again, this is reporting we're getting from ken dilanian. but if this is the scenario that played out, does this make sense to you? is this the kind of thing you see somebody with a gun and they must've fire in the direction? there is no indication that anyone was hit. we have nothing like that. we do know the person is in custody. and law enforcement has the gun. >> you're going to engage someone when there is an imminent threat. it means a threat of your own life, your protectee's life, or something else's life. for the secret service to engage that means there was a threat in that moment. the mere possession is not enough that person make a move and try to engage? we are talking about an open space and it's a bit of a dij@ vu, isn't it? similar to the rally. line of sight issues. these are all difficult areas to secure and we are seeing a similar set up here, being outdoors, trying to secure someone. line of sight issues. at this point, when we are hearing the gunshots and the exterior, it is interesting because before we have the confirm

let's bring in justice and intelligence correspondent ken dilanian, former u.s. attorney barbara mcquaid, and christy greenberg. so ken, lay out for us what we expect to happen today. >> reporter: good morning. this is a scheduling hearing. and the two sides are going to present their proposals for how to move forward in this case. to answer the question you raised in the opening, there's no chance this case can go to trial before the november election because whatever the judge decides in terms of what she views in bounds, what are official acts and what were presidential acts, that can be appealed pretrial all the way to the supreme court. there's no way that process plays out before the election. but in terms of scheduing, it's important because it may dictate how much of the evidence, how many hearings we'll have on the evidence in the case before the election, and even after the election, if trump wins, because the justice department will continue with this prosecution until the moment he takes office, if he wins. the first dispute is about what issues the co

with us now, nbc news justice and intelligence correspondent ken dilanian, katie fein, the katie fein show. and maya wiley, former assistant district attorney. ken, what has been happening in that courtroom over to? >> reporter: well, jose, first, i'll tell you about the atmosphere and tone which is important then i'll tell you about the substance. in terms of tone, this hearing could not be more different than the ones we've been covering for a year down in florida in that now dismissed case on classified documents from judge cannon. judge chutkan has no patience on any argument from donald trump's lawyers that he's special because he was a president. and running for president. and judge chutkan responded i'm not talking about a presidential election. i'm talking about a four-count criminal indictment. she said what you're trying to do is prevent evidence from being presented because it might be impinge on trump's election argument. it goes where we go from here in this case and what evidence will be put before the election, that's one of the most consequential things on what can be

justice intelligent corresponding ken dilanian joins me now.hat are you hearing with regards to the suspect who has been identified, ryan wesley routh. any political affiliations, known associations or affiliations? >> not that specific but we are starting to get a greater picture of his life and interests. we know he had a long history in north carolina and we are seeing serious criminal charges including possession of a weapon of mass destruction in 2002 and some other felonies. at some point he lived in hawaii or said he lived in hawaii and he was in ukraine. there is a video we have authenticated of him doing an interview saying he went to ukraine to try to fight for the ukrainians against the russians, but he's 58 with no military experience so he was turned down so he was trying to recruit people to the cause of the ukrainians. very passionate and articulate but when you look through his twitter accounts, you see strange things like a tweet urging north korean dictator kim jong un to come to hawaii. barry nonsensical and strange things, r

nbc justice and reporter and correspondent ken dilanian is here. give me a sense of what you know and what you can confirm of the incident that took place a little over two hours ago on the trump international golf course. >> reporter: good afternoon, alex. multiple law enforcement officials are telling nbc news l that the secret service fired shots at a man with a gun pointing in the direction of the golf course. this person was outside the boundaries of the golf course. law enforcement has now recovered an assault style, ar -style rifle. this man is in custody. no one has yet told us they have confirmed that this person was intending to harm donald trump. obviously, the secret service received the threat, fired shots. it is unclear if this person was hit but he is alive and in custody, we are told. again, with an ar -style fought rifle outside of that golf ou course. it is unclear if he was even in a position, if he was targeting trump, to successfully take a shot at mr. trump. the secret service received a threat, fired shots at this individual

