going gang busters

kemp -- there's a voter in georgia.s about joe biden, really doesn't like the democratic party, really doesn't like donald trump and kemp checks every box for them because kemp isn't a democrat. he's a conservative, but he also vouched for the 2020 election in georgia. trump said, well, that's it, that disqualifies you as governor, i'm sending in somebody to run against you in the primary. and kemp stood his ground and won the primary. and to that voter, kemp suddenly became a very attractive candidate. and somebody like herschel walker, who's much more closely aligned with donald trump, it doesn't have that kind of a story you can see these big republican counties sort of on the outskirts of the atlanta metro area, it was really striking you see these 7, 8-point differences between where kemp is running and walker is running last night >> seth: how far could i zoom in on a district without you knowing what district it was on one of those maps? [ laughter ] >> is this the setup for a test here >> seth: no -- but i'm jus

the most interesting thing here is his link to kemp and his appointment by kemp. the governor of georgia has been in a back and forth with donald trump. i expect when we see donald trump potentially target him, as he targeted other judges, that might be the basis which he uses to say that this individual is associated with kemp and that's the reason that he is making a decision. there's another layer he won't have to deal with as much as other judges have. we have seen racial targeting of the judges. that's not something he will have to deal with. i do feel like there will be a large number of attacks aimed towards him regardless just because of any potential decisions that he makes down the line that are potentially unfavorable to donald trump. >> to say nothing of what willis has had to deal with on the racial front. barbara, let's talk about that. you have -- i want to ask you about there federal versus state court procedure. this judge has been on the bench for eight months. i was watching last night some of the georgia -- former officials down there saying he

brian kemp is calling him out. reasons that donna is right, the premise of your question is right, the indictments embolden donald trump is because all of the other republican leaders say brian kemp and a few others have spent two years saying this is a witch-hunt and i hope he doesn't get indicted, even mike pence who says donald trump did wrong says but i hope for the nation he doesn't get indicted. so for two years, all other leading republicans have actually been carrying the water for donald trump. they can't just flip on a dime and say, well, now i change my mind, i think he shouldn't run for president because he committed these alleged crimes. >> so, david, do you see things as essentially already set in concrete that it is donald trump because, i mean, we haven't seen the first debate that is coming up, but do you think it is already set? >> i very much think it is set. i think donald trump wins the nomination wire to wire. to my very first comment, though, we're entering a phase, this volume phase, if we w

we have a tweet from the governor brian kemp, saying the 2020 in georgia was not stolen.one with evidenc of fraud has failed to come forward for three years under oath and failed to prove anything under the court of law. our elections are secure and will continue to be as far as i'm future of governor. our future is at stake in 2024 d that must be our focus. until now, it seems to be the equation that anyone who goes against the former president suffers particularly in the polls, but that hasn't not been the case in georgia. how do you explain this? >> brian kemp is very popular with republican voters in the state, has been for a long time, is seen as a very conservative republican governor in an otherwise very conservative state. also what he is saying here is pretty clear, as is the secretary of state. if they did not defy truck, they would have to say donald trump is right. in other words, we cannot administer our own elections, which would be untenable. if they said donald trump is right, that means they were incompetent, but they are not. ultimately, republicans in g

brian kemp has passed these kinds of laws. plan to overturn the federal election may be stopped now because of d.a. willis' indictments, it doesn't mean there aren't still people in trump are trump world on the ground trying to guarantee his victory in georgia in 2024, right? >> yeah, no, i would tell you that between brian concern and the disgraced former president of the united states, donald trump, they are both in their ditty bags. they can't stop, they won't stop. they are going to continue on this path. we saw it. it didn't stop in 2020 when trump lost 50 lawsuits. it didn't stop in 2021 when the democrats got a governing trifecta with the house, the senate, and the white house. it didn't stop in the 2022 legislative session. in fact, it has spread. so there are trump types running for state government, trump types running for municipal government. the attacks on the vote. the attacks on absentee balloting. the misinformation. the disinformation. those things continue, as well as the threats of escalating violence. >> ns

