i want to get ken christianson in now. >> yes.hink what i didn't see there during the simulation going from rapid depressurization, initially what happened, the other person would be getting the oxygen mask on. then the smoke goggles. then a transfer of air traffic control from one pilot to the other pilot. and then the other pilot would be getting their oxygen mask on and their smoke goggles. then there would be a crew communication between co-pilot and the pilot. get that com up before they talk with anybody else in the back of the airplane. they're the ones up front driving on the business end of the airplane. they would have to get that going. and then initiate the descend and then make the radio calls. >> mitchell? >> [ inaudible ]. >> marty, marty, stand by. stand by. your mic was not up. repeat what you said please. >> i was just saying that mitchell actually told me all this before we did this scenario that there would be a lot of what was just described for the simplistic sake of making the turn and showing it, i sort of

joining me now, chad sweet, ceo of the chertoff group, ken christianson, an expert in satellite technology. he's the president of integrative aviation solutions. his long resume includes time working with nasa and the department of homeland security. and around carr, president of american underwater search and survey. gentlemen, thank you all for joining us. chad, let me begin with you. why, first of all, does it take four days for the chinese to say, oh, we spotted this in this place and why are the pictures so bad? >> you have to remember this was a large area and they were probably digesting all that data. the second is they have over the last three years almost doubled the number of satellites they have. our own defense department is estimating they'll launch another hundred by 2015. they may have capabilities they're wishing to mask so they may have taken time to dumbdown their imagery to prevent showing full capabilities. >> you don't want folks in that region or anywhere else knowing you have that technology. >> that's true, but only a handful of actors such as the united states. yo

to tell us what happen ken christianson is here. tell us what was in the new york times earlier today. it was a preprogrammed flight plan, what does that tell you? >> the preprogrammed flight plan all pilots on all airlines put in the flight management system. and then that flight plan is filed with air traffic control facilities. when you input the data, it can be changed, out of flight traffic control when you are flying over land. they will give you rerouting and you have to modify that in flight. any aircraft can do that. >> you can change it in flight, too? it so manies to be a common thing among pilots. what about the report of will malaysia media they found short air strips on the pilot's simulator at home. the simoutor he built has been done by other pilots. it is not unusual to have a simulator and in this case the pilot took to youtube to show off expertise. why would you look for a short remote runway rather to land? >> that, there could be many reasons for that. i understand he is a flying enthusiast and flying professio

air force lieutenant ken christianson has flown search and rescue missions before and he joins us alln we get it in an ocean this deep? >> good morning, brian. yes, absolutely. we can get it, but it's going to take some time and i'm not quite sure just how deep the ocean is there. are you familiar with that? >> over 10,000 feet deep. >> okay. yes. 10,000 feet we can do. >> what is the limit? as we heard from maria molina's professor earlier, some spots are double that in that region. there is a trench. >> yeah. the trench will be more problematic, but there are robotic submersibles that the navy and i'm sure other navies have that capability. the u.s. navy does and they can submerse that and extract, cut through the airplane with robotics and extract that, much like they did to get the cockpit voice recorder and the flight data recorder from the airbus, air fans. >> so all things being calm, it's difficult to find anything if we understand it. with the weather as it is right now, currents, wind, and a form approaching as we heard in three days, discuss the difficulty there and what li