perhaps there are some brexiteers, and you could look at ken clarke, who is of course someone at ken ke, who is of course someone who has supported the european union for years, you might think this is an option we can go for now, but attach a second referendum to it and put it to the people and see what they want. but his preference ultimately would be to stay within the european union. so there is a variety of issues and thoughts within the conservative ranks. so those are two of the options. let's move to the third, which would be a confirmatory referendum regardless of the nature ofa referendum regardless of the nature of a brexit deal. yes. this was sponsored the first time round by margaret beckett and it did well. it came out top. but when you look at the abstention column, there is not much room for adding to the number we saw last time. we know the second referendum is not getting a parliamentary majority. however, those who support a people's vote would say if it comes out somewhere near the top tonight, maybe they can attach that as an amendment to one of these options that

a lot of speculation that ken clarke's customs union may just get through.t last time without one. you can see what the speaker has done. those motions about no deal, he has not selected those, his explanation is not only have they been defeated and defeated pretty heavily, but his point is in law, the default position is still that we leave without a deal, unless a deal is brought throughout this whole process is a unique kind of process and it is about trying to find some progress, trying to see if there's anything that mps would agree on. that is why he has selected the ones he has. what has changed since last tiny for example the common market 2.0, for example, the snp have said they will back this time. and labour have said they will actively support it. they will tell mps to vote for it. they will tell mps to vote for it. last time, those in favour of a second referendum did not bat these other so—called softer brexit options, which is why they was really no majority for any of them. last time round, it was noted to every single other option. we will h

and the panel was lighting up and i walked over to it and i picked it up and it was ken clark, detective me that they had arrested harvey. it was a real great sense of relief. it was almost indescribable. >> reporter: which is perhaps where the movie version of this story would end. but real life is not quite like that. for all the suspicion of steven's friends, the murder case against harvey morrow was rather weak. no evidence sufficient to prove that harvey shot steven then dumped his body in the ocean. >> we were looking for steven's dna on the boat. knowing that his death was caused by a gunshot wound it was pretty obvious that there should be something that said this is where it was. >> reporter: but there wasn't. no blood, no gun, no significant fingerprints. what they needed, couldn't find, was something that put the two men together on the far side of catalina island where that current would have caught the body, carried it round to the spot where boaters saw it floating face down in the water. they hunted everywhere for harvey's gps, but they never found it. months went by. harv

so a close vote on ken clarke's customs union plan but no overall majority for anything.ded to the result. this is now the second time the house has considered a wide variety of options for a way forward. it has once again failed to find a clear majority for any of the options. and yet, the result of the house decision on friday, not to endorse the withdrawal agreement, means that the default legal position is that the uk will leave the eu injust 11 days‘ time. the government continues to believe that the best course of action is to do so as soon as possible. if the house were to agree a deal this week him and may still be possible to avoid holding european parliamentary elections. cabinet will meet in the morning to consider the results of tonight vote and how we should proceed. may i suggest that possibly the house should have a chance to consider again the options that we had before us today in a debate on wednesday? so that the house can succeed where the prime minister has failed in presenting a credible, economic relationship with europe for the future that prevents

so the customs union, ken clarke put that in, can the closes last time.s of people thinking that could be the one that gets through. but it is very contentious. for many conservatives, it wasn't in their manifesto, they feel it totally goes against any kind of brexit in a meaningful way because the uk wouldn't be able to do its own trade deals, and then the other one, common market 2.0, again, they are pretty optimistic they might be able to get a majority in favour of this, and the downside for some, particularly some in the labour party, is that you have to have freedom of movement. interestingly, the snp are backing that this time around, and labour have decided to tell their mps to vote for it. it will be intriguing to see how many of them defied the orders from jeremy corbyn. the other plans are for a public vote, a referendum on any deal that gets through, and that is much more of a process argument, but again, they think they might have the numbers for that, in the final was is an snp attempt to really let parliament have a say particularly when it

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because the customs union bit only lost by three votes in parliament when ken clarke brought it forwardg to offer something different, to say call another referendum. going to offer something different, to say call another referendumm isa to say call another referendumm is a bit ofa no to say call another referendumm is a bit of a no win that, especially in the north of england, labour's heartland, these are staunch believer seats. they do not wa nt staunch believer seats. they do not want another referendum. the sunday express, exclusive, it says, ministers fear brexit is dead. express, exclusive, it says, ministers fear brexit is deadlj feel as if this ought to be read in some sort of voice of fury and incandescent rage. somewhere between iain duncan smith and jacob rees—mogg. iain duncan smith and jacob rees-mogg. it is very muted. crosstalk. can we talk about objectionable men? if you want to... there are libel laws in this country. the wrath of the brexiteers, those who thought we should leave and could presumably walk out nearly three years ago i just slammed the door and shove th