my friend brian kemp said it well yesterday.orgia elections. >> that was former vice president and current republican presidential candidate mike pence addressing for the first time the georgia indictment of donald trump. he made those comments moments ago during his address to the national conference of state legislatures in indianapolis. >> jonathan lemire, some might say that's an easy thing for him to say. no. if you're running for president in a republican field where 91% of the people whose votes you're trying to get don't think donald trump did anything wrong, then being that direct is actually quite something, just like brian kemp yesterday tweeting something that he didn't have to tweet. i mean, there are a thousand different ways that they both could have said it without being that direct. i think we should tip our hat when people actually say the very things we're saying they should say all along. >> what kemp and pence did should be the norm. we shouldn't have to single it out and applaud it but we must because so fe

this new law that was signed by brian kemp in may. a, georgia republican senator is threatening, saying, that he plans as soon as that goes into effect in october, that he will use that new process to start proceedings, to get funny willis removed as prosecutor. did i describe that accurately? do you think they'll actually try to do it? >> oh, i think there definitely will be a complaint filed. perhaps more than one against district attorney willis. on october 1st or second. which is the date when the new prosecuting attorney qualifications commission start accepting complaints. we had an all-day conference here in georgia state law school last week. at the beginning i said, i think there's a hunter percent chance that's gonna happen. . the probability of that. >> if you were to be removed from her job by that process, and again, this is a process for which there is no president. it's a new power they've given themselves. so, it's never been used before. we can't say, this is a process that takes a, year this is a process that usually

this new law that was signed by brian kemp in may. a, georgia republican senator is threatening, saying, that he plans as soon as that goes into effect in october, that he will use that new process to start proceedings, to get funny willis removed as prosecutor. did i describe that accurately? do you think they'll actually try to do it? >> oh, i think there definitely will be a complaint filed. perhaps more than one against district attorney willis. on october 1st or second. which is the date when the new prosecuting attorney qualifications commission start accepting complaints. we had an all-day conference here in georgia state law school last week. at the beginning i said, i think there's a hunter percent chance that's gonna happen. . the probability of that. >> if you were to be removed from her job by that process, and again, this is a process for which there is no president. it's a new power they've given themselves. so, it's never been used before. we can't say, this is a process that takes a, year this is a process that usually

and so that's why georgia governor brian kemp can't screw this up in a particular way. because in 1943, we had to fix that particular problem. >> it's always a bad idea to make corruption too efficient. >> yes. >> like that's just too efficient. you have to set up some more smoke and mirrors. >> we need five people or eight people to do it all at once, not just one guy in his driver. >> i think what is going to be interesting to see, because this is something that jack smith was more subtle about if you will, is the doj piece. very? does phony look at, because that was specifically about georgia. jeffrey clark becomes, and i remember sitting, where jeffrey clark becomes the attorney general for, what, three hours? in part because of his work in georgia. and we know that fani willis looked at that, you know, to what you and chris were talking about, so much of the georgia stuff happens in public. it's not just the call, it's rudy and eastman testifying for the legislator. those were all via zoom and we have all the videos all of our show now for many, many months. the do

kemp and the republican courts have said that's not true. >>> oakland unified leaders announcing new funding to help students connect to the classroom. the school superintendent and city leaders plan to announce a more than $13 million federal grant to give students laptops. it would also help pay for wi-fi hotspots. the funding made possible from the emergency connectivity fund through the federal communications commission. a news conference will be held later this afternoon. >>> taking a live look at san francisco, it looks like a lovely friday. maybe a lovelier weekend. kari is here. >> we have been talking about next week, but we've seen being beautiful weather and sunshine. looking at san jose, if you're heading out, enjoying time for the rest of the afternoon outside, it's going to be sunny and temperatures warming up. and san francisco still seeing those clouds overhead, a little bit of fog over the bay, keeping those temperatures nice and mild as that breeze comes off of the bay. later on this evening, we've got the a's game happening at the coliseum. temperatures in the low

