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ken dilanian joins us from washington. good to see you. i want to play for you a little of what house judiciary chair said at the start of the hearing. >> the fbi's inaction in the weeks leading up to january 6 is baffling. it's hard to tell whether the fbi headquarters missed the evidence which had been flagged by field offices and was available for all the world to see or whether the bureau sas saw the intelligence and failed to act. >> how did the director respond to that? >> reporter: not clearly. he said the fbi was aware of chatter about violence pre january 6 but had no intelligence that hundreds or thousands of people would swarm the capitol. of course, what he didn't say was what exactly did the fbi know and what did it do with the information? in that sense, this has been a missed opportunity. i know from my own reporting there's tension in the fbi about how to handle violent postings by domestic extremists online. a lot of people say things online that they never follow through with. he even said today that almost none of the 50
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ken dilanian has been following the story. there's a lot we don't know here.sel's records? what kind of investigations into this are we going to see? >> reporter: that's the great unsolved mystery, the why at this point, chris. from the time line, it appears that these subpoenas went out around the time that don mcgahn was resisting president trump's order that he fire special council robert mueller and stories about that were appearing in the press. it's possible that mcgahn was swept up in a leaks investigation. what's curious about that is that exchange does not appear to be classified or pertaining to national security. it's not clear that would have been illegal. taken together, that's a troubling pattern here that critics are seeing of the justice department investigating and grabbing up records of people connected to stories that were unfavorable to donald trump. don mcgahn, democratic members of congress and staffers and the news media. there's a real question about how that happened and why it was kept secret. they got judges to order the providers, a
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i want to bring in nbc justice correspondent pete williams and ken dilanian who covers intelligence and national security. ken, you just posted this morning a big article about this. is this new strategy a direct response to january 6, or is there more to it than that? >> chris, clearly the intense focus on this issue was prompted in part by the january 6 riots which some experts say was the most consequential domestic terrorism incident in our history. but it goes beyond that, chris. when president biden took office, he ordered up an intelligence assessment on terrorism. that assessment found that between 2017 and 2019, there were 57 deaths from domestic terrorism, 47 of which were racially motivated. they found that 2019 was the most lethal year of domestic terrorist incidents since 1995, the year of the oklahoma city bombing. what this and other reviews found is that the u.s. government is just not well situated to tackle this threat. so this new strategy calls for, among other things, more focus by the fbi on this problem and more scrutiny by the department of homeland security and
i want to bring in nbc justice correspondent pete williams and ken dilanian who covers intelligence and national security. ken, you just posted this morning a big article about this. is this new strategy a direct response to january 6, or is there more to it than that? >> chris, clearly the intense focus on this issue was prompted in part by the january 6 riots which some experts say was the most consequential domestic terrorism incident in our history. but it goes beyond that, chris....
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root causes of the insurrection, nor did it examine the former president's handling of it nbc's ken dilanianers national intelligence for us ken, the report did make some recommendations. >> that's right, shep. the report makes a number of recommendations to overhaul the capitol police it calls for congress to pass legislation that would allow the police chief to request assistance directly from the d.c. national guard during an emergency, which is something the chief could not do if you recall on january 6th. the report calls for more training and funding and would form the board that oversees the capitol policee when it comes to federal intelligence agencies, this bipartisan report calls for them to review how they handle threats made on social media that's really part of a larger debate about how and when it's appropriate for the fbi and other agencies to conduct surveillance of speech that foments violence and what constitutes actionable intelligence here's the former capitol police chief on that. >> we see that the report highlighted a disconnect at the larger national issue about what
root causes of the insurrection, nor did it examine the former president's handling of it nbc's ken dilanianers national intelligence for us ken, the report did make some recommendations. >> that's right, shep. the report makes a number of recommendations to overhaul the capitol police it calls for congress to pass legislation that would allow the police chief to request assistance directly from the d.c. national guard during an emergency, which is something the chief could not do if you...