a confirmatory referendum and customs union, ken clarke's suggestion, where the two that got the most have an amendment to the business question for tomorrow to have a further opportunity on monday in the house of commons to see whether we could make further progress, because the customs union got within three votes, and that is a large question and the government has managed with its own deal after two and three quarters years. this is theresa may accepting, surely, that her deal on its own cannot get through with the erg and the dup, she is moving towards a softer brexit, isn't that something that you welcome? if that is what this is about, then of course i welcome it, it should have happened to and three quarters years ago, but i am not going to be churlish about it this evening, and if the meaningful vote is not coming back for the fourth time, you are right, it is recognition that her deal has run out of road and she needs to reach out of road and she needs to reach out across the house to find another way forward. the only way you are going to resolve this now, given that parlia

labour's valerie has had high praise for ken clarke, and he appeared to find it a bit much.eaker john bercow might seem an unlikely cover star for a john bercow might seem an unlikely cover starfor a german john bercow might seem an unlikely cover star for a german newspaper but here he is complete with his famous catchphrase. order! 50 years ago this week the first black life peer took his seat in the house of lords, the honour going to leer a co nsta nt lords, the honour going to leer a constant time. carol hall has the story. —— constantine. he makes history as the first black live peer. here he plays for the all west indies, then a barrister in a race relations campaign, his title lord constantine, recalling his heritage. to make that 50th anniversary, this bust of him is on display at the house of lords. his awards in 1969 made him the first life peer from trinidad. the second pays tribute. he was a man of dignity. in 1944, he took on a top hotel who was being racist towards him and his family, and won the case. that is 1944, before the windrush generation, he paved the

it was veteran conservative, ken clarke's proposal for a customs union that came closest, losing byjust three votes but, although parliament chose to take control of brexit, mps remain unable to speak with one voice. what we are all asking ourselves in this deadlock is what compromise would each and every member be prepared to accept in the national interest. on a point of order, mr speaker. and after his motion to stay in the single market was defeated, the former tory minister, nick boles, made this dramatic announcement before walking out of the chamber. my party refuses to compromise. i regret, therefore, to announce that i can no longer sit for this party. man: 0h, nick, nick, don't go, come on. while some fell on their swords, others just wanted to get on with brexit. in ten days from now we are due to leave the european union, which is what17.1i million people voted for. at the end of the day, the people are sovereign, not members of parliament. we do not elect the people, they elct us. we do not elect the people, they elect us. we are there to obey their instructions and they ga

it was veteran conservative ken clarke's proposal for a customs union that came closest, losing byjustotes, but although parliament chose to take control of brexit, mps remain unable to speak with one voice. what we are all asking ourselves in this deadlock is what compromise would each and every member be prepared to accept in the national interest. on a point of order, mr speaker. and after his motion to stay in the single market was defeated, the former tory minister nick boles made this dramatic announcement before walking out of the chamber. my party refuses to compromise. i regret therefore to announce that i can no longer sit for this party. man: 0h, nick, nick, don't go, come on. while some fell on their swords, others just wanted to get on with brexit. in ten days from now we are due to leave the european union, which is what17.1i million people voted for. at the end of the day, the people are sovereign, not members of parliament. we do not elect the people, they elect us. we are there to obey their instructions and they gave us an order to leave so, for god's sake, let's just

ken clarke's proposal for a customs union came closest, losing byjust three votes but, though parliament to take control of brexit, mps we re chose to take control of brexit, mps were unable to speak with one voice. what we are all asking ourselves in this deadlock is what compromise each and every member would be prepared to accept in the national interest. after his motion to stay in the single market was defeated, nick foles made this dramatic announcement before walking out of the chamber stop my party refuses to compromise. i regret therefore to announce that i can no longer set for this party. oh, nick, don't go. while some fell on their side, some wa nted while some fell on their side, some wanted to get on with brexit. in ten days from now we are due to leave the european union which is why people voted for. at the end of the day, the people are sovereign, not members of parliament. we do not elect their people, they obey us and if they gave us an order to leave so for gods let's just leave. if they gave us an order to leave so for gods let'sjust leave. whatever their position, i

however, ken clarke's proposal for a customs union was defeated by just three votes.his is how the house of commons speaker, john bercow, announced that all four options were defeated. ican i can now i can now announce i can now announce the outcome of the divisions on issues of our withdrawal and future relationship withdrawal and future relationship with the european union. in respect of mr clark's motion c, the ayes we re of mr clark's motion c, the ayes were 273, the noes were 276, so the noes habit. in respect to mr nicholas bowles's motion d, the ayes we re nicholas bowles's motion d, the ayes were 261, the noes were 282, so the noes habit. in respect to mr peter kyle's motion e, the ayes were 280, the noes were 282, so the noes have it. in respect tojoanna cherry‘s motion g, the ayes were 191, the noes were 292, so the noes habit. let's cross to our political correspondent, jessica parker. it looks like we are no further forward. that was the message from stephen barclay, who said that they had failed to reach a consensus. but now, ian blackford, on the motion

