let's bring in nina turner and ken cuccinelli.er, was there a chance to unite the country, and was it missed by the president? >> absolutely, chris. call him the petty president in chief. i mean he never misses an opportunity to be petty. and, you know, senator john mccain, as you just laid out, was a war hero. he served in the senate. people may not agree with all his policies. certainly i didn't. i did not. but this is not the time to argue the senator's policies when he has just died. it is absolutely the time for the president of the united states of america to be a diplomat and not continue to fight senator mccain even in death. you have veterans agencies, organizations ask the president continue to have the flag half-staff. he refused, putting it back up to full staff the next day instead of keeping it there until senator mccain was buried. so, yes, he missed a great opportunity to try to unite the country. but there's no surprise there when it comes to president donald j. trump. >> ken cuccinelli, you're a republican. who d

. >> ken cuccinelli, thanks so much. >>> and still ahead, the president arguing against his own impeachment saying if he's kicked out of office, the stock market will plunge and, quote, everybody will be very poor. is that a real concern facing investors? >>> plus, the pope is set to address thousands of catholics this hour in ireland after referring to the church sex abuse scandal as a failure. what are the faithful looking to hear from the holy father? what will you discover with a lens made by essilor? sharper vision, without limits. days that go from sun up to sun down. a whole world in all its beauty. three innovative technologies for our ultimate in vision, clarity, and protection. together in a single lens. essilor ultimate lens package. purchase the essilor ultimate lens package and get a second pair of qualifying lenses free. essilor. better sight. better life. be right back. with moderate to severe crohn's disease, i was there, just not always where i needed to be. is she alright? i hope so. so i talked to my doctor about humira. i learned humira is for people who still have sympt

we've got bakari sellers and ken cuccinelli. let's start with this proposition from the president.why i won't testify. perjury trap. even if i'm telling the truth, that makes me a liar. that's no good. the president's statement echos his attorney, rudy giuliani's, claim that truth ain't truth. bakari sellers, are you buying? >> well, let's just say first donald trump has had an allergy to the truth since as long as we've know him. a businessman, a candidate. we can go back to his inauguration where he said he had the largest inauguration in the history of the planet. we can talk about the fact that the best speech given at the rnc was actually michelle obama's speech performed by melania trump. we can go step by step and just show where this president has lied. and so sitting down with mueller is not something he should want to do. however, this is not a perjury trap. that's similar to my wife asking me, where were you last night? i can't say, i'm not answering that because it's a perjury trap. either you tell the truth, or you cannot tell the truth. i'm not sure this president is