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tonight, top homeland security official ken cuccinelli on the state of emergency in kenosha county. lou: wisconsin. cuccinelli on this story, black people feeling unsafe in their communities. how to stop the outrageous happenings with people in their communities, african-american communities but do rioters, here is the story, do rioters have to set fire to another american city? do you have to burn down innocent homes and businesses in minority neighborhoods where minorities are fleeing burning buildings? do you have to do that to tell the world that your protest matters? fox news contributor byron york, former ambassador nikki haley at the gop convention contrasting president trump america first foreign policy which what nikki haley calls the blame america first policies of joe biden and barack obama. some of president trump's most influential black supporters declaring at the gop convention

welcome back to the show, acting deputy director of homeland security, ken cuccinelli.tem? african-americans don't feel safe. express outrage over deaths of brianna taylor, george floyd, eric garner, but do have to set fire to an american to show your protest matters? >> of course not. it's a criminal act unto itself that is completely unconnected to the original act they're complaining about or allegedly complaining about. a lot of this is violent opportunism. to the extent, people like that, the looters and burners and destroyers, they distract from, if you watch the video of what happened in kenosha a discussion that needs to be had. that whole situation needs to be understood and just like the george floyd situation which was so tragic and the killing of george floyd, so much of the violence that happened after that gets in the way of having a public discussion about, you know, what changes might keep this from happening? what do we need to think about from a government standpoint about policing? all those kinds of constructive discussions get swept aside by violenc

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we talked to dhs secretary ken cuccinelli earlier.r thoughts on the conversation. watch. >> we're dealing with a mayor who hates president trump more than he loves the people in portland. and he doesn't care about peace if he thinks he can store cheap political points on the president while he is up for reelection. and the president just wants peace. that's all we did in kenosha is advance what was needed to achieve peace there. >> trace: it is a battle between the democrats and republicans now in several cities across the country, guy. >> yeah. if you look at portland, oregon, it is laughable to suggest that it is anyone's responsibility other than the hard left democratic leadership of that city and that state. to say this is donald trump, the true divider here, almost no one in portland takes their marching orders from donald trump. we're at almost 100 consecutive days of riot ins that city where these goons and antifa and marching through residential areas and assaulting people in the street and murdering trump supporters over the

with us is ken cuccinelli acting deputy of the dhs secretary.hank you for taking the time while we understand that the governor has indicated there that he will accept the president's offer of, you know, national guard troop help about 500 soldiers strong. that's a big number to deal with a big crisis. do you think it will be enough? >> yeah. and, you know, to the governor's credit, he hesitated like or stalled like we have seen in oregon. he moved his national guard option. i think he needed. >> morgan: quickly and he has realized that. he and the president, of course, have talked. both of them want peace on the streets of these communities. regardless of, you know, position. president or governor or what have you. and so, it's good to see cooperation to try to address this. it would be nice if it had happened a little faster to try to avoid some of the tragedy of yesterday. we have had enough tragedy here and now we need to bring peace. the way to do that is responsible overwhelming law enforcement presentation. ands that where we are headed.

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only two went through the senate approval process and check this wolf now and ken cuccinelli, were put in those positions in violation of the succession. that's what gao found and just so people know, it's called the congressional watchdog. they are a nonpartisan, fact based organization that does these investigations, submits their results to congress and now department of homeland security that they look into this, too. it matters because of the policies that they are putting in place, all of which are illegal, because everything that stems from them being in their positions illegally, everything that follows. whether it's the attacks on daca, the i.c.e raids, all the terrible things that they are doing at the behest of the president, should be undone and that's what my hope is that's what the ig is going to find. >> congressional reporter had on, it's hard to imagine either would be able to get senate confirmed. we have to leave it there. thank you very much for coming in this afternoon. >> coming up, there is big news in the battle against coronavirus. about a new test that could b

they knew that ken cuccinelli's appointment was going to come under scrutiny and probably didn't follow the vacancy's act law here, and there's been a series of acting dhs officials all over the map here, and at some point, it did seem as if that they were sort of misinterpreting the vacancies act law. the question, though, is what will congress do about it if anything. >>> up next, a stern warning from dr. anthony fauci about the risk of aiming for herd immunity to the coronavirus. >>> former white house health policy adviser dr. zeke emmanuel joins me to discuss that. you're watching msnbc. and with new deals every day you can explore endless options at every price point. get your outdoor oasis delivered fast so you can get the good times going. ♪ wayfair. you've got just what i need. ♪ this is xfi this complete from xfinity.ade. you'll get the xfi gateway with advanced security, so your connected devices are also protected. and stay out! plus with unlimited data, you can stream and scroll more than ever. and we'll ensure that you get the most wifi coverage throughout your home. this