john bolton tells me he recently went to georgia to meet privately with kemp to gauge his interest about jumping in and taking on trump. >> both experienced governors. all right, robert costa. thank you. >>> well, today federal agents arrested an illinois woman who is accused of threatening to shoot former president trump and his youngest son, barron, who is 17 years old. court documents say that tracy fee ren za admitted to making her threat in emails to a school in palm beach, florida, in may and june. the trumps' primary residence is in palm beach. fee ren za is expected to be brought to florida to face charges. >>> a community in california is hken after a local business owner was shot to death. police say the gunman objected to the mother of nine displaying a pride flag outside her shop in lake arrowhead. here's cbs's elise preston. >> reporter: the pain palpable as community members cling to each other for comfort. signs of love and support flood this space where loved ones say hate killed lauri carleton. carleton was shot and killed friday after police say the shooter made several

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trump was on the phone talking to governor kemp, kemp wanted to be endorsed by trump in 2018.great, everything was up and up, why did not keep -- why didn't he go against the rules -- host: barbara comstock? guest: i encourage you to read the document, and 98 pages as it is full of facts. host: independent. caller: good morning. i agree with breaking of the big companies and bringing them down to a smaller level. we have to understand in the country, a small town america and the small businesses, -- to the guy who sells sandwiches on the corner, they are the next drivers in the country and everyone has been ignoring them is going to big tech because it is easier to find what you want to buy. there are problems with this. i words in a company owned by a chinese firm. there are worldwide. it was in the plastic industries. i go to numerous places looking for work in my area and they are owned by the communist chinese. some of them are and it is blatant because they fly the flag in the offices. if you're going to bring america back to a so net --sole net income where it drives the

you have to think that brian kemp is speaking for the majority of georgia republicans.mer popular senator. so brian kemp is the most republican -- is the most popular republican here in the state. he just came off a huge statewide victory. marjorie taylor greene is an extremely conservative district and she's seen as just representing really the base of the base at this point. so we certainly think that kemp is speaking for most republicans. but not all republicans. and that's why donald trump still has a majority support even among republicans here in the state. >> patricia murphy, thank you for the insight that only a great boots on the ground local reporter like you can bring. we appreciate it. >> thank you. >>> a new study out this morning paints a troubling picture for patients suffering from long covid symptoms. >>> breaking news out of los angeles this morning where more than 30 patients in critical condition at a los angeles hospital have been evacuated after a power outage. more on that ahead. the people who live anand work there. because you call these communi

good for him. >> nicole, do i have time to make a point about brian kemp?se, go ahead. >> i find himself at odds but i'm going to make this point about brian kemp. look, there is a reason why in battleground state and georgia is a battleground state right now brian kemp won reelection. and you can see in battleground states that trumpers aren't doing very well, right. so the future for the republican party in a broad sense in a general election is not what donald trump is. we saw donald trump's candidate in georgia lose while republicans statewide were winning, right. brian kemp is actually where -- is positioned to be a winner in a battleground state. they're following trump off the cliff. if you're in a red state, gung ho trump. but you're not going to be a donald trump-type candidate and be able to win tough races in pennsylvania, and in michigan and arizona and the emerging battleground states and that's the real challenge i think for the republican party, you know, moving forward is the electorate is more where brian kemp is than they are where donald

that is something that was even acknowledged by governor kemp.that was a fact that prompted this furious response from the former president, accusing the republican governor of blocking willis's impeachment. let's get more insight on this from michael moore, he is a former u.s. attorney for the middle district of georgia. so, the perfect person to take our questions on this. i mean michael, given the fact that when you look at the landscape here, the several efforts from republicans on impeachment doesn't seem likely to work. what do you make of this new effort, with the new law, on potentially ousting, or sanctioning prosecutors? do you think it's going -- could it work? >> well, i'm glad to be with you. i really think this is just an effort to get some press, the by a young senator from the north georgia area, he shares the area with a certain representative from the state, who likes to sort of throw some bombs like this. this is going nowhere. there is a law on the books, that the republicans passed, and the republican governor signed, that cr