it's quite interesting and i look at my notes here that the chancellor, the former chancellor ken clarke'sms arrangement with the european union. but they were all negative votes but i suppose mr verhofstadt is just being a realist when he looks at what is not happening in the house of commons. the inability to rally around a common purpose. the referendum happened in 2016. it does seem quite extraordinary that at this hour there is still no clarity from the united kingdom. a cabinet meeting, which could last as long as five hours, is just getting under way. one of those attending is the education secretary damian hinds, who spoke to bbc breakfast earlier. he told dan walker that he believed the best, balanced approach remains the deal that the prime minister negotiated with the eu. i think as time goes on, people have got to go through what their first choice might have been, one of these other models. this is at least eight different ways we could leave the european union. but there isn't a majority for any of them and as i say, i think the government's negotiated a deal is the best bala

we've always said that if the prime minister was willing to link her deal to a peoples vote, if ken clarkered option is not to help the government to live out their withdrawal agreement. so we are compromising, saying, 0k, withdrawal agreement. so we are compromising, saying, ok, the pi minister believes that's the solution for that country, let's put it toa solution for that country, let's put it to a public vote and if that's what the public ones, that is what... if they don't... what the public ones, that is what... if they don't. .. that's a compromise. haven't you blown the chance for softer brexit in the uk and we could end up with a no deal? no, because this is day two. parliament had two days of this. we have wednesday to debate this further where the possibility of a long extension will be sought, where we may try on thursday to secure that in law, so parliament had not given up. we came incredibly close, just three votes in it. when the prime minister still, after 1000 days... i'm sorry i find it odd you keep saying we came incredibly close, just three votes, and that was the opt

it is quite interesting and i look at my note here that the chancellor, the former chancellor, ken clarkeree votes calling fora uk was rejected by three votes calling for a uk wide customs arrangement with the european union. i suppose when guy verhofstadt makes that comment, he is just when guy verhofstadt makes that comment, he isjust being a realist when he looks at what is not happening in the house of commons, the inability to rally around a common purpose. the referendum happened in 2016. it does seem extraordinary that, at this hour, there is still no clarity. can i just ask you from perhaps some mps who would have been in those votes yesterday, perhaps turning their view on you and saying well, perhaps it's your failure view on you and saying well, perhaps it's yourfailure or view on you and saying well, perhaps it's your failure or eu leaders' failure to fail to come up with a compromise that is at fault.|j failure to fail to come up with a compromise that is at fault. i don't think there is any point in a blame game, frankly. this is too serious to be pointing fingers. i think i

clark trail and jazz, fdr, etc. -- [no audio] -- >> what is missing? prof. white: the academics. what's missing is an analysis of the war. if you've seen the ken film, he has one veteran after the other describe what happened, the circumstance, etc. at best, only one fellow is the closest to the expert in the series i think there's also another. it isn't as if--is a story. ken burns goes into that in a big way. ken burns says, i'm not making history. i'm telling a story. he tells a story. do you agree with the story for -- or more is the story nonfiction or fiction or nice to hear from those who went to war? or is it, and terms of what a citizen should get out of this thing called the vietnam war? what are the lessons? there are people back and forth, carping about the way certain things were handled. there is in a cohesive analysis of what happened. again, he is in the business of being a commercial filmmaker. maybe he does not want to get too technical. or controversial, so as maybe his next film wouldn't be funded. that's probably a cynical view. he has great history in terms of the lewis and clark trail and jazz, fdr, etc. maybe it's becau

let's hear ken clarke talk about the idea.sh border question pretty well is solved. you are well under way, 90 odd percent on the way, to maintaining the belfast good friday agreement. let's remind ourselves exactly what the custom union is. here's the bbc‘schris morris. basically, the customs union makes trade between the 28 eu countries easier. when goods move between them there are no customs checks or charges imposed. but when goods enter the customs union from the rest of the world, there is a common charge, known as a tariff. take cars. that charge is 10% of their value. it's a way of protecting eu goods from cheaper foreign imports. obviously, though, if you're in the customs union, you've got to play by its rules. most importantly, one country, the uk, for example, can't strike its own trade deals with other countries around the world. the eu negotiate trade deals for all its members. why? well, because if the uk was able to set tariffs for imported cars at, say, 5% rather than 10%, then all those cars would be sent to