ruled the two men leading the department of homeland security, secretary chad wolf and his deputy ken cuccinelli are not legally allowed to run the department because they were appointed by a person who was not supposed to be legally running that department. the president conducted his daily press conference just finished with that. he is going to go to new york city. he's got a speech there, and then his brother is in the hospital as well. reporters asking him how his brother's doing. the president says not well at all. we certainly have the very best wishes to the trump family. again, we don't know why his brother is in the hospital. but the president was very grim in his description of his brother's condition. >> all right, scott, thank you very much for that. we very much appreciate it. >>> so here at nbc bay area, we are continuing to talk about race with our special series "race in america: the conversation." last night we had a special guest who is the chief impact officer at american leadership forum in silicon valley. she talked about what it means to be an ally for the black lives matt

jillian: acting homeland security secretary ken cuccinelli said the blame game changed in portland afteremocrats once faulted federal agents for stoking violence, listen. >> the truth has overcome the narrative. the blame game has changed as things went on. there was a point where the portland mayor said we caused the violence and it was quickly pointed out that the violence was going on for five weeks before we added officers from outside of portland and so they changed the narrative to everything was getting better until we showed up and then it was we're the source and of course when the state police finally came in to police that area which the locals wouldn't and you've seen the last six nights in a row riots declared by the local police with no federal facilities involved. very sad. todd: take a look at this, a fox news alert now, fire ripping through rachael ray's home in upstate new york overnight. firefighters say the celebrity chef was inside when it started. ray, her husband and dog are all safe. she's been filming episodes of her talk show in the kitchen during the pandemic.

joining us now for reaction, dhs acting deputy secretary ken cuccinelli.nk you so much for joining us tonight. i would like you to first react to the supreme court clearing the way for some $2.5 billion of pentagon allocated funds to be used for the border wall. >> two enthusiastic thumbs-up. the president has told us and he has directed his administration to press ahead aggressively but always within the boundaries of the law, always within the boundaries of the law and the supreme court acknowledged today and is left the building of the wall continue. we passed 200 miles more than a month ago. we will pass 300 miles well before the end of the summer and we will pass 400 miles not long after that. we will certainly get well over 400 miles by the end of the year. just as this president promised. supreme court has kept us free to do it. customs and border protection and the army corps of engineers are pressing ahead hard to make it happen and today's win was a big one to make sure we stay on track for that goal. >> jason: it will and it will be most helpful

. >> testimony by secretary ken cuccinelli painted a picture, 140 officers sustained injuries during violent demonstrations outside the federal courthouse in portland and 97 arrest of protesters during the last two month. >> you're welcome to say something negative about antifa right now. she declined to speak so that is the position of the democratic party. >> someone who does have something to say, journalists and the know who was attacked by antifa last year. >> i was beaten so badly i was hospitalized. i still suffer from the effects of that injury. >> the fbi open 300 investigations into domestic terrorist and storage floyd's death. >> thank you. donald trump offering his condolences to the families of nine us military service members killed in the amphibious assault vehicle incident tweeting i'm deeply saddened by the tragic loss of eight marines and one sailor during a training exercise. our prayers are with their families. i thank them for the brave service their loved ones gave to our nation. the navy used in underwater search and rescue ship to find human remains a mile off

ken cuccinelli. ms. cox is the district attorney for district of texas and is the co-head of the department of justice's task force on violence -- violent antigovernment extremists. prior to her appointment, she was a senior adviser at mckinsey and company in the cyber security and risk practice. before that, she was an assistant u.s. attorney in the office she now leads and served as the chief of staff and senior counsel in the office of legal policy in the u.s. department of justice. ms. cox began her legal career with clerkships for a judge from the u.s. court of appeals for the 5th district and judge h barefoot sanders for the northern district of texas. she earned j.d. at the southern methodist university school of law and her bachelors from the university of texas at austin. our second witness is mr. ken cuccinelli, who is the senior official performing the duties of the deputy secretary of the department of homeland security. in that role, he oversees the functions of safeguarding the american peo