you have governor brian kemp, publicly pushing back on donald trump, even right after that indictmentmer lieutenant governor jeff duncan. i was there in fulton county last week, he testified for hours before that grand jury, calling trump, quote, one of the biggest mistakes this country is ever made. georgia secretary of state, ron raffensperger, famously rebuffing trump's efforts for him to, quote, find those votes. these are all republican officials. so, what do you make of that rift in the republican party in terms of politics in georgia from that cult of trump? >> well, what we also know, katie, governor brian kemp, he might be saying this or that about what he wants the republican party to talk about. this is political for him. he is not standing on the side of democracy, he's not standing on the side of making sure that everyone who wanted to cast illegal ballot is able to do so. let's not forget, brian kemp is the same republican governor who signed -- into law, we're currently litigating throughout this entire process. he's still of the party of donald trump, he's not condemne

that governor kemp there.ators going even further saying donald trump should drop out of the race because of the criminal charges he faces. bill cassidy made the announcement during his interview on cnn. here's what he had to say about the former president's legal problems. >> there are 91 charges, i think. the charges most likely that seem a slam dunk are the ones, which is the mishandling of the legal documents. it seems again a very strong case. they have a tape-recording of his speaking of it. if it is prove p, we may have a candidate for president who's been convicted of a crime. i think joe biden needs to be replaced, but i don't think americans will vote for someone who has been convicted. >> do you think donald trump should drop out of the race? >> i think so, but obvious hi that's up to him. i mean you're asking me my opinion, but he will lose to joe biden if you look at the current polls. i'm a republican. i think any republican on that stage in milwaukee will do a better job than joe biden. >> joini

down with kemp!n with kemp! >> we get texts, personal cell number was doxed, personal e-mails were doxed. >> it wasn't just you, it was your family members. >> yeah. my wife mostly. and she got -- she got the more vile, you know, personal kind of stuff. >> state patrol and heightened security and bomb-sniffing dogs. there was a website that formed that put a picture of my house and my address and my name and my kids' names. >> you should go to jail, you are judas, you're a traitor, you've committed treason. >> reporter: the december 3rd hearing would bring even more chaos to the state in the aftermath of the election when a then little-known attorney appeared. >> what do you remember about john eastman's presentation that day? >> i thought it was ridiculous. >> these significant statutory violations are in my view more than enough -- >> he saw it as the duty of the legislature to step in and basically throw out the will of georgia voters and for the legislature to convene a special session and appoin

greg, brian kemp is an interesting figure.-trump politician, republican governor of georgia, leading into and ahead of the 2020 election. someone who has not dabbled in any of the coup and has not dabbled in efforts to overturn the will of the georgia vote. and here is not willing to dabble in the removal of fani willis. >> i've been covering governor kemp since 2002 when he was a state senate candidate in athens and i was a junior at the university of georgia. i've never seen a moment quite like this one. it happened at a press conference to update georgians about hurricane idalia and turned into a message about donald trump and the efforts to interfere with the georgia legislature once again. republicans and democrats see a replay of what happened in 2020 when these noxious conspiracy theories took hold and really made it violent rhetoric in georgia that leveled threats. ended one threats against sitting politicians and lawmakers. we're seeing a replay of that. i've talk to no fewer than five republicans who said they have b

kody, holocene it visor to governor kemp, appeared to shut down calls from trump supporters to enterhe atlanta journal-constitution on thursday, kemp compared the current calls to open the decades old pardon and parole law to the far-right attempts in 2020 to arrange a special session to overturn president biden's win in the state. quote, where have i heard a special session changing decades old law and overturning constitutional precedent before. what are people hoping to learn in the second kick of the election losing newell mule, and quote. now, even if the republican ranks could muster enough votes to push through this change, camp who is now in his second term is not likely to rally behind the effort. the georgia governor and trump parted ways in 2020 after he rejected trump's claims of election fraud in the state, not to mention trump's recent attempt to and seek kemp from office last year. attempt to a nd seek kemp fro office last yeshould trump findf convicted on the array of 13 state felony charges, could stand behind bars. some of the charges carry a mandatory minimum priso