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joining us now is nbc news national security and intelligence correspondent ken dilanian, and help ust, because you and others have said that there were explicit threats to the capitol leading up to the january 6th attack. >> yes. and the reason that is this is significant is that the fbi since january 6th has been downplaying the intelligence value of the threats that we have all seen on social media, but here is fbi in this court document in the case of the nypd officer who is charged with assaulting a capitol police officer, and saying that we have done a review of the social media posts, and they were vowing to bring violence to the capitol, and they would not tell me whether they did it before january 6th or after, but what is interesting is the language contrasted how secretary wray vastly was in contrast to the trove. the fbi called it a massive communication failure, and wray said well, it is hard to discern, and we didn't have any actionable intelligence, but yet, here is an fbi report filed in court that there is plenty of evidence that people were sort of telegraphing what
joining us now is nbc news national security and intelligence correspondent ken dilanian, and help ust, because you and others have said that there were explicit threats to the capitol leading up to the january 6th attack. >> yes. and the reason that is this is significant is that the fbi since january 6th has been downplaying the intelligence value of the threats that we have all seen on social media, but here is fbi in this court document in the case of the nypd officer who is charged...
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all right, joining us now are nbc national security correspondent ken dilanian, and msnbc contributor betsy woodruff swann, and in a moment we expect contributor barbara mcquade to join us. you've also contacted the doj, no comment from them, but betsy is now asking the doj to look into this, but they're only doing anything because the investigators commented on this. >> the revelations that the doj went after the news media, whichly initially they defended it, but after the white house got involved, the doj is now saying they will never do that again. what's going on here is a clash of interest in our democracy which goes beyond donald trump, geoff. you and i make our living in part based on leaks and we think leaks are an important part of holding government officials accountable. doj national security advisors are more than happy to put someone in prison if they think they leaked classified information. so they will go after these cases, in fact, donald trump leaked more classified information than anyone in recent memory. it's usually the attorney general who reins in these prosec
all right, joining us now are nbc national security correspondent ken dilanian, and msnbc contributor betsy woodruff swann, and in a moment we expect contributor barbara mcquade to join us. you've also contacted the doj, no comment from them, but betsy is now asking the doj to look into this, but they're only doing anything because the investigators commented on this. >> the revelations that the doj went after the news media, whichly initially they defended it, but after the white house...
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i want to thank ken dilanian as well for his reporting this hour. thanks to all of you for joining us on this rock 'n' roll ride this hour of "hallie jackson reports." tomorrow a very big morning. we will be with you all morning long, special coverage on "msnbc reports." we'll be joined by our co-anchors, our best reporters on these beats, our analysts and experts talking through a critical moment for president biden. right now our coverage continues as we speak. >>> good tuesday morning, everybody. we have a lot going on this morning. the countdown is on. the president just arrived in geneva, switzerland, ahead of his big face-to-face with russian president vladimir putin. this hour he's set to meet with the swiss president. his focus will quickly shift to tomorrow's high-stakes summit. and this morning we're learning key new details about just how he is preparing. plus, some surprising names helping get him ready. we're going to dive into all of that ahead. we do want to start this hour with breaking news in america's response to domestic terror.
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joining us now ken dilanian and harry litman, former u.s. ation. ken, what new details are you learning because that pure insanity isn't actually a thing of the past. former president trump and his allies are still pushing this nonsense. >> good morning, stephanie. the picture painted by these newly released documents is one of a president and his supporters trying everything they could to get the justice department to launch an investigation into their bogus claims of election fraud, an investigation they could then have cited as a way to delay or stop the transfer of power to a duly elected joe biden. the good news is that it didn't work. emails and other public records show attorney general bill barr and acting a.g. jeffrey rosen wanted nothing to do with what they realized were baseless claims but it does show how close this country came to a real disaster. one of the details that stood out was how the president's chief of staff, mark meadows, shared with acting attorney general rosen a link to a youtube video na described a bonkers scena
joining us now ken dilanian and harry litman, former u.s. ation. ken, what new details are you learning because that pure insanity isn't actually a thing of the past. former president trump and his allies are still pushing this nonsense. >> good morning, stephanie. the picture painted by these newly released documents is one of a president and his supporters trying everything they could to get the justice department to launch an investigation into their bogus claims of election fraud, an...