" the los angeles times had to disown ken dilanian after he was outed as a cia collaborator.ted states government has interfered in nearly every country's elections. the cia used to buy off entire political parties in italy and japan, literally heading out suitcases of cash the politicians. and has staged violent coups and iran, guatemala, vietnam, indonesia, countless countries, and pumped out america propaganda throughout europe and asia for decades. and we are now in an all hands on deck situation because of the few russian websites. >> the justice department is seizing 32 internet domains that the russian government and the russian sponsored actors have used to engage in a covert campaign to interfere and influence the outcome of our country's elections. this task force has been marshaling the full resources of the justice department to investigate and prosecute threats targeting election workers, officials and volunteers. >> jesse: what exactly is the biden harris administration accusing russia of? the machine tells the times, the kremlin's propaganda apparatus has throw

ken dilanian has been tracking all of this. ken, some pretty dramatic revelations in this report, what else did we learn? >> reporter: kate, perhaps the most striking finding is no one was really in charge of security of the butler event. agents and officials interviewed pointed fingers, deflected blame and didn't acknowledge how badly they mishandled this. big picture the secret service didn't communicate to local law enforcement they needed to secure that roof that the sniper used to fire. because of a series of astonishing communication failures the secret service agents protecting trump didn't learn key information about the threat as local police discovered it. it said the secret service was notified about an individual on the roof, at least one agent was, two minutes before the shooter opened fire, but that information was not -- was not relayed to the team protecting trump. the secret service had counterdrone technology that might have spotted him flying the drone. a cascade of failures. >> illuminating report there. ken,

let's bring in justice and intelligence correspondent ken dilanian. ken, federal agencies, they're saying that this stolen information was sent, as i said, to the biden campaign by email. what happened next? >> kate, the biden/harris campaign said that they were unaware that this material was sent until the fbi contacted them. and three law enforcement officials we talked to supported that story and said they had no evidence that anyone from the biden/harris campaign even opened these emails. they may have thought they were spear phishing attempts. we all get these emails all the time we don't recognize. it's unwise to open them. they did not. the fbi also says the iranian hackers continue to try to peddle the information to news organizations. so far, no news organization that we know of has published any of it. >> the state department spoke earlier about the iranian hacks. let's listen to a part of that. >> concerning set of behaviors by iran, which is why we have committed to exposing those actions publicly. >> ken, what are your sources saying abou

joining us now is nbc's ken ken, dilanian. ken, what more have we learned? >> jose this is being described by our sources as a whole of government action designed to target russian propaganda and disinformation aimed at interfering in the 2024 it election. it is said to include sanctions by the treasury department, law enforcement action by the justice department, and one of the focuses on rt, formerly known as russia today, that network of russian government funded english language websites and television platforms that was flagged all the way back in 2017 by the u.s. intelligence community as a vehicle for russian disinformation and election interference. at that time, the justice department required rt to register as a foreign agent. it remains to be seen what actions the u.s. will take against rt today, but this does appear to represent an escalation in the efforts to try to purge the system of russian propaganda and disinformation. what is interesting is that, look, u.s. has been saying all along, not only russia but iran and china, but particularly rus

joining us now, nbc news justice and intelligence correspondent, ken dilanian. arland talked about the importance of insulating the doj in partisan influence. garland first joined the department as a young prosecutor four decades ago. he said that tradition is under threat as never before. the biggest threat comes explicitly from the republican candidate for president who suggested if he's elected he will use the doj to go after his enemies. donald trump spent years that the investigations were a partisan effort by democrats to frame him. take a listen to what else garland said. >> our norms are a promise that we will fiercely protect the independence of this department from political interference in our criminal investigations. our norms are a promise that we will not allow this department to be used as a political weapon. and our norms are a promise that we will not allow this nation to become a country where law enforcement is treated as an apparatus of politics. >> he was speaking to u.s. attorneys there from around the country. he got a big round of applause

nbc news justice and intelligence correspondent ken dilanian joins me now. spoke with reporters for about an hour earlier today. what else did we learn about the investigation into that butler, pennsylvania, shooting? >> reporter: this was a remarkable news conference, kate, acting director ronald rowe was frank and candid about what he said were profound failures by the secret service of planning and execution. principally, he said that the secret service never explained to local law enforcement that they needed to secure that rooftop from which the sniper fired, and he said the failures were bad enough that there would be disciplinary action against individual secret service agents, although he couldn't talk about that. take a listen to what else he said. >> issues were encountered the day of the visit with respect to line of sight concerns, but they were not escalated to supervisors. while some members of the advance team were very diligent, there was complacency on the part of others that led to a breach of security protocols. >> reporter: and again, he c