let's take the customs union first of all, ken clarke's proposal.ta i ns last time, and i have put the abstains on here. we will look at common market 2.0 as well in a second. is there ground for ken clarke to get that option across the line? definitely. 102 abstentions, and it is even closer because they miss counted one vote, so one vote has moved from the no column into the aye column, so the vote could go up. it is interesting some parties are saying it's not quite enough for them. ken clarke has been running this line, it is not an alternative to the common market 2.0, you can build upwards, and just set this baseline is a minimum of saying we should stay in a customs union, so we will see if that has a red line on how people will vote. and let's put up common market 2.0, because we are the snp and labour are going to whip for this tonight, and you can see the abstention column now much larger. is that the one that you would fancy getting a majority tonight? it is the one coming up fastest on the rails if we were talking about a horse race. eit

ken clarke, who we just saw talking to the bbc, he was the lead in the ttip negotiations for the uk,e united states, saying the other day that if you think you will get a trade dealfrom the us day that if you think you will get a trade deal from the us which day that if you think you will get a trade dealfrom the us which is easy, of course president trump has talked warmly about the uk, he says you are mistaken — when you talk to people there, what sort of a hard bargain do you think the united states would force? i think you are absolutely right that there is a fundamental choice facing the united kingdom in terms of whether it goes forward with a customs union and some participation in the single market, iad closer that the eu is aligned with the uk, the easier it is to negotiate on the border with northern ireland but the harder it is for free trade agreements. the big thing with the united states is that donald trump is going to try to negotiate a very strong deal, he will be in a stronger position in terms of negotiations than what the uk is going to be, and the biggest questio

i think there will be a narrow majority for ken clarke's customs union. enough to say that parliament will definitely do this. we then meet tomorrow, the cabinet, possibly an almighty bust up at my guess is that theresa may will come at the end of the day, seek to bring back her deal and give mps a straight choice between her deal and the customs union choice in the belief that a lot of brexiteers will think, we don't like mrs may's deal but we sure as hell do not like the customs union, saw support mrs may's deal. i am not sure even that will get it across the line which means by the end of the week we could be where we we re end of the week we could be where we were pretty much at the end of last week which is no further forward and the only real option beginning to open up is for someone, whether mrs may, parliament, idon't open up is for someone, whether mrs may, parliament, i don't know, someone to ask for more time. norman, thank you. more of of that interview with the chief whipjulian smith in ‘the brexit story: laura kuenssberg's inside story‘. we

reluctant to support this idea of a customs union that is being pushed by the former chancellor ken clarkave the best chance of success, it was only six votes short last time. but bear in mind if you're going to get a majority it really does have to be a pretty decisive majority to enable you to push through legislation in parliament. but i think the broad swathe of opinion is if anything is going to do it, it is going to be this idea of a customs union. interestingly, we heard from julian smith, the chief whip, lamenting on friday that after the general election which mrs may lost, or didn't win anyway, that perhaps was a lwa ys didn't win anyway, that perhaps was always going to be the most likely outcome, and also interesting too, the sense of despair almost mr smith felt about the level of infighting within the cabinet. have a listen to him. listen to him. i'm knackered, dealing with colleagues 24/7, frustrated with the fact that people don't see the light as clearly as i do. everybody was expecting the vote on that day and it was only almost at the last minute that the prime minister

the one word everyone is using is compromise, ken clarke who pushed forward the idea of a customs unionn idea of one or the other and then those who voted for both can and then those who voted for both ca n vote and then those who voted for both can vote for one and then we have a chance. that seems a possibility? that is right. if you combine everything, a customs union with something like the common market 2.0 and then a referendum on top of it, you get a referendum, but also throws away —— drives way more people, the difficulty is nobody believes that their option is ruled out and therefore they are continuing to play that for as long as they can. where will bb on friday? —— where will we be on friday? —— where will we be on friday? we will be watching the lords perhaps to see what they do with this bill but i think it will be more minutiae. thanks forjoining us. have you got more questions? please keep on sending your questions to us and at 230 this afternoon we'll be putting them to our experts — you can get in touch on twitter by using the hashtag #bbcaskthis, you can text 61124 o

the two that came out of last week in top place where ken clarke's proposal and another, both lookingtionship with the european union in terms of a customs union or customs union and single market. i am voting for both of those. we have defeated the prime minister's deal three times. we voted against leaving with no deal three times. therefore, the prime minister makes a fair point when she says ok, so what are you for? that is why, together as a cross—party group, we are running this indicative vote process. we defeated the government last week and that was why we had the first go on wednesday and we are having another go tonight. since it took the government two years to come up with a deal that was defeated overwhelmingly, it would be harsh to have a go mps for not sorting it out in go. everything is if. if something emerges tonight, a clear majority that you feel comfortable with, would it be enough to then, say theresa may brought her deal back on thursday, to say that on the basis that you are only talking about the withdrawal part of the agreement, we might back you? well, that