sorry, 2010, it was pps to ken clarke. forthe sorry, 2010, it was pps to ken clarke. for the last four years he has been a dedicated defence secretary and i want to recognise his work with ukraine and the armed forces. his decisions on sending military support to ukraine, and getting other nations to do more, on day classifying intelligence have all been beneficial for ukraine and for britain. today the defence secretary is presenting his plan for the future of the british armed forces at a time when we have the return of major war to the continent of europe as well as growing threats elsewhere in the world. as his own future is not short, how long is the she” future is not short, how long is the shelf life of this plan? industry and leaders can't be sure his successor will agree with his decisions, will accept his cuts, will act on his approach and they can't be sure how the strategic defence review plant built by his party and mine after the next election will reboot defence planning. it didn't have to be this way. labourwanted planning. it didn't have to be this wa

, a proper tory lord, ken clarke, a proper tory lefty, has supported the plan.ut next, he spent nearly 20 years at the beeb. but before finding renewed stardom here on this very channel, neil oliver, do you remember him from coast? well, he's back on the show in two minutes. and boy , show in two minutes. and boy, he's got a few truth bombs to drop. see you into . >> gb news is the people's . channel >> welcome to dan wootton tonight mark dolan in for the boss this week. a bbc in crisis special . time now for a man who special. time now for a man who worked at the beeb for nearly 20 years before becoming a gb news legend in his own right, neil oliver was well known as the beeb's coast guy before making the switch to gb news plying his trades as an expert, archaeologist, historian and author for the corporation across a series of hugely popular shows and series . across a series of hugely popular shows and series. he's with me now. neil, your reaction to this story . to this story. >> hi, mark. i'm sure the bbc would probably like me to point out that was never a

rwanda paul, rwanda as a barrister , even ken clarke came barrister, even ken clarke came out thinkingea. this week . and be a good idea. this week. and yet it's been ruled illegal. >> yes, by the court of appeal. well, the legal terminology or the reason for it is one of non it's reform and it's a french word. and it means that there was a risk that individuals sent to rwanda might be sent back to their home country. the court i didn't didn't find that rwanda was per se unsafe. it's quite right to say that . but they did right to say that. but they did say there was a risk of people being shipped back to their own country that breaches the country and that breaches the united international united kingdom's international obligations. again, when one obligations. but again, when one looks rwanda, think the looks at rwanda, i think the idea send maybe 3 to 500 idea was to send maybe 3 to 500 people to rwanda. that's all the rwandans can take. >> but it was meant to be disincentive. >> but if there's 74,000 people and only 300 are going to rwanda for a cost of £170,000 per person, it's no

ken clarke said they were bonkers.asn't going to stick to those spending plans myself if now the situation may be slightly different. and of course the conservatives, when they were in opposition in 20 years ago, they committed to labour's spending plans for quite a long time . quite a long time. >> the electorate looks at both parties and says there isn't really a paper between them. there's no jeopardy now in the tories saying, oh, don't vote for to for labour. they're going to spend your money. spend more of your money. they're us to the hilt. they're taxing us to the hilt. >> another >> and then there's another story sunday in the story in the sunday in the sunday times about how, you know, starmer he doesn't know, starmer saying he doesn't like what's the i'm not interested tree huggers . in interested in tree huggers. in fact, hate them. apparently fact, i hate them. apparently he's with he's discussion with ed miliband. right. miliband. that's right. >> tree hugger , isn't he? >> the mr tree hugger, isn't he? >>

ken clarke is my man. point that ken man.were not rewarded in the 1997 election for actually doing really good things with the economy. and labour's economic miracle in 1997 was off the back of that great groundwork. >> chris wild do you think that inherit tax is regressive ? inherit tax is regressive? people are effectively taxed twice , aren't they? twice, aren't they? >> yeah and you know, i'm kind of new to politics. i'm just getting into it. but like the last 12 months and i don't really know too much about it such, but it seems to me there's a bit of an armageddon going on and pull stuff and the tories pull out stuff like me, you know, like this for me, you know, i don't too much it to don't know too much about it to comment on it as such. well, it's just the idea, it, it's just the idea, isn't it, that you buy house that let's say you buy a house and spend your life and then you spend your life sort hard. sort of working hard. >> pay off the mortgage and >> you pay off the mortgage and when it goes to your kids for 80%