. >> desantis had a one on one meeting, a discussion with georgia governor kemp. any way of his leanings? >> no, i don't think so. kemp and desantis have a lot in common in terms of the policies they have supported in florida and georgia. i think brian kemp is in a position right now where he is so popular in the national party, he's become a strong national republican figure. there's no advantage to him jumping in and endorsing anyone at this stage in the race. >> this now ahead of donald trump being arraigned. sources tell cnn he is going to show up at the fulton county jail thursday or friday. we've heard from legal analysts and even the sheriff who say he should be treated just like any other defendant. donald trump has been able to say, yeah, one more arraignment, this is only going to help with donations, with support. is there still that feeling? >> i think the sheriff has made it clear that he wanted to have trump fingerprinted and that a mugshot will be taken. of course, all of that will take place in private. it's not as if we're going to have cameras in

brian kemp beat david perdue in a primary process quite honestly by the biggest margin i've ever seenstate politics. 52%. donald trump campaigned for him and built him up, and then of course brian kemp went on to win over stacey abrams in the general. so republicans i think have wised up quicker than the rest of the republicans across the country because they value good conservative leadership that's not crazy. and that's the winning strategy as we go into this 2024 cycle. it's painful. it feels like fingernails down a chalkboard listening to tim scott and nikki haley and others kind of walking around, tiptoeing this question about donald trump. let's just stand up, let's get them to get in a room with a case of beer and a couple pizzas and agree, you know what? let's all call donald trump for what it is. they don't believe that this election was rigged. they don't believe what he's doing is good for the future of the party. and they certainly don't believe it's what's good to try to beat joe biden which should be an easy layup for us. they need to get in a room, be able to come out a

today we heard the republican governor of georgia, brian kemp. he rejected calls by the trump side for a special legislative session to investigate the d.a. is that a surprise? >> a lot of ways it's not. kemp said today it's not feasible for him to call a special session. it may be unconstitutional for him to call a special session for this purpose, and he's kind of in the same boat he was before with the trump allies. they were trying to convince him to call a special session to try to overturn the 2020 election results, kemp wouldn't go along with it at that point either. i think he's it clear whether he agrees or disagrees with the prosecution of this case, he's going to let the district attorney do his job. he's also not going to stick his neck out to do any favors. they don't have a particularly late relationship. trump recruited someone to run against him embarrassingly in a primary, so i don't think kemp is going to go out of his way at this point. >> what about this defense by mark meadows, everything he was doing was in his official purv

in georgia who have seen these cases presented support governor kemp. they didn't vote for donald trump. so this is a really good example of if the 2024 hopefuls are looking for a template on message and approach to p persuading voters, governor kemp has given it to them. he has had the blueprint. he's demonstrated you can speak truth to power, present your a case to the voters and win in a very tough state by doing exactly that. and yet, they all decide to look the other way or like we mentioned earlier, mixed messages and muddled messages. >> trump is now facing in total 91 criminal charges. 13 in the georgia election case, 4 in jack smith's january 6th case, 40 in jack smith's classified documents case, 34 in bragg's hush money case, and this guy, with 91 criminal charges, not only is the far and above leading candidate to be the republican nominee, he was tied with joe biden in a "new york times" poll. >> yeah, i think that after the first indictment, it was clear that this is a strong campaign strategy. we think this is the last indictment that he

that's a notable tweet that you just showcased from governor kemp.s kept an arm's length approach from the former president. he took care not to bash him as he was running for re-election last year and said he would still support the republican nominee for president even if it's trump. but it's notable that trump's calls to governor kemp were part of this indictment. >> so many different developments. i'm going to pivot to mark meadows. he is now moving to try to get the case moved from state to federal court. what's his argument? >> reporter: yeah, so we want to keep an eye on this, this is definitely something donald trump is anticipated to do as well. there's a mechanism provided in the federal statutes to allow for a defendant who's being criminally prosecuted in state court if they were a federal official when they did the particular acts that are part of the indictment in state court, there's a statute that allows them to try to remove their case from state court to federal court. is there necessarily an advantage to a criminal defendant in fed