nbc's ken dilanian is reporting from d.c., so democrats and republicans have long been pushing completelyiolent crime decrease bid 3% but murder came down 12%, the largest single year decline in recorded history on murder. the big picture is that what this shows is violent crime spiked during the pandemic. murder dramatically increased in 2020. it's settling down to prepandemic levels across the board. you'll hear donald trump and others say, well, big cities are left off this fbi data. that's not true. it was true in 2021 when they changed the way they collected the data. this data set covers 94% of the u.s. population. there are different ways of measuring crime. there's a justice department victims survey to capture crime that wasn't reported to police. that shows different numbers. overall it agrees that violent crime is about the same level it was in 2019 before the pandemic, and that survey doesn't measure murder. murder, the drop is remarkable, and every murder is counted in the united states. there are no hidden murders. it's really remarkable good news and it's distressing that p

joining us now, nbc's justice and intelligence correspondent ken dilanian. nbc's julie tsirkin who's on capitol hill, garrett haake is in washington, and robert mcdonald, a retired supervisory special agent for the u.s. secret service joins us as well. ken, i want to start with you. what did this report find? >> perhaps the most striking finding is nobody was in charge of security for the butler event the agents and officials pointed fingers, deflected blame and didn't acknowledge how badly they mishandled this. the secret service said some of those people would be. and then because of a series of astonishing communication failures, the secret service agents protecting mr. trump did not learn key information about the threat as local police discovered it. the report confirmed that local police and the secret service were not in consistent radio communication. it said the secret service was not notified about an individual on the roof of the building. police learned that two minutes before the shooter opened fire. they were notified, but that information was n

joining us now, nbc news justice and intelligence correspondent, ken dilanian. what was it like in there, ken? >> reporter: that exchange captured the tone of the day, katy, and it was such an incredible contrast to all the hearings i have been covering in florida with judge aileen cannon who deferred to the idea that donald trump was different and special because he was running as president. judge chutkan was having none of that. she appeared to adopt the view of how to proceed. she said she intends to enter a scheduling order as soon as today. of course the prosecution wants to immediately get to the issue of immunity. they want each side to craft detailed briefs on the question of what evidence should come in and what should be excluded, and that could include new evidence that the public has never seen, including grand jury testimony, and fbi 302 notes, and other things before the election, that will be in the public records. that's interesting. there may be a hearing on this if she adopts that schedule. trump's lawyers took a posture of wanting to delay, and

that.you for with me now is nbc's ken dilanian and tommy winter. tom, i know you have information from palm beachu county. you've been on the phone, what's the latest? >> sure, according to dave arenberg, this case is going federal. the state isn't going to bring the prosecution. the reason why the state would do that, this happened where we see high-profile cases that allows themas to keep the suspe in custody until charges can be filed. that's not c going to apply her. arenberg said it's going to go specific right away. it's important to know, the interview hekn did with the colleagues in the last hour, you don't need to fire a round to be charged with attempted assassination. it's interesting to see whether federal prosecutors believe they have the evidence to bring that forward. he says this individual ryan wesley routh identified by three credible senior law enforcement officials as the apparent suspect here, apparently, he was lying in wait for trump. he wasin waiting for the former president to get to that place in the golf course. and t as

ken dilanian is with us this morning. good morning.k down what this report says. >> good morning, jose. this report is entitled "crime in the nation." it decreased 3% last year, korgs the fbi. murder and manslaughter came down an estimated 11.6%. that's the biggest drop in the last 20 years. aggravated assault down 2.8%. here's what's also important to know about this. there's been a lot of criticism of fbi crime data. this covered 94% of the population. while it's true not all crimes are reported, all murders are counted. this is the second year in a row the fbi has documented a decline in violent crime. it shows after a big spike during the pandemic, violent crime is back down to around 2019 levels. which was historic lows when you compare to the 1990s. and this contradicts what donald trump have been saying. they have been saying that violent crime is increasing dramatically. it's not what the numbers show. i was in detroit recently and spent time with the detroit police. that is historically a dangerous city. they have made incredi

