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attorneys jim warwick and ken clark met with dolores and maliek. >> i introduced myself to mr.lgado? >> we present it to her the facts that we had, and the evidence that we had compiled against her at that point in time. >> after the arrest, came and new lead. a tip to detective harding from an ex-boyfriend of dolores is in florida. >> he called me and said a, one night i was hanging out with dolores and we got rid of a gun. and he said that i think that was your murder weapon. >> i mean, do you get calls like this every day? this is pretty remarkable? >> i wish, but we don't. >> investigators met the tipster in florida. he said that not long after karlyn's murder he and delores delgado had burned some clothing and sneakers here, and that wasn't all. he told them that he destroyed a revolver for her, dismantled it and that the two of them through the pieces of the gun of this pier. and fbi dive team from miami was soon on the scene. the water was clear that day and drivers found forensic sunken treasure. there, on the bottom, rusted, covered in seaweed and encrusted with barnac

look back at, say, the thatcher cabinet, you know , you had cabinet, you know, you had giants like ken clarket, but who took on the health service and reformed it, the education service, the prison service. you know, he was never idle. as soon as he was in office, he did things and we had giants in those days. and now i'm sorry we got big miss and what do you what do you think about truss's point that there is essentially a left wing blob that runs the country , whoever that runs the country, whoever is in power . is in power. >> is that an overstatement ? >> is that an overstatement? >> is that an overstatement? >> it may be a slight overstatement, but i think that there is no doubt at all that there is no doubt at all that the has been a long march through the institutions and that we do now have in positions of seniority people who are woke, people who are left wing, people who see things from that perspective . and it comes down perspective. and it comes down to a lack of professionalism. now, if you are for example, a senior civil servant, they're all part of the problem. if you're a sen

look back at, say, the thatcher cabinet, you know , you had cabinet, you know, you had giants like ken clarket, but who took on the health service and reformed it, the education service, the prison service. you know, he was never idle. as soon as he was in office, he did things and we had giants in those days. and now i'm sorry we got big miss and what do you what do you think about truss's point that there is essentially a left wing blob that runs the country , whoever that runs the country, whoever is in power . is in power. >> is that an overstatement ? >> is that an overstatement? >> is that an overstatement? >> it may be a slight overstatement, but i think that there is no doubt at all that there is no doubt at all that the has been a long march through the institutions and that we do now have in positions of seniority people who are woke, people who are left wing, people who see things from that perspective . and it comes down perspective. and it comes down to a lack of professionalism. now, if you are for example, a senior civil servant, they're all part of the problem. if you're a sen

instances in which the lawyers who are a part of the indictment went far and beyond what katie, clark, keni would consider the normal practice of law. in particular when i think about rudy giuliani and jenna ellis, for example, they went on road shows, they held special hearings where they made a number of representations about alleged facts having to do with election fraud. they talked about dead voters, ineligible voters, voting machine fraud, all unsubstantiated allegations when those people said to different audiences were unsubstantiated. they were not acting as lawyers in capacity with a particular litigation or even as an advocate for the campaign when they out and out lied to members of state legislators about what happened in the 2020 election. >> but cleta mitchell was on that phone call with raffensperger, right? >> to ken's point, we don't know why cleta mitchell wasn't charged. and i want to raise a point that i think is salient. cleta mitchell has a number of communications with john eastman and his role here. that could have been particularly important to fani willis and her

clark. joining us, nbc news justice and intelligence correspondent ken dilanian and former federal prosecutor khadori. any indications from meadows and clark or any other defendants on what they plan to do? >> good morning, jose. not really. this is really just a formality. this arraignment can be waived. an arraignment is just a formal reading of the charges and an entering of the plea. they can do that virtually or without appearing. the real question in this case is what happens with mark meadows' appeal to a federal judge to have this case moved to federal court, if he's successful in that. you have some defendants who are trying to go to trial as soon as this fall. then you have donald trump who wants to delay it as long as possible. so a collision of southwest there. we don't ex-next anybody to plead guilty. we expect them all to plead not guilty. we'll see where the schedule takes us. >> does it matter whether they waive their arraignment or decide to show up? >> it doesn't really matter if they're in prison or not. as ken said, this is an after mystic part of the criminal procedure. a