ken clarke is my man. point that ken man.hn major were not rewarded in the 1997 election for actually doing really good things with the economy. labour's economic economy. and labour's economic miracle in 1997 was off the back of that great groundwork. >> chris wild do you think that inherit tax is regressive ? inherit tax is regressive? people are effectively taxed twice , aren't they? twice, aren't they? >> yeah and you know, i'm kind of new to politics. i'm just getting into it. but like the last 12 months and i don't really know too much about it such, but it seems to me there's a bit of an armageddon going on and pull stuff and the tories pull out stuff like for you know, like this for me, you know, i don't too much about to don't know too much about it to comment on it as such. well, it's idea, isn't it, it's just the idea, isn't it, that say you buy house that let's say you buy a house and you your life and then you spend your life sort hard. sort of working hard. >> pay off the mortgage and >> you pay off the mortgage

but lord clarke, ken clarke , former lord clarke, ken clarke, former big beast of the conservative partys quite, quite a stunning intervention on this . he intervention on this. he believes that this small boats, this bill will stop the small boats . now i this bill will stop the small boats. now i find it quite interesting that he has chosen this moment to come out in favour when the lords has put at least 20 defeats against the house of commons piece of legislation and it just seems an odd one for him to get involved in. we know him for his economic prowess, but not necessarily for his immigration knowledge. so i find myself disagreeing with ken clarke, which is unfortunate because he is one of my sort of political heroes. but it is quite interesting that people are starting to speak up on either side, and it it's nice to get the feeling that the lords aren't just acting as a group. there are individuals involved, which is not just the bishops and the archbishop of canterbury as we we've seen, but some proper legal and political minds are now starting to speak out on whichever side of

but it's not even that right wing that ken clark, lord clark, as he now is, i know, had his american extraordinary. i was amazed by that . i was amazed by that. >> and he is a conservative and was conservative chancellor was a conservative chancellor but on the left of the conservative right, on the left of the conservative party and yet american express, true , sent yet american express, true, sent him so many forms and he thought, well, i be thought, well, i can't be bothered with that. >> well, i there are two >> well, i think there are two things on aren't things going on here, aren't there? first the there? the first is the politically exposed person. it's not a regulation. not even really a regulation. i think it's advisory, isn't it, for banks? >> it's secondary >> no, it's secondary legislation. it secondary legislation. >> so there's the >> okay. so there's the politically exposed person stuff. and then there's the environmental, social and governance stuff going on. and in a sense, the pep stuff is something that we can grasp more easily because it's defined someone who hel

and when you discover that ken clarke had a bank account, refused, i know even the chancellor, this islor, this is an absolute madness. this was meant stop dictators meant to stop dictators syphoning off funds and the worry is it puts off good people going into public life because they the hell with it. they think the hell with it. >> put up with all of >> we can't put up with all of this. >> and also its tentacles reach so wide. it's not just the so wide. so it's not just the politician, the politician, it's the politicians, family . it's politicians, family. it's the politicians, family. it's the politicians, . so the politicians, associates. so the producers programmes are producers of our programmes are almost certainly politically exposed persons, and that's just so unfair. >> got my subject access >> i got my subject access request at the end of last week back from the international organisations. i'm horrified by the list. jacob it's all yours. in just a moment. but before all of that , we have to go to the of that, we have to go to the weather and indeed to the . news weather a