nbc news justice and intelligence correspondent ken dilanian joins us this morning. do we know? >> reporter: that's right, jose. the fbi has said this was an iranian-backed effort, a hack and leak operation where they use the spear fishing technique to gain access to certain email addresses and steal documents from the trump campaign and then certain news organizations have said they were offered those documents through an online persona named robert. and what we're learning is that the fbi investigation is focusing on that online persona and who was involved in this specifically and are preparing to file criminal charges. it stands to reason the people being charged in this case are overseas and out of the reach of the u.s. justice department. the doj in recent years made a habit of doing these kinds of name and shame cases when a nation state is interfering in our politics. that's what it looks like is going to happen here. >> so it would seem to point to the iranian regime? >> reporter: yeah, that's what the fbi already said, this was an operation, this attempt to

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nbc's ken dilanian is following this for us. what can you tell us happened in court today? >> this was a fairly routine hearing, chris. ryan ruth was only in the courtroom about five minutes. he pleaded not guilty to all the charges after telling the judge he understood them when they were read to him. ruth was shackled and wore a tan prison jump suit and glasses. at one point he motioned with cuffed hands that he wanted something to write on, and he appeared to nod to the courtroom sketch artist. the gun charges that have been filed, he was charged with attempting to assassinate a former president, a charge that carries a life term in prison. his lawyers opted to not have the full indictment read in court. ruth's case has been randomly assigned to judge aileen cannon, who dismissed the special documents case earlier this year. the justice department is appealing her ruling. the magistrate judge under her presided over this hearing, not judge cannon. chris. >> ken dilanian, thank you. >>> coming up in 90 seconds, the countdown to the show down, how two mid westerns, miles a

let's get more now from nbc's jesse kirsch joining us from west palm beach, ken dilanian is standing by for us in washington, and also with us, a former secret service agent. jesse, what else are we learning about the security that day? >> yeah, so, ana, according to authorities, the latest information we have is that the suspect was spending about $12 hours camped outside of this golf course, based on cell phone data that has been reviewed, running up to his incident in which secret service agents saw a gun barrel pointing through the tree line, and shot at the suspect. that led to this arrest, which happened as you mentioned around an hour after this incident unfolded, based on our timing. and we spoke with the sheriff in the county where this arrest was made yesterday, or this apprehension was made, and they told us 15 minutes after the be on the lookout went out, that's when the suspect was spotted by his deputies who was part of the takedown two minutes later. this is video we have from that deputy's body camera released by authorities. questions remain about the security presen

. >> nbc's ken dilanian is covering this story for us. lse he had to say, but also, ken, why now? >> well, it's been building for some time, chris. garland talked about the tradition of inslating the doj from partisan influence which really began after watergate when he joined the department as a young prosecutor four seconds ago. he said that tradition is under threat as never before. he didn't say this part explicitly, but we all know the biggest threat comes from the republican candidate for president, who is suggesting that if he's elected, he will use the doj to go after his enemies. donald trump also has spent years falsely suggesting that the investigations into him were a partisan effort by democrats to frame him. garland got a huge round of applause when he said, and i'm quoting now, "the public servants of the department of justice do not bend to politics, and they will not break under pressure." and as part -- in part as a result of these partisan attacks, polls show public confidence in the fbi and doj have plummeted. garland s

joining us now, ken dilanian. what was his message today? >> twofold.l prosecutors who are under constant assault and under physical threat, really, amid all the partisan attacks on the justice department. he wanted to send the message that the justice department will not bow to partisan pressure. this is coming in a context he didn't mention, but where donald trump, the republican nominee for president of the united states, has been saying and his allies have been saying he will use the justice department to go after his enemies. garland is saying, that cannot happen, it will not happen. >> ken dilanian, thank you very much. >>> that wraps up the hour for me. i'm jose diaz-balart. you can reach me on social media. thank you for the privilege of your time. andrea mitchell picks up with more news right now. >>> right now on "andrea mitchell reports," the post-debate battleground blitz begins. vice president harris trying to translate a widely praised performance io

