ken clark welcome to hardtalk.ou have served underfour prime ministers, heath, thatcher, major and cameron and yet you say we are now in the maddest situation. what do you mean by that? it is so chaotic and unpredictable. we got here by accident, nobody planned it. nobody thought that leave would win the referendum campaign. nigel farage was as amazed as david cameron to find he had won. both political parties lost their traditional political support to, or large parts of it. activist organisations do not represent their votes. loading patterns call it. an election produced no result whatsoever. we win the old mining tales to make towns but we lose kensington. and we lose canterbury to the labour party. let me sum it up. anyone who tells you, in my opinion, if anybody tells you that they know what is going to happen to british politics over the next 12 months is deceiving themselves. it is impossible to predict. would you like to see another uk wide vote, either on leaving the eu or, indeed, on the deal when it is

and ken clarke.f course father of the house. good evening. peter bone, what do you make of specifically the immigration stuff, that they are finding immigration as a negative? you knew that. we are only 132 days away from withdrawing from the european union, that is the good news. on immigration, this is project fear mark ii. we had project fear before the referendum. the british public listened to all the arguments, the economic arguments, and decided to vote leave. nigel farage says there will be a cost of immigration reduction, but what do you think? we will have a fairer immigration system and the same rules and regulations across the whole world. we're not going to discriminate in favour of the european union. an unemployed person from romania or somewhere could come into the country now, whereas a doctor or nurse from india will have to go through all the hoops. we will have a fairer immigration system, and all the parties can calibrate it how they want. should we take these figures are serious

ken clark is delivering a riveting 10-minute speech having to do with brexit.ting behind him is sir desmond swain who supports both brexit and a good afternoon power nap. >> i wouldn't argue any of them at any length at all because i address some of them in committee without actually having very adequate response to any of them. >> boy, he's deep, too, right? really getting comfortable there on the handsome green leather bench. after a half hour of full snoozing, he did snap back into consciousness. >>> back here at home, a moment in the united states senate that anyone who wears glasses could immediately sympathize with. at a meeting of the senate judiciary committee, senator orrin hatch reached up to remove a pair of imaginary glasses, and the web couldn't get enough of it. senator hatch's office responded to the questions about his phantom specs, oh, you mean the invisible glasses? they're new. >> i tried to adjust my contact before and bumped into my glasses. >> we've all been there. >>> something you've never seen in a sporting event. it happened last sund

in october he met with remainers ken clarke, nick clegg and lord adonis.sceptic group within the european parliament. ahead of the visit he had asked his radio listeners on lbc in london for suggested questions. and these were the three he took to his meeting. how does mr barnier view mass immigration into the eu coming across the mediterranean and elsewhere? what happens to the eu's economy if there's no trade deal with britain? does michel barnier understand why britain voted for brexit? so when we talked to him earlier, i asked mr farage whether mr barnier does undertand why britain voted for brexit? does understand why britain voted for brexit? what answers did you get from michel barnier to the three questions posed by your listeners, particularly that one as to whether he understands why britain voted for brexit? well, he said the british people were told a pack of lies, they were told there was £350 million a week for the national health service. i said, well, 0k, do you not understand that, actually, open—door immigration was the key driver that pu

. >> one of my favorite photos was a photo we found of ken clarke, the sociologist who was pivotal in brown v. board of ed decision, his research. that overturned segregated schools. it was just him outside smoking a pipe of his west chester suburb. it was an opportunity -- it was just him at home. >> right. >> and it was just -- it was just -- it was such a great image. and it was also an opportunity to think about how did this guy who pioneered the research on the harmful effects of segregation live out his life. and it was really interesting and complicated. >> and i agree and echo that in the thought of, you know, this is a photographer who knew monetta. you can feel that in the access you were saying. that there was this sort of ability to take these pictures and capture these moments and sort of that unfeddered access that sometimes now as we get sort of, you know, there are so many layers that photographers have to go through to get pictures taken. >> that's true. >> i know we have short of time. >> i do want to get to the last one here and we'll speak quickly. this is another

blew up the government got a bit of a battering from some of their own former remain mps, veteran ken clarke stuck in. sleepwalking to a brexit disaster, jumping over the cliff, whatever metaphor one wants to use. but of this government, and it could only be this government, doesn't get a grip at the top on the situation we will indeed walk into a brexit nightmare. meanwhile, in the house of lords, a rather different story. now, they are also debating brexit. the brexit bill is having its second day of intensive scrutiny by piers. but rather odd, and i suppose rather honourable thing happened in the house of lords, the minister resigned, and not for telling pork pies, or being caught with his trousers down or anything like that, but for the honourable reason that he wasn't in the chamber to answer the question. now, that is a breach of protocol. he decided that because he had not observed the niceties, the formalities of house of lords procedure he should resign, so have a listen. my lords, with the leave of the house i wonder if you would permit you to offer my sincere apologies to baron is