leland: we bring in acting dhs ken cuccinelli, there's talks that things are getting worse. >> i don'trse every weekend but this city we had more cities involved. we had this maybe a month as well and it didn't keep expanding but, you know, what concerns me this weekend is you now have opposing groups intentionally showing up in the same places at the same time and clearly the intent is to mix it up and, you know, having been a state attorney general, policing 101, when you have opposing groups is you keep them separate. leland: portland police, we have different video -- >> that was a complete failure. leland: portland police let them go at it, they didn't have the manpower to keep them apart or let them go at it. the federal courthouse that had been under siege for so long, things moved away from it a little bit, but the bomb threat closed federal courts, same pretext that was used back during rodney king riots but then president h w. bush to call up the marines and declare the act and if federal courts in portland can't operate? ken: well, first of all, this president hasn't taken a

that is it for us, thank you for being with us, tomorrow we have ken cuccinelli, pastor robert jefferse you join us and reorder my new book. on amazon.com and barnes & noble. good night from sussex. . ♪. reporter: i'm asking what you think he should do? president trump: like i say it's off the table. so i can't talk about sometime into the future. that's a big statement, right now it is off the table, is that a correct statement, mr. ambassador? >> the words chosen carefully by all the parties suspend by definition. look it off. temporary halt. it is off the table now but not off the table permanently. president trump: got it. reporter: [inaudible]. you said you want an accurate vote. president trump: right. reporter: postmaster general with policy changes in order to prevent

. >> joining us now is at acting deputy homeland security secretary ken cuccinelli.hank you for joining us. i appreciate your time. the democrats give a lot of lip service about voter suppression, intimidation, but when i see them targeting people that are conservatives, attending political events, it strikes me that that is a form of intimidation. what can homeland security and the federal government do about it? >> anywhere the president as is the secret service, so they do a great job. whether it's in dc or whether it's a new hampshire or wherever, but anywhere there are federal facilities, we have officers from the department of homeland security, that's a lot of what you saw in portland in july. it is amazing. you lead in with miller wheeler they're out of portland, portland has become almost a textbook version of exactly what not to do when you are responsible for the public safety of a cd. including governor brown in oregon with a two week exception when she sent in some state police for a little while, she declined to use or national guard, she has 7800 of th

administration sent federal officers to guard that courthouse under siege, deputy dhs secretary ken cuccinelli revealed that more than 140 officers have sustained injuries. while those federal officers are in a setback position with oregon state police in the front, as you mention, it looks like we could be in for a 70th night tonight. we will see. harris? >> harris: wow, it's been a long, long time with that on the streets of portland, oregon. griff jenkins, thank you very much. president trump laying off his criticism of mail-in voting, at least when it comes to the state of florida. the president now endorsing the practice there despite his repeated claims that mail-in ballots are vulnerable to fraud. critics say the about-face is because of the state's large senior population. however, the president says it comes down to how it is executed. >> florida is different in the sense that they've been doing it, and they've had to cope very good governess, frankly, they have an infrastructure that is taking years to build. in nevada, they start flowing very soon and he just threw it out there. >>

that is it for us, thank you for being with us, tomorrow we have ken cuccinelli, pastor robert jeffers hope you join us and reorder my new book. on amazon.com and barnes & noble. gogogogogo maria: good morning, happy friday. i'm maria bartiromo, it's friday august 14th, top stories 6:00 a.m. on the east coast. stimulus stalemate. lawmakers leaving recess with no end in sight. >> they want 3 and a half billion dollars for something that will turn out to be fraudulent. that's election money basically. they want 3 and a half billion dollars for the mail-in votes.

that's according to the acting deputy homeland security secretary ken cuccinelli told al today that the addressing concerns about the military-like appearance of some of the customs and border patrol officers uniforms. hawaii democrat senator mazie hirono walked out of a out of a senate judiciary committee on antifa today after complaining that she did not want to listen to anymore rhetorical speeches from texas republican senator ted cruz, who was chairing the hearing. cruz thank her for her "uplifting words," and the meeting was adjourned. fallout from the riots and unrest beginning to take its toll on america's big cities, how you the taxpayer are footing the bill. that is next. ♪ ♪ book two separate qualifying stays and earn a free night. the open road is open again. and wherever you're headed, choice hotels is there. book direct at choicehotels.com. >> shannon: tonight, taxpayer's on the hook in major u.s. cities because of ongoing and often violent protest. over time alone for police officers costing millions. hillary vaughn gives us a breakdown. hey, hillary. >> shannon, as ongoi