kempsville is named after its species, the kemp's ridley.nly in the gulf of mexico, it's the world's smallest and most endangered sea turtle. the principal threat, says the aquarium's rehabilitation manager caitlin bovery, is human activity. >> the kemp's ridley is threatened by fisheries bycatch, habitat degradation from development, by all kinds of human impacts, from marine debris to pollution that is related from runoff and things like that, as well as our increasing climate temperatures. william: for bovery's team, each turtle they save is a win in the fight against extinction. >> every kemp's ridley is critically endangered. so it's incredibly important to make sure that they return to sea. william: the species has slowly rebounded since the 1980s when there were only a few hundred nesting females; today, there are an estimated 20,000 of the turtles. >> it's really one of the most incredible conservation stories and recovery stories that we have from the endangered species act. william: under the act, when a species is deemed near or a

brian kemp can also read the polls.t yesterday at an event that kept cosponsored by against pack that shows trump had a 53% in the georgia gop primary. so what the governor is doing is trying to navigate this thin line. he is saying, hey, these charges are a distraction. we should focus on 24. we should not focus on the 2020 obsession with false lies about election fraud. but at the same time, he is also saying he's gonna support whoever the nominee ends up being, if it's donald trump, that means he will have to back donald trump. >> greg, i appreciate it. i'm always grateful for the amount of detail that you have in your head, and the way you make that so accessible to. us greg bluestein a political reporter for the atlanta journal-constitution newspaper. he is an msnbc contributor. is also the author of the book flipped, how georgia tech purple, and broke the monopoly on republican power. purple, ani am joined now by jer rubin, opinion writer for the washington post, and also msnbc political analyst. she is the author

kemp posting today, "the 2020 election in georgia was not stolen our elections in georgia are secure, accessible, and fair." the georgia indictment adding to a legal minefield during the heat of the campaign trump's arraignment likely happening near the first gop debate then, there's that looming federal election interference case prosecutors want to start just before the iowa caucus in january. plus, a march 25th trial over hush money payments in manhattan, and a may 20th trial in florida on the classified documents case tonight, voters in georgia reacting to the new charges. >> i firmly believe from my standpoint that he's guilty >> the democrats are scared to death and they'll do anything they can to keep a republican, much less donald trump, get into office >> and jar let, jar let, as you noted, his calendar is getting complicated, and could have an impact on the first republican debate next week >> reporter: it could, lester and mr. trump is still undecided on whether he'll attend, according to two sources i've spoken to. the senior campaign leadership team is opposed. the rnc wa

you have brian kemp, the governor and others. we're not talking about the talking point of democrats that are trying to undermine donald trump. raffensperger, jeff duncan, brian kemp, all republicans and conservative ones at that. he's suggesting this was not a stolen election by any stretch of the imaginatimagination. he won by the magic number. also, the requests being made. the size of the lead here is significant in these areas. what does it tell you about the data points and the statement? >> the president will assert he won the election, he should be in office today and georgia should be a part of that. he hasn't deviated from it. it's not consistent with where he's been or where he is going. he's going to argue that he should have been in office for the last four years. >> let's talk about this document. we've been anticipating this indictment. something was posted on the docket. and there was a question, something was posted. and then, it was taken down. a yo-yo, take it and give it back. she had to answer questions. and

brian kemp said this is not a situation i see as ripe for that kind of investigation. to the level of not following the law or political prosecution that would be required to remove a d.a., and it's not going to happen on my watch. >> let me ask you about those two filings now, kenneth chesebro, let me read the crux of his argument. here's what it says, without knowing the identities of the coconspirators, it will be near impossible to follow what statements come from the unindicted coconspirators the state relies on to prove the underlying conspiracy. mr. chesebro must be able to challenge whether the unindicted cocon spoor tors' testimony is sufficiently corroborated. is that a compelling argument? >> it is a compelling argument in the sense that chesebro should be allowed to confront the witnesses against him. it's not a compelling argument in the sense that a majority of those who are listed as unindicted coconspirators are people that mr. chesebro, and for that matter, the public, should be able to identify. when we talk about the 30 unindicted coconspirators, chr