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i want to bring in nbc's ken dilanian. he covers intelligence in national security. garrett haake on capitol hill. he was reporting that day. retired army lieutenant general russel honore, he conducted a security reviewp on the capitol complex after the january attack at the request of speaker nancy pelosi. and frank figliuzzi, former assistant director for counterintelligence at the feb. i'm tongue-tied this morning. i cannot believe this report. ken, reading failures about these failures since the attack happened, but now that we are seeing this report, what stands out to you? >> good morning, stephanie, that's the right question. there are a lot of things in this report we have heard before but a lot of new things as well, i think the except to which the capitol police profoundly failed on so many levels, as you described there. i was interested in the fact the capitol police had very granular intelligence that we at nbc news reported on about posts on social media involving plans to attack the capitol, maps of tunnels around the capitol, discussions about overwhe
i want to bring in nbc's ken dilanian. he covers intelligence in national security. garrett haake on capitol hill. he was reporting that day. retired army lieutenant general russel honore, he conducted a security reviewp on the capitol complex after the january attack at the request of speaker nancy pelosi. and frank figliuzzi, former assistant director for counterintelligence at the feb. i'm tongue-tied this morning. i cannot believe this report. ken, reading failures about these failures...
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ken dilanian is with us, ken, what's the latest on your reporting and how the white house is planninganything. >> that's right. good morning stephanie, biden administration is planning a multi-prong effort resembing global war on terror. at home hardening cyber defenses and new regulations and abroad, using economic and military intelligence power to go after the people perpetrating these attacks. one of the things the biden administration is going to press for is to regulate crypto currency exchanges so these criminals can't exchange bitcoin for other cash anonymously. all these will take time. what the biden administration can do is raise the cost to these criminal gangs and that could mean russia and that could mean using military and intelligence capabilities to go after. it is a big deal and not a step to be taken lightly. as senator king said over the weekend, for years the united states did not hit back when an attack occurred. many wants the u.s. to take a step back, if you hit us, you are going to pay a price. >> i want to share what secretary granholm, what she said. >> we n
ken dilanian is with us, ken, what's the latest on your reporting and how the white house is planninganything. >> that's right. good morning stephanie, biden administration is planning a multi-prong effort resembing global war on terror. at home hardening cyber defenses and new regulations and abroad, using economic and military intelligence power to go after the people perpetrating these attacks. one of the things the biden administration is going to press for is to regulate crypto...
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nbc's ken dilanian covers national security. ken, the feds won't say exactly how they cracked the hackers' bitcoin account. what do we know? >> no, they won't, shep. they don't want the hackers to learn their trade craft so the fbi can use this method again but the experts are calling this a bold and decisive move by the federal government, who seems to have woken up to the threat of ransomware the court documents make aware a lot of digital sloping went into this procedure they paid a ransom $4.5 billion worth of bitcoin at the time but because the price of bit conn dropped recently, that amount is worth $2.3 million it's important to understand, shep, all bitcoin transactions are recorded on a public ledger and because the fbi was investigating dark side, the fbi tracked that ransom as it was transferred to more than two dozen addresses and eventually that $6.73 bitcoin landed in one address didn't move. somehow, the feds are not saying how, the fbi in northern california obtained the private keys to that address those keys all
nbc's ken dilanian covers national security. ken, the feds won't say exactly how they cracked the hackers' bitcoin account. what do we know? >> no, they won't, shep. they don't want the hackers to learn their trade craft so the fbi can use this method again but the experts are calling this a bold and decisive move by the federal government, who seems to have woken up to the threat of ransomware the court documents make aware a lot of digital sloping went into this procedure they paid a...
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. >> ken dilanian, i anticipate you have a busy week ahead of you.ith us tonight. my next guest yesterday on msnbc called on merrick garland to clean house and raised the question we want to dig into a bit, why did we learn this news from apple? congressman raja krishna-murkey of illinois, your top reaction to this story? >> i think it's shocking, outrageous, something that you hear or expect from vladimir putin's russia or xi joining ping's china, not something you expect from the united states and the secret subpoena issued for the white house counsel's records just begs the question who else was caught up in this dragnet of secret subpoenas? which other political opponents were caught up in this target list? i think we need an investigation now more than ever. >> do you buy this assertion that barr and sessions knewing in about it? >> not completely. i have to say that they need to come before congress and testify under oath with regard to that question but just for a moment, assuming that they really did not know then it begs the question, did th
. >> ken dilanian, i anticipate you have a busy week ahead of you.ith us tonight. my next guest yesterday on msnbc called on merrick garland to clean house and raised the question we want to dig into a bit, why did we learn this news from apple? congressman raja krishna-murkey of illinois, your top reaction to this story? >> i think it's shocking, outrageous, something that you hear or expect from vladimir putin's russia or xi joining ping's china, not something you expect from the...