tomorrow our guests include ken cuccinelli, sara carter and michael pillsbury.k you for being with us tonight. good night from sussex. ♪. president trump: especially from high-risk family members and friends. so important, isolate yourself from high-risk family members and friends. if you're not feeling well. together we will defeat the virus, emerge from this safer and stronger than ever. thanks to the robust federal action in partnership with state and local leaders, new cases of the virus are declining in 80% of the jurisdictions which is an incredible number. the overall test positivity rate is declined by 8% since last week. zero states have seen outbreaks get worse since yesterday. so zero states.

tomorrow our guests include ken cuccinelli, sara carter and michael pillsbury.k you for being with us tonight. good night from sussex. maria: good thursday morning, everybody, good morning to you. i'm maria bartiromo, it is august 6th, 6:00 a.m. on the east coast. stimulus showdown, white house putting pressure on democrats to reach a compromise. president trump once again considering taking executive action. we will have the latest from washington as the clock ticks toward recess at the end to have week. the trump campaign pushing for debate to take place before early voting begin. this as joe biden sounds off on reporter asking him if he's a junky. twitter suspending the account. the war on wealth, berni

accountability office has the hirings of acting homeland security secretary chad wolf and deputy ken cuccinelliproper. challenged in court it could bring into question the policy actions taken since they've taken over the jobs. homeland security says that the report is baseless. oregon state police are leaving portland after a two-week assignment to help protect a federal courthouse under attack by protesters. a state police official says forces are moving "back to counties" where prosecution of criminal conduct is to a priority. earlier this week the county district attorney said he will not prosecute people arrested for nonviolent misdemeanors. since those protests began more than 500 people have been arrested. coming up on 80 days of protest that sometimes have turned into riots and violence. so far fewer than 50 people are being prosecuted. florida suburbs are experiencing a population boom right now. it's not because of the weather. correspondent bryan llenas in west palm beach tonight tells us it's all about covid in crime. >> never been in the history. >> it's 100 year history, the compa

ken cuccinelli, pastor robert jeffers, we hope you join us and reorder my new book. on amazon.com and barnes & noble. go you with us. good night from sussex. ♪. reporter: i'm asking what you think he should do? president trump: like i say it's off the table. so i can't talk about sometime into the future. that's a big statement, right now it is off the table, is that a correct statement, mr. ambassador? >> the words chosen carefully by all the parties suspend by definition. look it off. temporary halt. it is off the table now but not off the table permanently. president trump: got it. reporter: [inaudible]. you said you want an accurate vote. president trump: right. reporter: postmaster general with policy changes in order to prevent delays. president trump: no i wouldn't do that at all. i want the post office to run properly, which makes sense of the they would need a lot more money if they're going to be taking in tens of billions of dollars coming out of the sky from nowhere. they need additional financial help. it is a part of the bill that the democrats don't wa

acting deputy homeland security secretary ken cuccinelli says that is a pathetic.dership. why don't they call in the national guard there? >> the national guard would solve the problem but it is a fair question for the governor that he is elected to serve regardless of party. but if you're not taking actions necessary, then your culpability can be assigned publicly and the governor failed his state. elizabeth: all right. david webb, thank you so much. really appreciate it. come back soon. >> anytime. elizabeth: still ahead. house intelligence ranking republican devin nunes, former cia director john brennan. john brennan interviewed reportedly for eight hours on friday acia headquarters. here is the debate. is john brennan safe or is he still in trouble? that story coming up. liberty mutual customizes your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need. i wish i could shake your hand. granted. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ (vo) audi e-tron.vo) the next frontier of electric. get an exceptional offer at your local audi dealer. a

according to the watchdog, chad wolf, acting secretary of dsh, and ken cuccinelli, were not installed according to the proper order of succession. democrats have called on them to resign. last week, the aclu called for dismantling dhs by breaking it up into smaller federal agencies. immigration activists say the agency should be fully abolished. anti-racist protesters were violently confronted by right-wing groups in several cities over the weekend. in georgia, a pro-confederacy rally drew armed, far-right militia members to the stone mountain confederate memorial in stone mountain park saturday. they attacked anti-fascist and black lives matter protesters with pepper spray as the counter protesters chanted, "go home racists!" meanwhile, in kalamazoo, michigan, members of the far-right hate group the proud boys started attacking counter protesters who showed up at their rally. the proud boys waved american and trump flags and shouted racist slogans. samuel robinson, a local, black reporter from mlive was arrested and briefly detained, while covering the protest, despite identifying hi