kemp posting that the election was not stolen our elections in georgia are secure, accessible and fair. the georgia indictment adding to a legal minefield during the heat of the campaign trump's arainment likely happ happening near the gop debate. then the case in january, plus a march 25th trial over hush money payments in manhattan and a may trial on the classified documents case >> i firmly believe from my standpoint that he's guilty. >> democrats are scared to death. they'll to anything they can to keep a republican, much less donald trump from getting into office >> our thanks to garrett for that report. >>> now to florida, where a defendant and one of trump's other cases entered a play after two botched attempts mar-a-lago property manager might pleaded not guilty de olivera was unable to enter a plea during previous court appearances because he was not able to secure a florida-based lawyer prosecutors accuse him of attempting to delete security video after learning officials wanted it. he was charged in a super see superseding case >>> new information about an american who cross

georgia governor brian kemp replied to a trump social media post yesterday writing in part this.iled to come forward under oath and prove anything in a court of law. our elections in georgia are secure, accessible, and fair and will continue to be as long as i am governor. georgia secretary of state brad raffensperger also put out a statement writing this, the most basic principles of a strong democracy and accountability are respect for the constitution and the rule of law. you either have it or you don't. really strong statements from both these officials more even than they needed to be. they wanted to prove that point. joining us now professor at princeton university our friend eddy glaude. you have said to me i think with accelerated frequency either on-air or privately you worry right now the nation is being tested, that we're experiencing a series of crises. and there's an open question as to whether or not the country can rise to meet this moment. what do you think right now? do you have faith in the american public, in public officials and voters alike that they can? >>

i do want to bring in a quote from the republican georgia governor, brian kemp, who said this on twitterresponse to donald trump. he saying that the 2020 election was not stolen and that for three years now anyone with evidence of fraud has failed to come forward under oath and prove anything in a court of law. the elections in georgia are secure, accessible, fair, and will continue to be as long as i am governor in the future of the country is at stake in 2024 and that must be the focus. what do you make of that statement coming from a republican governor? >> he's defending what was a fair election. trump lost georgia. there were extraordinary measures in georgia that caused this dilemma but i think that when governor kemp says the georgia elections were clean and fair, anyone who can attest to all the documents that it was, president trump has his beef and he's entitled to have that beef and entitled to say that the elections were not fair. but under this rico statute? that statement is a violation of law. that's not what we are ready for as a country, for the opposition to make a stat

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brian kemp is still the party of trump.till going along with all the other things that trump is supporting. >> i wonder, i know what we see on the surface. there are republicans who are willing in this very specific incidents out of georgia to call the former president out. i wonder how much the fulton county indictment is changing the georgia gop's larger relationship. not just with trump, with trumpism. >> yes, there are two factions of the republicans. there are those who crawl the former president out, there are the sort of maga wings, the marjorie taylor greene,'s the bird jones, the head of the state republican party, david schaffer, the successor, josh. they are more aligned with donald trump. either way, look, they see the polls. there is a poll that came out this weekend at a republican conference where donald trump was not and indicted. the folks are ready to move on to the -- there is a hush. the poll showed that donald trump has 53% of the support of georgia republicans. like the primary voters. that is a wake u

adam kemp is one of our community's correspondents. he's based in oklahoma city.f all, what's the proposal that the oklahoma officials have approved and who's asking for it approved and who's asking for it? >> it's an it's an online charter school called saint isidore of seville, interestingly enough, named after the proposed patron saint of internet users. it will be an onli charter school run by the catholic archdiocese of oklahoma. they plan on using it and they spelled this out directly in their application to spread their evangelical message of the church. that raises a lot of concerns for folks on matters of lgbtq plus issues, sexual gender orientation and sexual morality, whether or not, you know, all students will be accepted at this school. john: some of those concerns have led to a lawsuit, right? correspondent: that is right. there's been a coalition of groups that have kind of come forward, led by the aclu and the freedom from religion foundation, who are representing like nine different groups from oklahoma, nine residents, including teachers, some so