clark. you have speedy trial requests from ken chesebro and sidney powell.ber of fights that donald trump is going to bring. you've got rudy giuliani's likely challenges over information. this is going to be a logistical mess. will be interesting to see tomorrow is one of the things the judge asked fani willis to be prepared for, if you were to do all 19, how much time would you realistically need? it's not happening in october for all 19. there is no way this will be happening. >> everyone wants it. to your point about speedy trial, it can work. the prosecutor said if it was only up to her, maybe it could, right? but it's not. it's also the defendants who can say i want to go fast. and others are saying i don't want to hear anything about october and nothing about 2023. >> that's exactly right. the president made clear, he doesn't want the trial to go for it any time soon. he is going to do everything he can to throw sand in the gears of the former president, slow this thing down and make motions and try to get appeals rolling. he is going to have a very ha

clark who's trying to get his case removed to federal court. his lawyers have an extension until friday to file those motions. garrett, thank you. ken, you as well. joining us now, lisa ruben and catherine christian. good to have you. let's start with tarrio. we have a lot to talk about but he's happening right now. the sentencing from last week lasted about two hours before we knew. prosecutors want 33 years. that is a whole lot of time. are they likely to get that? >> no. they're not. the question is whether enrique tarrio will end up being the defendant in the january 6th case who gets the most time so far. that record is currently held by stewart rhodes and my law school classmate who is sentenced to 18 careers. right now, tarrio has made himself eligible for the terrorism enhancement. >> so enrique tarrio is interesting because he was never in d.c. during the insurrection. he was not allowed to be there, but he was in communication. he's been convicted of conspiracy. he's been convicted of obstruction. those are two charges that donald trump also faces in the federal election interference probe that jack smith is helming. can w

. >> while the letter was sent solely by jeff clark, it was written with the help of a new justice department employee named kenmulti-step plan to overturn the election. the letter mirrored some of eastman's unconstitutional theories. >> it would have created chaos in the states. i think that would have been disastrous for our country and our constitution. >> wasn't that the point of it, the letter, to create that chaos? >> i think so, yes. >> disturbed by the letter, donahue immediately responded to clark writing, quote, this would be a grave step for the department to take, and it would have tremendous constitutional, political, and social ramifications for the country. >> i had to make it clear to him there was no world which i and certainly the a.g. were going to sign a letter like that. >> rosen and donohue met with clark later that evening. >> i do remember at the very end saying to him, "what you are proposing is nothing less than having the united states justice department meddle in the outcome of an american presidential election." >> but, again, jeffrey clark ignored the direction of justice departmen

jeffrey clark, arguing that he was acting in his official role at the doj as donald trump lashes out at a request for a gag order. the texas attorney general, ken paxton acquitted in his impeachment trial but will his return to office be business as usual? then, the largest criminal hospice fraud case ever prosecuted. doctors accepting kickbacks for referring care that wasn't needed. all at the expense of the american taxpayer, as the 11th hour gets underway on this monday night. good evening once again, i am stephanie ruhle live at msnbc headquarters here in new york city. a key trump codefendant today, in the georgia election case is pointing the finger at, guess who? donald trump. today lawyers for one time trump justice department official, jeffrey clark went before a jury to try to get the charges against him to federal court. they told the court that trump, himself, directed clark to draft the letter to georgia state officials falsely stating that the doj had concerns about the 2020 election. meanwhile, rudy giuliani also a trump codefendant in the georgia case is being sued by his own lawyers for over one point $3 million in unpaid legal

jeffrey clark, arguing that he was acting in his official role at the doj as donald trump lashes out at a request for a gag order. the texas attorney general, kenminal hospice fraud case ever