joining us now ken dilanian.shot or raped while doing t what do the fbi crime numbers say with regards to what's happening in this country and what do they mean for donald trump's 43% numbers? >> that's just flatly wrong what donald trump said. the latest numbers from the fbi which come from cities, by the way, the fbi doesn't make these numbers up, show that violent crime overall declined by a rate of 3% in 2023 and that murder declined 11.6%, that's the largest single year drop on record. now, of course, the context here, katy is this is coming after a huge spike in violent crime during the pandemic. what is happening is it's settling back to pre-pandemic levels, which were historically low. but what you will hear donald trump say is, well, a lot of the big cities aren't reporting to the fbi anymore. that's not true. it was true in 2021 when they changed how they collect crime data but this latest data covers 94% of the population, every city with a population of a million or more reported 12 months of data, th

ken dilanian has more. >> reporter: dawn alan's son benjamin grew up watching her campaign for democratsbout joe biden was probably greater than any other president that has ever run before. >> reporter: then two years into the biden administration, dawn's son went to bed and never woke up. >> we were able to establish that he got a counterfeit pill that was crossed with illicit fentanyl and ben was one of four young people in lake county where we live who died of illicit fentanyl. >> reporter: she became frustrated by what she feels is inaction by the biden administration on the open identify crisis. and she grew increasingly attracted to donald trump's tough talk. >> it is now time for america to wage war on the cartels. >> reporter: dawn is part of a growing number of opioid affected families who have embraced trump, some rallying with trump officials. >> please welcome american mom and funder. >> reporter: republicans highlighted the crisis in primetime at their convention, featuring a mom whose son died from fentanyl poisoning. >> this fight is for your children. >> reporter: by con

nbc's ken dilanian is following the story for us. so what did the ag say they did?ndictment was long expected. he says that they were involved in a long standing hacking campaign against various former american officials and journalists that culminated when they stole material from the trump campaign, and offered it very recently to journalists and members of the biden/harris campaign. the attorney said the intelligence community concluded that none of the members replied to those e-mails, and look, these people are in iran, iranian revolutionary guard core hackers, outside the reach of u.s. justice, charged with wire fraud and support for terrorism. the idea here, the attorney general said, was to get the message out to the american people in as much detail as possible, and they're doing this in a variety of ways, this indictment, the one involving rt, regular intelligence briefings to journalists about foreign interference in the election, this is in contrast to what happened in 2016, when the russians hacked the democrats, released all of these e-mails, the media

ken dilanian and lisa rubin are outside the courthouse.re the sides arguing when it comes to mr. trump's january 6th conversation with then vice president mike pence? >> reporter: on that score -- this was a scheduling hearing. we will see -- we think we will see a ruling -- a scheduling order from judge chutkan later today. on the question you just asked about vice president pence, what the special counsel is arguing is that that conduct, donald trump's pressure on vice president pence to delay the certification, that is properly included in this indictment despite the supreme court decision on presidential immunity, because donald trump wasn't acting as the president when he did that. he was acting as a candidate. mike pence was acting as the president of the senate in a ceremonial role. that's hotly disputed. that's one of the things they litigate before judge chutkan. what was really in dispute today was the scheduling and the order of things. special counsel wants to deal with the immunity question first and foremost. he wants to file

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joining us is nbc news justice and intelligence correspondent ken dilanian, bobby chick own, a formeret service special agent and nbc's jessie kirsch also live in florida. let's start there with josÉ and jesse. >> thank you very much, ana. jesse, right here we are just feet from the entrance of trump international golf course where this incident occurred yesterday. what do we know as of right now about the person who was apprehended? >> reporter: and for context, josÉ, this is the entrance down that way to our left is where we saw much of the police activity last night. what i can tell you and you can see it right here, the shrubs are very high and very thick. authorities told us someone was able to get through the shrubbery and be in a position where a gun barrel was sticking out toward the golf course. according to authorities at a press conference yesterday the way that the secret service operates when the former president plays golf and we know he does that often, is that there will be an agent that goes a hole ahead of him and scouts out, surveys the area ahead of him. during tha

. >> i want to bring in nbc's justice and intelligence correspondent, ken dilanian.o with us former federal prosecutor and msnbc legal analyst paul butler. paul, as you are building a case against this guy does his pass play into it in any significant way, what we just heard about him? >> absolutely, especially the fact that this person is a convicted felon, which means that it is illegal for him to possess a firearm. so one key part of the investigation will be how did he get this gun, did someone give it to him. that also raises the question whether there was a conspiracy. so this case is just beginning. chris, the charges that were filed today are just holding charges. they're designed to keep the suspect locked up as the investigation continues. they're serious charges, possession of a firearm by a convicted felon carries a sentence of up to 15 years, but i suspect even more serious federal charges are forthcoming. >> we saw the county d.a. just a second ago in the second piece of sound, and he had said yesterday -- i interviewed him and he said, look, he was rea