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. >> nbc news national security correspond enter ken dilanian has been listening to the hearing. oined by frank fragluzi, he is an msnb national security contributor. ken, let me start with you. you noted the chairman's comments about the fbi inaction on january he called it baffling. why did that jump out to you? what else have you heard? >> reporter: that was as strong as a heard a democratic senior member of congress really go right at the fbi and criticize its inaction, its intelligence failure. that stood out. what stood out is that the fbi director didn't directly respond. he did say -- he did make news in saying that none of the 500 people they have charged so far in the insurrection had been under investigation by the fbi. the point he was trying to make is, it was hard to predict. these are people that weren't on our radar. he didn't respond to the criticism in the senate investigation that we have been reporting none recent days and the criticism made by the house members that, what about all the social media posts that we have seen online? they don't believe there was a
. >> nbc news national security correspond enter ken dilanian has been listening to the hearing. oined by frank fragluzi, he is an msnb national security contributor. ken, let me start with you. you noted the chairman's comments about the fbi inaction on january he called it baffling. why did that jump out to you? what else have you heard? >> reporter: that was as strong as a heard a democratic senior member of congress really go right at the fbi and criticize its inaction, its...
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joining us is nbc security correspondent ken dilanian. >> good evening, ayman.used vpn account that had a single password, not the two-factor authentication that we need to access our nbc accounts from home. he said it was a complicated password, not a "colonial 123" type password. but he said the company did not have a ransom plan despite spending an average of $40 million a year on cybersecurity. he says his company now complies with the latest cybersecurity standards ordered last month by the transportation department. he recounted how colonial shut down its pipeline 15 minutes after it learned it had been breached because the company didn't know whether it was only the corporate i.t. systems or whether it was the pipeline operating systems that had already been compromised. then he described, u.s. heard there, making the decision to pay the ransom the next day, which he said was the hardest decision he ever had to make although he thought it was in the best interests of the american people. we should note it was a decision he made without a complete understa
joining us is nbc security correspondent ken dilanian. >> good evening, ayman.used vpn account that had a single password, not the two-factor authentication that we need to access our nbc accounts from home. he said it was a complicated password, not a "colonial 123" type password. but he said the company did not have a ransom plan despite spending an average of $40 million a year on cybersecurity. he says his company now complies with the latest cybersecurity standards ordered...
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ken dilanian reports that officials in the biden administration are, quote, hair on fire over these risingnal security threat, using agencies to conduct counteroffenses. are we talk about going after individuals tore state governments where these people live? >> first of all, to shift from treating them like a law enforcement matter, like a national security matter puts them in the intelligence community. how do you strengthen your defenses and part of that is cyber operations. some of this could be going over groups that may be engaged in this criminal activity, but i think a lot of us who've been in the national security space are skeptical that these groups could operate in russia without at least the kind of tacit permission of the russian government. the question that's being debated in this situation room in the white house is whether or not to start engaging in counterattacks. the risk of that, of course, is the cycle continues to escalate. you could try to shut down their operations, you could try to send them a message that you can get into their systems as much as they've been ge
ken dilanian reports that officials in the biden administration are, quote, hair on fire over these risingnal security threat, using agencies to conduct counteroffenses. are we talk about going after individuals tore state governments where these people live? >> first of all, to shift from treating them like a law enforcement matter, like a national security matter puts them in the intelligence community. how do you strengthen your defenses and part of that is cyber operations. some of...
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nbc's ken dilanian reports, it was acknowledged in february, a february investigative report, that angry trump supporters were talking openly in the days before the siege about bringing guns to the capitol to start a revolution. the fbi document doesn't say where the fbi's review of social media posts were conducted before or after january 6th. but if the fbi didn't know about the social media post, what exactly were they doing? if they did know, why didn't they take any action to warn anyone? the fbi has charged 40 individuals with using deadly or dangerous weapons or causing serious bodily injury to officers. the fbi has arrested around 465 people so far in question, the insurrection and we're continuing to learn more and more from their court hearings. this morning, hunter palm pled not guilty to charges including violent entry and disorderly conduct on capitol grounds. the fbi provided screen shots from a video he nook which he's seen approaching a laptop in the speaker's conference room, announcing who is good at hacking? he later put his feet up on the table saying, i think i like
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ken dilanian, thank you so much. >>> one of the next crucial steps in stopping covid is getting kids vaccinated. in new york city, sites are popping up in schools. we will go live to one in the bronx next. >>> close encounters. of the government kind. we have a preview of that new intelligence report on mysterious sightings in the sky. what can be explained and what can't be explained. >>> first, it's the end of an era with duke's basketball coach. i asked him what he is most proud of about his extraordinary career. coach, of all the achievements, the accolades on the court, no one won more games. you have taken that squad of yours to five national championships. you have sent more players to the nba than any other active college coach. what matters most to you, of all of those accomplishments? >> well, the reason i got in it was relationships, to have an impact on the young men that you have the honor to coach. the wins come as a result of having great relationships, not just with an individual player but with a group of players. having developed relationships among them. then you p
ken dilanian, thank you so much. >>> one of the next crucial steps in stopping covid is getting kids vaccinated. in new york city, sites are popping up in schools. we will go live to one in the bronx next. >>> close encounters. of the government kind. we have a preview of that new intelligence report on mysterious sightings in the sky. what can be explained and what can't be explained. >>> first, it's the end of an era with duke's basketball coach. i asked him what he...