tomorrow our guests include ken cuccinelli, sara carter and michael pillsbury. we hope you will be with us. thank you for being with us tonight. good night from sussex ♪. president trump: especially from high-risk family members and friends. so important, isolate yourself from high-risk family members and friends. if you're not feeling well. together we will defeat the virus, emerge from this safer and stronger than ever. thanks to the robust federal action in partnership with state and local leaders, new cases of the virus are declining in 80% of the jurisdictions which is an incredible number. the overall test positivity rate is declined by 8% since last week. zero states have seen outbreaks get worse since yesterday. so zero states. we're also continuing to make progress in the development of a vaccine. this is something so important. also therapeutics are on the front burner. we're having tremendous, i think we'll let you know very soon, i think long before the end of the year, we're having tremendous success on therapeutics and tremendous success on vaccine

acting secretary chad wolf and his acting deputy ken cuccinelli violated succession rules at federalncies, since the last senatcoirmed d.h.s. secretary resigned in 2019. the watchdog has now referred the issue to the agency's inspector general. in economic news, retail spending returned to pre-pandemic levels in july. but, sales weren't quites strong as analysts had hoped. and trading was light on wall street today. the dow jones industrial average gained 34 points to close at 27,931. the nasdaq fell 23 points, and the s&p 500 shed half a point. still to come on the newshour: the trump administration intensifies efforts to undermine mail-in voting and the postal service. n.b.a. commissioner adam silver details how the league is able to play games during the pandemic. temporary coronavirus response jobs take the place of traditional summer jobs for young people. and, much more. >> woodruff: new warnings from the u.s. postal service are coming to light today, suggesting that it will not be able to deliver all mail-in ballots in time to be counted for the election. that message came in

joining us now is ken cuccinelli, the acting deputy secretary of homeland security. mr. cuccinelli, thank you so much for your time this morning. i want to jump right to it. >> good morning. some of the people being turned away as part of these rapid expulsions include children, infants as young as 8 months old, does the united states have the moral or a legal obligation to hear these asylum claims even during a pandemic? >> so, the asylum system is still up but we're operating under the cdc's public health order from mid-march. this has been the case for a number of months now and families, of course, are kept together and they are turned over, 80% to your point about the rapid return are now returned in under two hours, they don't come through our facilities. they can and they do make for instance what are called claims, torture claims, those do come to the border patrol facilities and those are adjudicated by uscis officers. the others go straight back to mexico. mexico has been very accommodating in terms of that, and we have set up with mexico for a year and a half

was asked by some members of congress to look into whether chad wolf, the acting secretary and ken cuccinelli, who is described by dhs as the person serving as the -- in the position of acting deputy secretary of dhs, whether they constitutionally, legally have their jobs and the gao says no, they don't. they're not entitled to have those positions. this is the gao's logic. they say when the last senate confirmed person who was dhs secretary, kristen nielsen, resigned, there was an order of designation, an order of succession of who would fill these jobs if they became vacant. then she was succeeded by an acting secretary kevin maclainen who changed the orbit der of succession, but gao says kevin himself shouldn't have been in that position, so he had no authority to change the order of succession. that's why gao says they don't have, under the law, the vacancies reform act and the homeland security act that created homeland security, they provide for who takes these jobs if there is a vacancy and they say these two officials don't meet the needs of those statutes. now, the gao's conclusion i

ken cuccinelli. of the is the co-head department of justice's task force on violence anti-government extremists. prior to her appointment, she was a senior adviser at mackenzie and company and the cybersecurity risk practice. she was an assistant u.s. attorney in the office she now leads and served as the chief of staff and senior counsel in the office of legal policy in the u.s. department of justice. she began her legal career with clerkships for a judge from the u.s. court of appeals for the 5th district and judge sanders for the northern district of texas. he earned j.d. at the southern methodist university and university of texas at austin. mr. ken cuccinelli, who is the senior official performing the duties of the deputy secretary of homeland security. he oversees the functions of safeguarding the american people and our homeland. before assuming his current position, he served in the virginia state senate from 2002 -2010 and from 2010 to 2014 he served as the attorney general of virginia. befo