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nbc's ken dilanian reporting from washington, d.c. also joining us, jim cavanaugh, retired atf special agent in charge, former hostage negotiator for atf and an msnbc contributor. so ken, what else are we learning from this report? >> you know, jose, it's important to say the secret service director has already acknowledged some of these failures and he has said that agents will face disciplinary action. but this report paints a much more disturbing picture than he was willing to do the other day. it says that agents and officials who were interviewed pointed fingers, couldn't say who was in charge of advance planning, and didn't acknowledge how badly they mishandled this. big picture of the report says the secret service didn't communicate to local law enforcement that they needed to secure that roof that the sniper used to fire and that the secret service knew it was unsecured when trump took the stage. and then because of a series of astonishing communication failures the secret service agents protecting trump did not learn key info

here's ken dilanian. >> reporter: tonight, the justice department charging three men it calls iranian government hackers with a plot to stoke discord and erode confidence ahead of the u.s. election. the 37-page indictment describing a wide-ranging hacking campaign alleging the men targeted trump campaign officials' email, stealing internal documents including debate prep and shopping them to the news media and the biden/harris campaign. >> the defendants' own words make clear that they were attempting to undermine former president trump's campaign in advance of the 2024 u.s. presidential election. >> reporter: the alleged hackers facing terrorism, fraud, and identity theft charges. they work for iran's revolutionary guard corps according to the indictment. all three live in iran likely outside the reach of u.s. law enforcement. the iranian government has denied involvement. u.s. officials are battling propaganda and disinformation efforts, not just out of iran, but also russia and china. microsoft saying this staged video of men beating up a woman in a trump shirt was cooked up by a r

. >> ken dilanian, thank you very much. >>> that wraps up the hour for me. i'm jose diaz-balart. you can reach me on social media. thank you for the privilege of your time. andrea mitchell picks up with more news right now. >>> right now on "andrea mitchell reports," the post-debate battleground blitz begins. vice president harris trying to translate a widely praised performance into support from voters in the newly opened swing state of north carolina. donald trump ignores remaining -- remains resilient as the former president kicks off his swing state tour in arizona. >>> the taylor swift affect. more than 300,000 people click on the vote.gov website after her endorsement last night. last night swift was at the vmas. >> if you are over 18, register to vote for something else that's very important. [ cheers and applause ] i love you all so, so much. >>> in washington, house speaker johnson hitting a roadblock in passing a bill because of bipartisan opposition to a trump-backed measure in the deal. joining me at this hour, the former hillary clinton debate coach who kamala harris

. >> we heard from dave and ken dilanian. he said he was not cooperative. he had a vest. the former president of the united states. these guys go in with some sort of understanding he may not come out of that thing alive. he's sir he has surrendered. what do you make of these things. >> all these active shooters have a vision of what it's going to be like. some of them see them, he may have seen himself going down in a blaze of glory. it's going to be a shoot out and he's going to go down. this interrupted everything that he thought it was going to be like. so he jumps in his car and flees. so all these thoughts are going through his head. he's thinking, they don't know who i am. i may be able to come back and do this again and live for another experience. he's driving. he doesn't expect the police to have a photograph of his license plate. now it's on the police term, where maybe the rifle was in the back of the car. or all these other things that he wasn't prepared for. a traffic stop on 95, and you interrupted his pattern of violence. he was thinking all kinds of thing