and brian kemp is responding to how elections were handled there.hat gives you some insight into donald trump and voters. those who are college graduates. >> yeah, so, you know, if you want to look within the trump skeptical voters within the republican party. trump has committed a serious federal crime. look at this, 27% of those republicans who have a college degree believe that he committed serious federal crimes versus just 12% among those who don't have a college degree. why is this so important that those with a college degree are more likely to be against trump when it comes to this issue? becau because i want you to take issue and it's the closest one that biden won, okay? look where georgia is in the six closest states. it's right near the top at 35%. only arizona has more republican voters. trump voters in 2020 who had a college degree, far more in georgia and wisconsin, 25%. so if we're looking for more movement away from donald trump in the 2024 election and georgia might be a place to start with arizona because those are the voters that

>> why is governor kemp saying that? does he love donald trump or fear what four more years of biden administration means? >> i think we are a deeply polarized teams. >> this is polarizing. this will be an indelible image that will live through history and the ultimate rorschach test. liberals will look at it and be delighted or think this is a moment of accountability. conservatives will say this is persecution. and let me say this, as a prosecutor thinking back to this case, that worries me because you need unanimity in that jury room. u need 12-0. if you have different people seeing that and it evokes strong emotions that is not good for you as a prosecutor. >> by the way, i think how would i feel about this if it was barack obama? just, that should be the basic question that republicans ask themselves. if 91 felony counts were committed by barack obama, would i be out shouting and calling for congressional hearings? yes. my party cannot hold him to a different standard than they would if this was a democrat. i rememb

i thought brian kemp would have been the strongest republican to run against trump.y successful governor who demonstrated curse -- courage. deciding not to run was in my mind, a tragedy of the party. i'm glad the republicans are one of the few brave holdouts. we need somebody to lead the charge. he was in perfect position. >> you asked if it is the road map, i think it is the road not taken. we have seen this road not taken by republican candidates and elected officials for years. that is because in their perception, which is probably correct, it is not in their political self-interest to do that. one of the interesting political questions involves georgia itself. very few battleground states in the 2024 election, georgia was close. donald trump only needed 11,900 780 votes. i do wonder since governor kemp had the state by a large margin, donald trump lost to joe biden by a small margin, if the impact of georgia might be in georgia rather than elsewhere. >> donald trump is planning to skip the first presidential debate. it is scheduled for wednesday, expected to set

kemp says he hasn't seen evidence that warrants her impeachment. but the bottom line is that in the state of georgia, as long as i'm governor, we're going to follow the law in the constitution, regardless of who it helps or harms politically. willis wants to try all 19 defendants in october. trump's team aims to delay and separate his case from anyone who files to have a speedy trial in washington. mala rivera, fox news. bart is launching the second phase of its campaign train designed to protect women and girls from sexual harassment . the initiative is called not one more girl. the public awareness campaign is in partnership with various community organized actions. the latest phase includes new posters outlining safety tips which will be placed on trains and at bart stations, as bart staff will also receive training on how to best handle situations involving riders who are experience seeing trauma from harassment. not one more girl is essential to our future success because it tackles an issue that literally stops people from riding our system.

republican governor brian kemp also rejecting calls for members of his own party to investigate district attorney fani willis. aaron katersky reporting tonight. >>> sentencing for two former leaders of the proud boys, convicted for their roles in the january 6th attack. joe biggs, who boasted about storming the capitol, today, in tears, pleading for leniency, before receiving one of the longest sentences so far. martha raddatz in washington. >>> supreme court justice clarence thomas disclosing trips paid for by his billionaire friend. five private flights last year. what his new filing also reveals. terry moran at the supreme court. >>> horrific images overseas. dozens of men, women, and children killed in a raging inferno. a massive fire tearing through a building. >>> 24 hours after that alarming scene involving senator mitch mcconnell, again freezing in front of the cameras, what the capitol physician is saying tonight. >>> here at home, the deadly helicopter crash outside new york city. the chopper going down in a lake. >>> and america strong. tonight, the nebraska volleyball team sm