- the 30,000 foot view is also very important here. >> absolutely, because if sidney powell and ken chesbro were to have gone to trial or are going to trial with just chesbro now as the defendant, that would be the prosecutors putting on their entire case against donald trump and all of the other defendants for these two individuals who would be before the jury as criminal defendants. so sidney powell, she is not going to trial now because she's pleading guilty, agreeing to cooperate. ken chesbro we are waiting to see what he does as he's considering this plea offer that's on the table. something that happens that every criminal defendant is pretty much offered a plea deal to see if they want to take it before trial. what he does, though, is very crucial because if he chooses to take it, the trial goes away and it's back to the focus being on donald trump. that is the trial that would happen first, and there are implications, too, for the federal case against donald trump. these things are not -- they operate separately in court, the prosecutor teams are separate, but what's being charged i