we begin this evening with ken chenault, chairman and c.e.o. of american express. >> i believe this strongly, i talk to c.e.o.s and they look at me askance, what is the soul of your company? what do you stand for as a company? that's your core. for american express, we've focused on two hallmarks, as i call them -- reinvention and constancy. reinvention means we have to innovator -- i use the slogan innovate or die. we have to do that constantly. we have to reinvent ourselves. >> charlie: continue with judith rodin, president of the rockefeller foundation. >> cities on six continents around the world are competing to become part of the network. the effects of air quality have been written about on treasurers. >> charlie: danny aiello, on his "i only know who i am when i am somebody else." >> the triumph of becoming an actor, one side did and i achieved that success. i knew it was the only thing in life for me to be able to act to escape into other people. when i have pain, the greatest times i have is to fall into a character and forget about t

we just heard from ken chenault on this. there might be an issue with even though they've had record profits so far, exactly where the return on equity is going to come from over the next couple years. >> well, i have some concerns, but your overall point is a good one. frequently when you have these very, very large conglomerates and concentration of power, frequently it is the market that eventually breaks them up. you can see government playing a positive role. for example, teddy roosevelt, if you want to go back that far, helped accelerate that trend. but yeah, it is a competitive market. that's one of the things that's good about having a competitive market. but it's so pernicious about too big to fail. it gives huge funding advantages to institutions that are backed by the government. makes it harder for the competition to come in. >> just a final word before we let you go to put this in p perspecti perspective. the dodd-frank bill passed a couple years after the financial crisis. we're heading into 2015 with this deba

." >> ken chenault is here.e is chairman and ceo of a american express, among the world's breast -- best-known brands. if a credit card has been swiped by shoppers, the revolution is changing how we engage in commerce and let a digital transformation in american express. google chairman eric schmidt says that he provides the best leadership. i'm pleased to have ken chenault at this table for the first time. american express has been a supporter of this program for a number of years. for that, i'm both grateful and appreciative. good to have you here. tell me what it is that informs ,ou about the change elements and how a company responds to that, and the responsibility of a ceo. >> what is really exciting, the times that we live in today, it is this convergence of the online and off-line world. it is presenting incredible possibilities. but what's very important is that you can't look at your business in a narrow way. let me give you one example. it would be wrong for us to simply view ourselves as a company tha

we begin this evening with ken chenault, chairman and c.e.o. of american express. >> i believe this strongly, i talk to c.e.o.s and they look at me askance, what is the soul of your company? what do you stand for as a company? that's your core. for american express, we've focused on two hallmarks, as i call them -- reinvention and constancy. reinvention means we have to innovator -- i use the slogan innovate or die. we have to do that constantly. we have to reinvent ourselves. >> charlie: continue with judith rodin, president of the rockefeller