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nbc news justice and intelligence correspondent ken dilanian has been all over this reporting. en trying to use this reporting to suggest that the harris campaign is spying on him. how is their campaign responding? >> well, they say that's false, and not only that, they say they were not even aware that these iranian hackers tried to peddle stolen trump information and send to them via e-mail. apparently they didn't open the e-mail, and three law enforcement officials support that story, and say there's no evidence that the individuals in the biden/harris campaign who were sent that material did anything with it. it's also the case that the iranian hackers are still tried to peddle this to news organizations and no news organization that we know of has published any of it. this goes back to 2016 and what the russians did with the democrats, but it's and media organizations are less willing to play along. >> we're learning about a new secret service tweet by elon musk. >> they said they're looking into this. musk says it was a joke. it was a bad joke, if so, where he said no one

nbc news justice and intelligence correspondent ken dilanian is outside the courthouse in washington, the judge? >> reporter: this was a scheduling hearing, so the two sides argue td about how they want to move forward with this case in light of that historic supreme court decision that presidents are immuned from prosecution for their official acts. judge chutkan ran this hearing as brisk, tidy, she chastised donald trump's lawyers for right to suggest because he's running for president he needed special consideration. at one point she said i'm not considering the presidential election i'm talking about a four-count criminal indictment, the two sides disagree about how to proceed. judge chutkan suggested that she was leaning towards the prosecution's view that there would be briefings filed rather soon on the question of what conduct in this indictment can be admitted under the immunity deal. they'll argue about that. she'd make a ruling that could be appealed. she'll rule on the scheduling order by the end of today. >> putting this in context, two months out from this year's electio

joining us now, nbc news justice and intelligence correspondent ken dilanian. so, who against, ken?tried to peddle this stolen information from the trump campaign to various news organizations. it seems likely those people are overseas, so they will be outside the reach of american justice. but the doj has a habit of making name and shame cases to send a message to foreign adversaries that this kind of behavior at least will be outed. we all remember the hack and dump campaign in 2016, where the russians stole all those democratic emails and put them out in the public domain. that appears to be the playbook the iranians were following here. so far they haven't released anything. we haven't seen any of the information they stole from the trump campaign. but nonetheless is doj is closing in on charging individuals. >> do you have a sense of timing on this? >> in the few days. we're looking at next week action i believe. >> the trump campaign had been saying that iran was behind this, or that they were hacked. do we have any more details about whatwere able to get into? >> yeah. and th

. >> ken dilanian joins me now, on a very busy day, what else do we know about this breaking news? kate, this is really a broad effort by the biden administration to counter russian efforts to manipulate american public opinion, there are indictments of two r the employeess that involving soliciting web influencers and youtube proliferators to spread this russian propaganda message to the american public, that i have millions and millions of viewers and the message got out there, they're also seizing 32 internet domains they said they used to perpetrate. the rt began with a mocking statement. talking about 2016. attorney general garland said, that must have been funnier in the original russian but this is no laughing matter, to destabilize american public opinion and the justice dep the treasure did department, saying they're fighting back hard against it. >> all right, ken, thank you. >>> still ahead, we're staying on top of the breaking news out of georgia, the deadly school shooting at a high school there, we'll have an update in just a few moments. you're watching "nbc news ily

about this individual, they traveled to ukraine in 2022 we're told and some of that reporting from ken dilanian, his social media posts make it abundantly clear that he is definitely pro-ukraine and went over there to try to drum up support for americans to go to ukraine and help ukraine fight back against russia when they invade that had country unprovoked. so that's what we know. now, we say this and people have kind of criticized us online for saying there is still no motive. we can put all that together and think of possible motives, but until we have something a little bit more concrete from either his own statements or evidence that has been found by authorities, that's the reason why we're not sharing that motive at this point. remember, this investigation is very much ongoing. he is going to appear in court, i just checked the court system here while we were talking, so far the charges have not been unsealed bus he is in court right now with a public defender. so we should be able to get the specific statutes that he's charged with shortly, but even though he's charged today this invest

let's get more on this from nbc news news and just intelligence correspondent ken dilanian.he's speaking to a gathering of the top in the country, decided this is the best forum to address the ongoing crisis with the justice department. after watergate, when garland first joined the department as a young prosecutor four decades ago. he's expected to say this tradition is under threat as never before. he won't say this explicitly, but obviously, the biggest threat comes from the republican candidate for president who has suggested if elected he will juice the doj to go after his enemies. donald trump has spent years falsely suggesting the investigations into him were by democrats to frame him. in part of the polls showing public confidence in the fbi have plummeted and agents are physically being targeted with threats. and garland saying the doj is coming under conspiracy theorists and signalling them out and threats of violence. a lot of people had wished that garland did this prior, but he's doing this publicly and quite forcefully. >> and i want to announce an election cha

