if ken dornstein can go talk to him... >> dornstein: right. >> i guess the next question is, what kind of cooperation can the u.s. government or the scots get in getting access to abu agela? >> dornstein: right, right. >> i mean, this isn't easy, because it's a foreign government in a failed state that's a basketcase at this stage. >> it's not going to be an easy ride. >> dornstein: right. you and i can't do what we did a few years ago in today's libya, can we? >> uh-uh. you know the bombings and political unrest and all of this terrorism that's happening, and, you know, the power vacuum, all of these militias, the carjackings. you know, there's an ongoing war now in libya. >> libya has descended into is worst violence since the uprising that ousted moammar qaddafi three years ago. dozens of civilians are caught in the crossfire between libyan special forces and islamist militants. >> the country is in chaos. u.s. diplomats are gone from the embassy and islamic militants are there celebrating. >> plunging into the pool at a u.s. embassy in tripoli. the acrobatics a celebration... >> do

oh, bless you, thank you. >> dornstein: but i felt the situation was just unusual enough to justify it. >> oh, khaled, hi. this is my friend ken>> nice to meet you. >> dornstein: megrahi's son khaled came to greet us. >> how's basset today? >> that would be great. >> the family was very sensitized by then to the media. and the reason they let me in, i mean, they knew that megrahi actually wanted to see me. >> only me, okay. >> but i couldn't get you past the entrance hall of the house. i was taken straight in to the room where basset was lying in bed, and he was really drifting in and out of consciousness, but he smiled when he saw me come in and sort of held out a feeble hand to welcome me, as it were. and there were tears on both sides, actually. we both knew it was our last meeting. >> dornstein: okay if i stand? i'll just stand. so you had gone in and had your meeting, and i was thinking, "what am i going to do?" >> dornstein: and i was shown by the 11-year-old to the bathroom, knowing that to the left was megrahi's room. so i was ushered into the bathroom. uh, what do i do? >> what did you do? >> dornstein: and i'm washin

so i connected with a human rights worker who'd been monitoring the trials in libya. >> hi ken. >> dornstein: hey, how are you? >> we can attempt cameras, but i'm not sure it's gonna last. >> dornstein: i told her who i was looking for. at first, she couldn't find abu agela's name on the list, but then... >> wait, wait, wait. i have a name. it's just written slightly differently. >> dornstein: what does it look like to you? >> i think it's defendant number 28 in this case. so his first name is abu a'ujilah. that would be his first name. and, to my understanding, the biggest case against him seems to be bomb making in relation to the 2011 conflict. charges of setting up bombs in vehicles. >> dornstein: wow. well, that sounds like him. >> yeah. i would say that's for sure the same person. >> dornstein: the main trial of these guys, there's 36, 37 of them, and they're there for what is more or less a show trial. >> right. >> dornstein: that's abdullah senussi. but if you look behind abdullah senussi... >> there's a dark-skinned man. >> dornstein: there's a dark-skinned man. you pull all the ima

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dornstein. while he was convicted including his brother, ken, others were involved, needed to be found includingual bomb-maker. take a listen. >> i wanted to say to him there were real people on the other side of that act and that you had impacted not only my life, people in my family and all other families affected on that, there were consequences to what you had done. now i wanted him to live with those consequences. reporter: after years of digging including dangerous trips to libya and recently portrayed on recent documentary on pbs he might have the goods. they knew there was a bomb-maker, they didn't know exactly who he was, what he looked like, where he was, dornstein he think it is a libyan explosives experts livin. they want to interrogate him as qadaffi's former spy chief. once again, dornstein. >> airing film might be occasion for them to act. i was thrilled they actually had acted. i'm also aware it is a first step. there is a decision now. reporter: scottish officials tell us that they are appreciative of dornstein's work, they are aware of it but won't actually acknowledge it promp