and you know, it's been it's a decision that's even ken clarke.. and he said we have to give rwanda this, got to have a chance. and people have got to get behind the government. >> rebecca, what do you think about this idea of people opening their homes migrants opening their homes to migrants to get the numbers down? to get to get the numbers down? >> yeah, i mean, i don't think i should i wouldn't do it to help the out, but i the government out, but i wouldn't of having wouldn't be the idea of having somebody with me. but somebody live with me. but on quite lot sort of quite a lot of sort of boundaries. so i would i would be very to have somebody be very happy to have somebody who woman who also had who was a woman who also had a child. i think there's something really lovely about able really lovely about being able to all that to share childcare and all that kind and i think kind of stuff, and i think there's probably a lot to be said, as a single said, especially as a single parent with buddying up with someone that's not. wouldn't someone th

now i've noticed that a lot of commentators, some of whom surprised me a little bit, ken clarke, forectively around and saying, yeah, well, let's give the rwanda a policy a chance. i, i'm afraid, remain a little bit cynical . i afraid, remain a little bit cynical. i have a afraid, remain a little bit cynical . i have a concern, as cynical. i have a concern, as many barristers do, about the way in which the rwanda scheme has germinated . i think we've has germinated. i think we've got to do something because that's what the voters want . the that's what the voters want. the question really is what do we do ? the view is, let's try something. so what we're doing at the moment is trying the illegal migration act, which will come in in stages and then we'll see what happens with the decision of the supreme court . decision of the supreme court. remember, of course, the court of appeal was split between lord chief justice and the other two lords of appeal . so we'll have lords of appeal. so we'll have to see what happens. >> and the high court was supportive of the government. yes. so wha

. >> well, but it's ken clarke's credit or someone's credit card or or someone's unreal your father's because you're a politician, but your father happens to and then they can't have a bank account. >> oh, this is just childish. and i'm afraid is. and and so i'm afraid this is. and where this come down to? where does this come down to? not just the banks, it's also regular understanding regular was understanding actually just have actually. they don't just have to behind regulations and to hide behind regulations and said we've done to said this is what we've done to protect actually realise protect things actually realise what banking are for if what banking systems are for if you don't proper banking you don't have a proper banking system. enough , your system. funnily enough, your economy doesn't work very well. yeah to have that yeah and we need to have that functioning so there's functioning properly. so there's more coming in, more investment coming in, there's more confidence in banking there's more confidence in banki doing is actually pushing we're doing is actually pushing a

even ken clarke who is not hard line on immigration, said we should try rwanda because there is no othereaches international law. that is _ probably breaches international law. that is not _ probably breaches international law. that is not what _ probably breaches international law. that is not what the _ probably breaches international law. that is not what the judges - probably breaches international law. that is not what the judges are - that is not what the judges are found — that is not what the judges are found there last week. in fact, he said rwanda was a safe country. it said rwanda was a safe country. it has said rwanda was a safe country. has not got said rwanda was a safe country. it has not got to the end of its journey _ has not got to the end of its journey wait— has not got to the end of its journey. wait and _ has not got to the end of its journey. wait and see - has not got to the end of its journey. wait and see whati has not got to the end of its - journey. wait and see what happens at the _ journey. wait and see what happens at the end _ journey. wait and see what ha

lawson, the late nigel lawson, who was an arch brexiteer and also seen as a climate change denier, ken clarkeold the house of lords he was lost his amex bank account as did michael forsyth, two tories on completely different sides of the aisle. >> jeremy hunt for heaven's sake, the chancellor have denied an online bank account because these banks decide they don't like. i don't they like like. i don't think they like the much. stanley the tories very much. stanley well, mean, i, i hear what well, i mean, i, i hear what you're saying and i'm, i'm struck dumb. >> if i was struck dumb, i should be struck down. >> not today. >> not today. >> i am struck down because it's actually all new to me now. i really i really say to myself the biggest error of judgement these banks have made and this bank has made is actually tackling nigel farage. yeah, that was a mistake , you know, that was a mistake, you know, but the point. >> nigel farage made every single day is that it's not just about him. it's about everyone in this country who doesn't have a voice, who for one reason or another has been debunked