news capitol hill correspondent ryan nobles and nbc news justice and intelligence correspondent ken dilanianys? there are so many questions. it's a scathing report. >> reporter: that's right, andrea. i think that what we heard today, mh of the content, the information specifically was not all that new. we have now seen the interim report released by the senate committee investigating this yesterday. we have had multiple public hearings from some of the law enforcement agencies that have been involved in this investigation. what was so particularly poignant today was the fact we heard directly from local law enforcement officers on the front lines that day. they talked about this lack of or breakdown in communication between the operation that they were running and the operation that the secret service was running. that's perhaps where the most criticism has come from the secret service in the wake of this assassination attempt, that there was not a direct line of communication between the multiple agencies that were involved in the protection of the former president and that no one appeared

let's bring in justice and intelligence correspondent ken dilanian and nbc news chief international correspondent keir simmons. good morning to you both. ken, i'll start with you. lay out, if you can, what doj says happened here and how exactly it worked. how this information got from rt, a russian state media organization, into the hands and onto the channels of these conservative influencers here in the u.s. >> good morning, willie. good morning, everyone. yeah, it's a remarkable scheme. $10 million is how much the justice department says was funneled into this one tennessee company that's been identified as tenant media. these guys were making a lot of money. when i asked on a doj background call, what was the impact here? how many americans did this propaganda reach? they said, look, it's hard to gauge, but, like, this company in a short time amassed 16 million views for its videos on youtube. it had an effect. some experts are saying they only need one or two videos to go viral to have a real impact on american politics. so what's very clear from the indictment, despite, as you said, people

." >> let's bring in nbc news justice and intelligence correspondent ken dilanian. each county, florida, dave aronberg. chief white house correspondent for "the new york times," peter baker is with us, as well. ken, i'll start with you. what more do we know about the suspect, his background, criminal history, political affiliations? >> 58-year-old wesley routh is his name. things are coming into focus. we don't have a full picture yet, but we're seeing an extensive criminal history in north carolina where he used to live, including what looks like felony convictions. one charge of possessing a weapon of mass destruction back in 2002. unclear exactly what that was. it is also unclear, therefore, how he was able to obtain what the police said was an ak-47 style rifle with felony convictions. it also appears at some point, he moved to hawaii, or on his linkedin profile said he was living in hawaii. he became interested in the ukraine war and recruiting soldiers to fight in the ukraine war. there is evidence he tried to fight in the ukraine war. there's also a video onli

ken dilanian, reporting for the justice department, prepared to file charges. >> thanks for the quickkeep us posted as we learn more. >>> up next, donald trump doubling down on his baseless conspiracy theory that haitian migrants in the city of springfield, ohio, are eating dogs and cats. >> they're taking the geese, and even walking off with their pets. my dog has been taken. >> is we'll have an nbc news fact check, plus the larger political questions about why the ex-president is platforming this. ♪♪ citi's industry leading global payments solutions help their clients move money around the world seamlessly in over 180 countries... and help a partner like the world food programme as they provide more than food to people in need. together, citi and the world food programme empower families across the globe. ♪ [suspenseful music] trains. [whoosh] ♪ trains that use the power of dell ai and intel. clearing the way, [rumble] [whoosh] so you arrive exactly where you belong. when my doctor gave me breztri for my copd things changed for me. breztri gave me better breathing, symptom improveme

dilanian. frank is former assistant director of counter intelligence for the fbi and an msnbc national security analyst. it's good to see all of you. ken, what is the latest on the suspect and the investigation right now? >> chris, in addition to the gun charges you mentioned, more charges are possible including assaulting a federal agent based on the suspect pointing a gun in the direction of the secret service and even the attempted assassination of a protected person. and these charges are coming as we're learning more information about routh. he appears to have lived recently in hawaii where his linkedin profile said he ran a shed-building company. he spent many years in north carolina where public records show he has a long history of run-ins with the law including gun charges and possession of weapons of mass destruction in 2002. not sure what that was about. routh has an extensive social media history. he said that he supported donald trump in 2016 but became disillusioned later calling trump a buffoon and writing in 2020, i will be glad when you are gone. he became very passionate about backing ukraine in its war with russia an