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>> joining me now to discuss is nbc correspondent ken dilanian. i have a question for you.? walk me through it. >> that's an excellent question. i think it's one the inspector general of the justice department will hopefully get to the bottom of. he's investigating this matter. but this is a complicated issue that goes beyond the typical partisan food fight, maria teresa, because the prosecution of leaks has been going on for a long time. in fact, the obama administration prosecuted more people for leak classified information than any other administration in history. so there are career prosecutors at the justice department, career civil servants who are only too happy to try to put people in prison if they think they leaked classified information. and patiently they're willing to go after reporters' phone records and democratic members' congress' phone records to do it. normally the attorney general and the people at the top of the executive branch would rein those prosecutors in, would say hey, there are competing interests here. leaks are bad, but so is investigating --
>> joining me now to discuss is nbc correspondent ken dilanian. i have a question for you.? walk me through it. >> that's an excellent question. i think it's one the inspector general of the justice department will hopefully get to the bottom of. he's investigating this matter. but this is a complicated issue that goes beyond the typical partisan food fight, maria teresa, because the prosecution of leaks has been going on for a long time. in fact, the obama administration prosecuted...
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investigation into the former president's ex-body guard and national security and justice correspondent ken dilaniancca, tell us what this means and what you learned as it relates to the former president. >> so what we've learned is new york prosecutors are investigating whether matthew calimari, the chief operating officer at the trump organization received tax-free fringe benefits as part of his employment at the trump organization. we know this is part of their larger investigation into whether the company and its employees illegally avoided paying taxes on such perks, so according to people familiar with the investigation, we're told that in the last couple of weeks, both callima ri and his son who also works at the company were advised by prosecutors they should get their own lawyer and previously represented by a lawyer also representing other trump organization employees. while this doesn't mean that either calimai for his son will be charged with wrongdoing, it's a sign the subject is heating up. >> what does that mean, given that. what does it tell you about any kind of particular pressure
investigation into the former president's ex-body guard and national security and justice correspondent ken dilaniancca, tell us what this means and what you learned as it relates to the former president. >> so what we've learned is new york prosecutors are investigating whether matthew calimari, the chief operating officer at the trump organization received tax-free fringe benefits as part of his employment at the trump organization. we know this is part of their larger investigation...
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let's bring in nbc news correspondent covering national security and intelligence, ken dilanian. joe, you know, as we bring ken in, i think what's frustrating when you look at these pieces of information that's coming forward, and it's great that we're learning more, this is a positive. there is -- i mean, you and i even remember ourselves seeing and reporting on and hearing about this buildup to january 6th. there was a big plan for that day and it appeared the president and his people were even in a tent, watching it unfold with glee. >> right. it's not like we're never going to be able to discover anything, because there's not going to be a bipartisan, bicameral commission. so i think we need to look at the information we have right now and build on it. understanding that the fbi's investigating, the senate will continue to investigate. the house will continue to investigate. these investigations will go on, law enforcement will go on. so i think it's important for us. ken, thanks so much for being with us this morning. we so greatly appreciate it. a couple of things stuck out
let's bring in nbc news correspondent covering national security and intelligence, ken dilanian. joe, you know, as we bring ken in, i think what's frustrating when you look at these pieces of information that's coming forward, and it's great that we're learning more, this is a positive. there is -- i mean, you and i even remember ourselves seeing and reporting on and hearing about this buildup to january 6th. there was a big plan for that day and it appeared the president and his people were...