. >> we've got ken clarke, who's gone public, you know, on the liberal of the party. liberal wing ofoing nothing about illegal immigration option. no immigration is not an option. no one has advanced an alternative, he said. mean, there may he said. but i mean, there may be saying, well, look, be those saying, well, look, what about issues of going what about the issues of going after the people traffickers and policing along policing those beaches along france? i mean, this is a debate that continues this year, as it did year. did last year. >> think you make a very good >> i think you make a very good point . and to be fair to the point. and to be fair to the government, to an extent, they have given more resources to the national crime agency with a view to boosting ing the operations that they do jointly with police forces, not just in europe, but in the likes of turkey and elsewhere , because we turkey and elsewhere, because we know that many of these boats are being manufactured to order in these kind of pipeline, as you say, in these back shop sort of factories, if you like ,

and in fact, the bma , ken clarke, when he was health secretary and i was his minister of state, sayinge have to worry about. they're not. it's people like the bma who come out with outrage, aukus claims, whilst making people think they're talking to a doctor and not to a pretty cynical negotiator ehheh pretty cynical negotiator either. and you know, you about putting it into real terms , putting it into real terms, which i know you've got to look at when you're when you're in politics and looking at the economics, you've got to in economics, you've got to look in macro economics, you've got to look in mai o economics, you've got to look in mai get that. elaine in france >> i get that. elaine in france , though, says 35% injuries increase would raise junior doctors from on average, £14 an hour to £18 an hour, 6% takes them to £14, 84. so it doesn't seem very fair. >> no, it doesn't. but equally , >> no, it doesn't. but equally, we have to accept the fact that , look, when you look at the huge increases in nhs funding , huge increases in nhs funding, if that's not enough, you know , if t

i don't think mark meadows, rudy giuliani, jeff clark, ken cheeseborough will be surprised to be chargede the whole operation is closed down, and i think it will be and it might mean things will go on quite some time. again, assuming, always assuming we don't have to disaster wild card of trump winning the election in 2024. >> and anyone on the political pundit side knows that we make no predictions on this broadcast, at least in that space. i want to come back to you, luke. bill steppian steps away, but after that, 19 republicans go to the roosevelt room, sit down, and try to figure out how to help trump steal the election. the two firms they hire to try to find fraud have come up with goose eggs. and the lawsuits, i don't know if they lost all 60 by the 1942 when they convened in the roosevelt room, but they hadn't won any yet. they'd go on to win none except one on a procedural point. >> right, and one thing i'm watching of course here is how the people who have involved on higher levels planned to overturn the election. lower level false electors, right, these are people who, you kno

sarah clark reports from sydney this is suffice of a yes. ken pine. thousands rallied in parks and city centers across the country on sunday, showing support the greater recognition of the strategies 1st nations people. it's one of those moments i think way. i personally want to be on the right side of history. and i think the history of a strong in politics around ab regional culture is quite dismal. we have the great privileges this rarely and to have such an ancient community, continuous culture now in the nation. and it's important, they're recognized for holloman's pos legislation clearing the way for a referendum later this year astride into advice on whether the constitution should be amended to recognize indigenous australians for the 1st time and to establish an advisory body river standing aboriginal and torres strait auditors guarding federal parliament, the campaign declared sunday, a national day of action. today is all about a striking people going out to the people they know their workplace, find sporting areas and saying this is

receipts from ken creme,— and high tax receipts from ken creme—rel and high tax receipts from ken creme—re be clarkecularly our very own sam lister, who's one of our panellists every week, has splashed on this today about the fact there is this split fact that there is this split now the tory party and this now in the tory party and this is the last thing that rishi sunak needs. yeah, because beebbe— sunak needs. yeah, because beebbe-rem— sunak needs. yeah, because beebbe-rem-eeul sunak needs. yeah, because. people - tom - say we've people like tom hunt say we've got people like tom hunt say we've ebb-eur— people like tom hunt say we've got cut immigration. it was got to cut immigration. it was eoeooo— got to cut immigration. it was eoeooo beer— got to cut immigration. it was 606,000 last year. the government _ 606,000 last year. the government said they'd it government said they'd get it been— government said they'd get it been-rbe— government said they'd get it back-the levels— government said they'd get it back the levels it was in back to the levels it was in bore.— back to the levels it was in